Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Caroline Wong
Subject: Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 And what about the Pharisees? They were indoctrinated and therefore incapable tooCaroline Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But therein opens up a can of worms. What about people who are mentally

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Caroline Wong
God is not American and so could not vote. Not that He would care to. He is sovereign of a kingdom we belong to. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Terry Clifton
Kevin Deegan wrote: And what about the Pharisees? They were indoctrinated and therefore incapable too Ah so! We have an example given to us by God to enable us to discern. Thank you Kevin, for pointing that out.

RE: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
And what about those who have heard the Truth, and reject it for a version of their own? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 10:22 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Judy Taylor
TECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:37 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Actually, I was reacting to your phrase "deserving a place at God's table".

RE: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
07, 2005 7:16 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Some would draw the line and say all those people are outside the circle; some would say we can not sin beyond God's grace. Besides, Paul assures us that all Jews will be saved

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Caroline Wong
Which is all of us :-) Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: RE: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 And what about those who have heard the Truth

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Caroline Wong
. Why should we warn the rebellious? Is it not God's will that they burn forever? Why shorten the party here and now? Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: RE: RE: [Trut

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: Which is all of us :-) Love, Caroline = Speak for yourself please. Terry

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
lious? Is it not God's will that they burn forever? Why shorten the party here and now? Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: RE: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline, The onl

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
: Saturday, May 07, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: RE: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 And what about those who have heard the Truth, and reject it for a version of their own? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline WongSent: Friday, May 06, 2005 10:22 PMTo

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Does God vote Republican or Democrat?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only of the RNC On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:37:20 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The truth is I’m very u

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Calvin theology. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 6:13 AM Subject: Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 And what about the Pharisees? They were indoctrinated and therefore incapable

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: Romans 11:25-57 KJV "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.And so all Israel shall be

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Judy Taylor
This does not mean that every Jew presently living in what is literally called Israel is going to be included in God's Kingdom so that what they could not accomplish under the Law will just be put upon them now whether they want it or not. It makes no sense for one and is not the way God

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Caroline Wong
lk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline Wong wrote: Romans 11:25-57 KJV "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: Okay, you got me there, Terry. That should be Romans 11:25-27. But here is the rest of the passage in KJV (verses 28 to 32) "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.For

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Caroline Wong
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline Wong wrote: Okay, you got me there, Terry. That should be Romans 11:25-27. But here is the rest of the passage in KJV (verses 28 to 32) "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-07 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: But does anyoneever choose hell - eternal damnation and eternal conscious torture? = I have witnessed to several friends over the years who did exactly that (choose Hell). I am still praying

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 I disagree rationally. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline WongSent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:34 PMTo

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread Caroline Wong
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline, None of what you stated are God’s criteria for deserving a place at Gods table. There is plenty of room at the table, but only for those who have chosen to follow Jesus Christ

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
all you ever do is criticize WELL G the book does say: 2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousnessAnd you need some Prov 10 he that refuseth reproof erreth. Prov 29 He, that being

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
I find your criticism to be without merit. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:28 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 indeed, all you ever

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:49 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 uhhhdidn't I say we were all following Jesus with our hearts and minds? But I'm glad

Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread Lance Muir
I, for one, do not. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 06, 2005 08:36 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 I find your criticism to be without merit. Izzy From

Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread Lance Muir
Ahhh perspectivalism, you rear your head once again. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 06, 2005 08:48 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline, No, that is not what you

RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Why am I not surprised? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 7:18 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 I, for one, do not. - Original

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread Lance Muir
Could it be just because you are not easily surprised? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 06, 2005 12:43 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Why am I not surprised

Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Wright lecture

2005-05-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Fulcrum or "support about which a lever turns?" Likeothertheologians of your paradigm Lance -Wrightavoids the distasteful (and in his words stays withthe beautiful, creative, and aesthetic) which negatesalmost all of the "truth once delivered to the saints" - Wright opines: "One of the

