Thanks John, that was very kind of you.
And while this was not exactly what I had in mind,
you are certainly on the mark: it works here too.
Blessings,
Bill
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Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have
learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as
many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual
lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22
In a message dated 11/29/2004 9:50:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 11/29/2004 1:07:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "disagrees [w\ BillT] without being disagreeable"
howso(?); elaborate, pls
I am kind of stuck, here, G. If I explai
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:49:16
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In a message dated 11/29/2004 1:07:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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"disagrees [w\ BillT] without being
disagreeable"
howso(?);
elaborate, pls
In a message dated 11/29/2004 7:16:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
how often is redundancy is the mother of truth?
Yes and sometimes it is simply a mother.
J
In regard to BillyT and his commentary on unilateral and bi-lateral..
Bll writes: "And so we see that the movement of God's reconciling love toward Israel not only revealed Israel's sin but intensified it."
Bill probably did not have the following in mind, but this confirming thought came to my
In a message dated 11/29/2004 1:07:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Bill. I appreciate you making an effort to explain the "unilateral
covenant" idea. You certainly seem to take a more moderate position about
this than some of the others on the list, and I consider th
yes and
no
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writes:
Hello Gary.
Before I answer, do you have an idea?
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who sits in
Moses seat now?
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:
Hello
Gary.
Before
I answer, do you have an idea?
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who sits in Moses
seat now?
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:29:20 -0500 "David Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:>The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses'
seat..[M
Terry: If Jesus never had anything good to
say about the Pharisees, and in fact, warned people about the stuff they were
dishing out ,(Matt.16:6-12), how could they think alike?
slade: The premise for your inquiry
is in error. Fix that and the rest will fall into place.Terry: Sorry, but no
how often
is redundancy is the mother of truth?
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:14:48 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 11/29/2004 9:52:53 AM
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No, I never did confuse[.. Rush with God]. However, of late
(read the last 8 years)
In a message dated 11/29/2004 10:06:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Miller wrote:
>> ... the text tells us that Abraham in league with God
>>was able to stop men from sleeping with his wife.
John Smithson wrote:
>There is nothing, as in "not a word" in the biblica
In a message dated 11/29/2004 9:52:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, I never did confuse El Rushbo with God. However, of late (read the last 8 years) I can't help but notice that he is saying the same things over and over and over and over...
When you can anticipate one's
In a message dated 11/29/2004 9:32:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>John Smithson wrote:
>>I wasn't aware that the Supreme Court used "open dynamic
>>theology" to negate precious [please read "previous] court decisions
>>Do you have an example?
>
>Roe v. Wade?
>
>The same
who sits in Moses
seat now?
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:29:20 -0500 "David Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:>The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses'
seat..[Matt23:2]
Thanks, Bill, but that's what I am trying to pin down for sure. I assume
Lance will say that he doesn't personally approve of it, but that we
shouldn't allow "religious" (read moral) laws to be administered. However,
EVERY law is a moral law. And if one opposes abortion personally but
approves o
Um, Izzy, I think maybe you ought to go back now and read what Lance wrote.
He can defend himself, if he so chooses, but until then, it doesn't look to
me like he has said anything that should lead you to believe that he
supports abortion on demand.
Bill
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The Supreme Court decided that there was a fictitious right for women to
abort living, healthy unborn children. They did this based upon some
imaginary "rights" that they suddenly discovered in the Constitution (which
by the way nobody can find by reading it). Just another example of ungodly
men p
Could you clarify the meaning of what?
From:
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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004
12:39 PM
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Schizophrenic God
I'd be delighted to do so. You needn't address t
Do you agree that there is nothing
in the text that says that Abraham was willing for men to sleep with
his wife? The text only says that he was willing to define his
relationship to her as brother and sister.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
David Miller wrote:
Terry wrote:
God is God. He can make exceptions to His
rules any time He wants to,
David Miller wrote:
If we come to an understanding that God has bent the
rules for someone, that is a warning flag to me that there
are some false assumptions being held.
Terry wrote:
Your warn
David states > I also question your
perspective that Abraham was only a recipient and not a participant in the
fulfillment of the covenant that he had with God . . .
I intended to be more specific than evidently I
was: I believe I said that Abraham was a recipient, not a participant in the
Lance wrote:
Religion, which originates with you know who (Satan),
has no place in a secular society (read America).
What about the religion of secular humanism?
Religion does have a place in secular society. Religion should be freely
practiced in a secular society, to help govern the morals and
Lance wrote:
I find it difficult to understand disagreeing with either
of those lower court decisions. [Creation Theories of origins and Ten
Commandments put into the closet.]
And I find it very difficult to agree with them. We should be free to
discuss Creation Theories of origins and free to p
Terry wrote:
Sorry, but no false premise on this one.
Jesus is never wrong. We are to beware
of what Pharisees teach.
Actually, Jesus warned about the leaven of the Pharisees, but that was not
their teaching but their actions. Consider the following passage where
Jesus instructs his disciples t
Slade wrote:
You're the one who claimed Early Church Fathers
(ECFs) considered the book spurious.
We have a gross misunderstanding of terms here. I understand "Early Church
Fathers" to mean Ante-Nicene fathers. I quoted Eusebius, who is not an
Early Church Father, as considering the book "spuri
You may also worhip in a church where liars and
gossips sit next to you. No difference.