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
G sazs "all you ever do is criticize--apparently your intended cover forweak rationale" MYTH! indeed, all you ever do is criticize--apparently your intended cover forweak rationale On Thu, 5 May 2005 22:16:07 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That’s all I ever do. You just

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 G sazs all you ever do is criticize--apparently your intended cover forweak rationale MYTH! indeed, all you ever do is criticize--apparently your intended cover forweak rationale On Thu, 5 May 2005 22:16:07

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread caroline
: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/06 Fri AM 08:48:22 EST To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline, No, that is not what you wrote below. We can only take a person's word for whether or not they are following Jesus with all

RE: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:37 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Actually, I was reacting to your phrase deserving a place at God's table. I come from

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Wright lecture

2005-05-06 Thread knpraise
Just listened to a sermon by Rick Warren in which he stated that every time we defeat or overcome temptation, we become a little more like Jesus Doing verses becoming. Preached Dr. Jame's wedding this past weekend -- used as my text Col 1:17-25. I was a little startled at just how

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Wright lecture

2005-05-06 Thread knpraise
:08 -0400 Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: Wright lecture   - Original Message - From: Jonathan Hughes To: Lance Muir Sent: May 06, 2005 07:42 Subject: Wright lecture fulcrum conference islington Inciting Insight: The Holy Spirit friday 29 april 2005 The Holy Spirit in the Church Tom Wright

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture

2005-05-06 Thread knpraise
-Original Message- From: Caroline Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:46:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture Does this mean we can't pull rapture jokes on people anymore. You

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread ttxpress
05 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline, None of what you stated are God’s criteria for deserving a place at Gods table. There is plenty of room at the table, but only for those who have chosen to follow Jesus Christ as Lord and

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread ttxpress
you're convincedi'm a sinner, eh? On Fri, 6 May 2005 05:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .. the book does..instruct[..] in righteousnessAnd you need some ||

Re: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread Caroline Wong
:07 PM Subject: RE: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline, you are exactly right. Grace is what "earns" us a place at the table--the sacrifice of Christ paid for the ticket to the party. We can't "deserve" anything except hell but for H

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-06 Thread ttxpress
only of the RNC On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:37:20 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The truth is Im very un-critical... ||

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
I disagree rationally. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:34 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Indeed you would be if you disagreed

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Indeed you would be if you disagreed rationally with what I wrote. If you disagreed emotionally, then it's another matter altogether. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-05 Thread Caroline Wong
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 I disagree rationally. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:40 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 We both are intellectually honest and sincere in our pursuit of the faith. We each go by the light of our

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-05 Thread ttxpress
Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:34 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Indeed you would be if you disagreed rationally with what I wrote. If you disagreed emotionally, then it's another matter altogether. Love,

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thats all I ever do. You just arent rational enough to get it. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:35 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Hansen
: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible DAVEH: Then does it concern you at all to post his conclusions when they may be based on assumptions to which you do not subscribe? Lance Muir wrote: Presently, I do not. - Original Message

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Not a problem for me. Shouldnt be for a poet like yourself. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:57 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
They moult. Like my Sheltie. Sheesh is right! Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:05 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 :-) I have a cat from

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-04 Thread Lance Muir
Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 04, 2005 02:11 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible DAVEH: Sorry 'bout that, Lance. Let me try it again. You posted negative material relating to the BofM. The author used

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Smiles From The Bible

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible I both like and agree with some of what I've read from every TT participant. The operative word? 'some'. Do you not approach TT in the same fashion. Do you not approach the LDS in the same way? If you

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Smiles From The Bible

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
, May 04, 2005 2:47 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Smiles From The Bible Oh, Blaine--I can't take any more corny jokes~~can't you post a warning??? :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Lance Muir
: May 03, 2005 22:16 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 The lessons it teaches are true. One must first look for the possibility that each word/phrase means exactly what it says, barring obvious parables and illustrations. The simplest approach

RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Only for confused theologians. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:56 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 In his course 'Biblical Exegesis

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-04 Thread Lance Muir
I'm nuts! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 04, 2005 04:48 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible Lance, aren’t you working at the bookstore

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Lance Muir
04, 2005 05:03 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Only for confused theologians. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:56 AMTo: TruthTalk

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Im not sure thats something you should be doing at all. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:47 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible I'm nuts! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 04, 2005 04:48 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:57 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 in your view now, poetry isthe 'simplest approach' to the truth? On Tue, 3 May 2005 21:16:08 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: T

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 03, 2005 10:12 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible DAVEH: Then does it concern you at all to post his conclusions when they may be based on assumptions to which you do not subscribe?Lance Muir wrote: Presently, I

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-04 Thread Terry Clifton
ShieldsFamily wrote: Lance, arent you working at the bookstore a bit late tonight? What the heck is everybody doing up in the middle of the night??? Izzy Dark phase of the moon. It has a powerful effect on lunar ticks. :) Terry

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Terry Clifton
Lance Muir wrote: New documentary:'Noam Chomsky-Rebel Without a Pause'.It is difficult for one NOT to agree with much of his assessment regarding that decaying system to the south of Canada. == Never heard of him or

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: . We know Proverbs is a collection of wise sayings but not literal promises we get to hold God to. We know Psalms is Israel's songbook and it contains some pretty raw things said against their enemies and that we're not allowed to pray or think same

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Smiles From The Bible

2005-05-04 Thread Debbie Sawczak
Who was the shortest man in the Bible? Bildad the Shuhite. My dad's (may he rest in peace) favourite Bible joke. Debbie -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 04 May 2005 07:05:59 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance Muir wrote: New documentary:'Noam Chomsky-Rebel Without a Pause'.It is difficult for one NOT to agree with much of his assessment regarding that decaying system to the south of

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Chicago Statement of very conservative inerrancy Some would not accept the Chicago statement as very conservative! There are many that being more "very" conservative reject the liberal portions of that statement. It is more Evangelical than Fundamentalist, maybe even neo Evangelical in so

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Caroline Wong wrote: We know Proverbs is a collection of wise sayings but not literal promises we get to hold God to. We can hold to His promises by faith but we don't get to hold God to anything - Proverbs is the wisdom of God - and yes it is literal to one

[TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture Does this mean we can't pull rapture jokes on people anymore. You know, invite them over for dinner, leave the front door open, leave piles of clothes in strategic spots, make it look like you were

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2005 07:05:59 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance Muir wrote: New documentary:'Noam Chomsky-Rebel Without a Pause'.It is difficult for one NOT to agree with much of his assessment regarding

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 On Wed, 04 May 2005 07:05:59 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance Muir wrote: New documentary:'Noam Chomsky-Rebel Without a Pause'.It is difficult for one NOT to agree with much of his assessment

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Caroline, I cant really agree with most of what you have said. So maybe Im just being intellectually honest with you? Izzy I thought, surely Izzy jests! which is why I replied in kind. Watts is not saying the bible isn't true or looking for reasons to not take it

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Approaching the bible as truth in history, poetry, wisdom literature, biography and prophecy does not hurt a person's faith or relationship with God. Caroline = Good thinking. Probably the best post

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Lance Muir
Did you note Terry's response to this same post? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 04, 2005 13:46 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Keep in mind that Lance can only

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Judy Taylor
I understand what Terry is saying but he also had a question that you ignored - Why? Is Canada squeaky clean? I don't believe you and Terry are focused onthe same things.Chomsky's big thing is politics and what motivates America in her political choices - like he has an inside ear ot

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Yes. You didnt answer his question yetdo you think Canada is any better? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:02 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Lance Muir
Are you and the good doctor human? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 04, 2005 15:41 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Yes. You didn’t answer his question

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Wheres JD? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:38 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture Well, you know why it's so quiet on TT all

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
A non-sequitur? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:08 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Are you and the good

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
question yet—do you think Canada is any better? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:02 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Did you note Terry's response