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Actually,
Iz, I am go
I can. I don't believe the 'hand of God' is any more on America than it is
on Iraq. Religion, which originates with you know who (Satan), has no place
in a secular society (read America) Jeus, on the other hand, when occupying
a place in the hearts of America's citizenry, can effect great change wi
I'd be delighted to do so. You needn't address the
case at hand (Abraham) in order to address the issue, namely, that it is
difficult to grasp meaning.
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No comment, but you can hear what I'm thinking. :-) Izzy
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I find it difficult to unders
Actually, Iz, I am going to end my discusion with you. You assert that liberals
want to change the meaning of the biblical text and when asked for evidence,
you want me to look at divorce statistics!!! Your bias
and opinion are things that do not benefit me to any degree at all and
They most assuredly are and, what beautiful ears
they are! (Excuse my forwardness Mr. Shields.)
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Lance, I just checke
No, I never did confuse El Rushbo with God.
However, of late (read the last 8 years) I can't help but notice that he is
saying the same things over and over and over and over...
When you can anticipate one's responses to almost
any issue being discussed (Rush, I mean) ...ya know what I mean?
A dynamic theology is A) "theology" because it
consitutes thinking that is religious and even revelatory in nature (and what
is claled "Christian" in the case of those of us on this forum)
and B) "dynamic" because of the influence and work of the
Spirit. I can go for that, John,
as long
Sorry, I must have missed that part—would
you run it by me again Please? Izzy
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So then, d
Lance, I just checked in the mirror and—yes!—my
ears were still firmly attached on both sides. J Izzy
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The Schizophrenic God
The Holy Spirit always makes the Bible relevant for
today. (A task for which we do not need theologians; but try convincing
them.)
Are you sure? I've heard many people talk about the Five Offices. Are you saying we only need four?
So you stopped listening to Rush because
he isn’t God? Help me here, Lance. Izzy
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Izzy:'R
I find it difficult to understand disagreeing with either of those lower
court decisions.
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Sent: November 29, 2004 12:14
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> John Smithson wrote:
> > I wasn
John Smithson wrote:
I wasn't aware that the Supreme Court used "open dynamic
theology" to negate precious court decisions
Do you have an example?
Roe v. Wade?
The same principle is used in lower courts to keep creation theories out of
the classroom and to order the Ten Commandments to be removed
Slade wrote:
Does God preemptively punish us for sins that
we might/will do in the future? Then refer
to Gen 12.15-19.
I don't think God preemptively punishes anyone for possible future sin,
Slade. If anything, this suggests to me that Pharaoh took Sarah against
Abraham and Sarah's will. Then P
David Miller wrote:
>> ... the
text tells us that
Abraham in league with God>> was able to stop men from sleeping with
his wife.
John Smithson wrote:
> There is
nothing, as in "not a word" in the biblical text that
> tells us that Abraham stopped Abimelech from
sleeping
> with his wife
An interloper asks whether this comparison is legitimate? A judge MAY be
granted latitude, as many are. in sentencing for some offences. Perception
also comes into play. Some who came late to the work force got paid the same
wage as those who came early. They 'perceived' this to be unjust
treatmen
Terry wrote:
God is God. He can make exceptions to His
rules any time He wants to,
David Miller wrote:
If we come to an understanding that God has bent the
rules for someone, that is a warning flag to me that there
are some false assumptions being held.
Terry wrote:
Your warning flag may be malfun
Hi Bill. I appreciate you making an effort to explain the "unilateral
covenant" idea. You certainly seem to take a more moderate position about
this than some of the others on the list, and I consider that to be very
helpful for the discussion.
There are a few passages of Scripture in regards
Slade Henson wrote:
Terry -- If Jesus never had anything good to say
about the Pharisees, and in fact, warned people about the stuff they
were dishing out ,(Matt.16:6-12), how could they think alike?
slade -- The premise for your inquiry is in
error. Fix that and the rest will fa
In a message dated 11/28/2004 10:06:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Same difference as far as I can tell: just liberals wanting to change the original meaning by rationalizing that it needs to chance to keep up with the times so to speak. Wrong thing to do with the Const
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The Spirit of God has nothing to do with the Constitution. But He does with the biblical message (and more). That is what makes theology dynamic. A living moving force at work to cause growth via a numb
So then, don't address that portion. Will you
address the rest of what I said as to it's 'intent'?
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
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LOL! Actually I
To the extent that one (anyone on TT) 'interprets'
that one is an activist for that interpretation.As you read TT over time you
will come to 'see' those 'that have ears to hear' and those that
don't.
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Izzy:'Rightness':Only God is 'right'.
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Lance
wrote:
This probably isn't the time
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God
The Holy
Spirit always makes the Bible relevant for today. (A task for which we do
depends on what the meaning of "is" is
right?
I'm in too good of a mood to let this get me
down
:)
Jeff
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23:30
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
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Terry -- If Jesus never had anything good to say about the
Pharisees, and in fact, warned people about the stuff they were dishing
out ,(Matt.16:6-12), how could they think alike?slade --
The premise for your inquiry is in error. Fix that and the rest will fall
into place.Question two. If
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