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture Well, you know why it's so quiet on TT all of a sudden, don't you? Go ahead WHY? Debbie Sawczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you know why it's so quiet on TT all of a sudden, don't you? - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Caroline Wong
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline, I can’t really agree with most of what you have said. So maybe I’m just being intellectually honest with you? Izzy I thought, surely Izzy jests! which is why I replied in kind. Watts

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:46 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline, I can’t really agree with most of what you have said. So maybe I’m just being intellectually honest with you? Izzy I thought, surely Izzy jests! which is why I replied in kind. Watts

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell to the Rapture

2005-05-04 Thread Debbie Sawczak
My dear Kevin, Debbie has been WORKING, much like you. She has a LIFE! :-) --Debbie's publicist - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: NT Wright - Farewell

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-04 Thread Debbie Sawczak
, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 It is Feast or FAMINE with this crowd! Still waiting for info on where I can go see the copies of the Septuagint! AND how about the greek Titus'understanding of Hebrew Culture? I guess

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-03 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Lance, do you (agreeing with the author's assumptions below) believe Jesus did not speak the words of Mk 15-18 as mentioned below? - Original Message - From: Jonathan Hughes To: Lance Muir Sent: April 22, 2005 21:27 Subject: Book of Mormon and the KJV

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-03 Thread Lance Muir
Presently, I do not. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk Sent: May 03, 2005 02:27 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible DAVEH: Lance, do you (agreeing with the author's assumptions below) believe Jesus did

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
are half raccoon! Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:43 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Hi Terry; I was surprised when I found out

RE: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Id rather not impair it at all. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Watts can be correct (or incorrect) and trusting the Scriptures does not need to be severely impaired.

Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 3 May 2005 06:14:38 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are obviously operating with the belief that truth can be reduced to certainty. As to some things (this perhaps being one of those things) it cannot.Unlike a house of cards mentality (if you remove one card

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread Lance Muir
I'm actually not surprised, Judy. You write with care and, considerable thought. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 03, 2005 07:38 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: Hi Terry; I was surprised when I found out that hard-core young earth creationists also believed in evolution. They believe that God created one type of each animal and they evolved into different species. (ex. one elephant which later became 2 (or more?)

Re: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread Terry Clifton
Lance Muir wrote: You are obviously operating with the belief that truth can be reduced to certainty. As to some things (this perhaps being one of those things) it cannot. == Could you elaborate on

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-03 Thread Dave Hansen
02:27 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible DAVEH: Lance, do you (agreeing with the author's assumptions below) believe Jesus did not speak the words of Mk 15-18 as mentioned below? - Original Message - From: Jonathan

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible

2005-05-03 Thread Lance Muir
You lost me. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 03, 2005 10:12 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible DAVEH: Then does it concern you at all to post his conclusions when

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread ttxpress
is the bible's poetry literal..what makes it true? On Mon, 2 May 2005 21:33:24 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the Bible..isnt true ([if not] literal) ..we.. believe it is [literal]? Does it take research to rationalize justification for not believing it is

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
it up by making it complex out of all proportion. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:37 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 is the bible's poetry

[TruthTalk] Fw: Joke

2005-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Forwarded Message -- With hope that nobody who happens to be one of these religions is offended... Just laugh at the others. :) Joan Great decisions made by committee: regarding the simple light bulb ... 1. How many Charismatics does it take to change a light bulb? One to

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-03 Thread ttxpress
in your view now, poetry isthe 'simplest approach' to the truth? On Tue, 3 May 2005 21:16:08 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The lessons[biblical poetry] teaches are true...The simplest approach is the easiest way to..the truth

[TruthTalk] Fw: Smiles From The Bible

2005-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sunday is a good day for a humorous scripture quiz – Me Q. What kind of man was Boaz before he married? A. Ruthless. Q. What do they call pastors in Germany? A. German Shepherds. Q. Who was the greatest financier in the Bible? A Noah. He was floating his stock

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