In a message dated 2/1/2005 6:28:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
I have noticed over the years --- some
41 years of ministry I might add and proudly
so, that those who claim sinless perfectionism
"by the power of the Indwelling" are the very
one's who exhibit
gentlemen, your perspectives,
represented below,arevery clear--the opponent, perhaps
adversarial,relationship isevident..
let's try this so DavidM can rest
easier at leastabout our adulthoods (maturity? -- we'll
see:)..
(ftr, for now, my/his adulthood,
etc. is a differentissue:)
..as i
Cool.We're on the same pageon this
one.
Bill
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:11:04 -0700 "Bill Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks, Izzy. Yeah, I hear you and agree with
much of what you say here. My problem is, I don't really know where my
agreement with you shifts and turns into disagreement, and how I should
understand that
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005
10:11 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth as
viewed by one of the greats
Thanks, Izzy. Yeah, I hear you and agree with much of what
you say here. My problem is, I don't really know where my agreement with you
shifts and turns
Good points, jt.
Excuse my butt in Izzy
and Bill - I think we have some helpful examplesin scripture, the first
being Peter's epiphany where Jesus told him flesh and blood had not revealed
this to him, it had come from the Fr in heaven. The second is Paul's gospel
which he said
Bill Taylor wrote:
If we have this God's eye view of reality that
you and David are suggesting, why can't we,
those of us who are indwelt by the Holy Spirit,
not agree upon what we are looking at?
I know that pride has something to do with it ...
Yes, pride often does have something to do
An Editorial on Mormons
Paul Allen
Santa Clarita, CA newspaper Editor:
I have heard and seen enough!
I have lived in the West all my life. I have worked around them. They have
worked for me and I for them.
When I was young, I dated their daughters. When I got married
Paul Tillich one said this: " ...anyone who has a degree of ultimate concern is a theologian. One's life is, after all, is an _expression_ of all his 'ologies, including his private theology."
I have noticed over the years --- some 41 years of ministry I might add and proudly so, that those
Thanks, JD, for the great example of hate
speech. Read my last post and see how controlling I
am. Izzy
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth As Viewed
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Good Morning Bill:
I have no problem with the fact that Jesus will
always be the lamb of God, firstborn from
John wrote:
None of us stand above the forest.
Bill Taylor wrote:
Well said, John. No doubt about it, in this
age of enlightenment that is a difficult truth
to learn.
Difficult for the spiritually minded perhaps. The statement by John, None
of us stand above the forest, is completely
this by
participating IN that reality, not by standing above it.
Bill
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 7:28 PM
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John wrote:
None of us stand above
In a message dated 1/30/2005 6:29:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Difficult for the spiritually minded perhaps. The statement by John, "None
of us stand above the forest," is completely false. It is not truth. It is
error.
Why don't you tell us what John was talking
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Either I have missed the context of John's comment, David, or you have
missed the context of one or both of our statements. I am saying that
none
of us has a God's-eye view of reality. We may have very good,
spiritual,
reasons to interpret reality in
Bill wrote:
I am saying that none of us has a God's-eye
view of reality.
And I am saying that some DO have a God's eye view of reality.
Bill wrote:
We may have very good, spiritual, reasons to
interpret reality in one way and not another,
but we do this by participating IN that reality,
thing else going on here. That is what John
and Debbie and G are talking about.
Bill
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Truth as viewed
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In a message dated 1/27/2005 6:52:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is my conten
2005 6:56
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Debbie:Better said than my post, I
think. Another way of looking at is this: In the "forrest
and the tree" illustration - it is the forest that is "truth" not the
tree. the question i
In a message dated 1/29/2005 6:11:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote None of us stand above the "forest."
Well said, John. No doubt about it, in this age of enlightenment that is a difficult truth to learn.
Thank you, sir. I am off to work. Got to save my
suggestions? Bill
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Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:33
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth as viewed
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In a message dated 1/29/2005 6:11:20 AM Pacific
Standard Time
Bill TaylorFri, 28 Jan 2005
08:56:44 -0800
A hardy AMEN on this one, John. I am
confident that others will read this and agree.
As it pertains to Judy's statement, "[Jesus]wasn't a son before the incarnation and he
hasn't
been thatsince
2005 8:12
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Subject: [TruthTalk] Truth As Viewed by
One of the Greats
Bill TaylorFri, 28 Jan 2005
08:56:44 -0800
A hardy AMEN on this one, John. I am
confident that others will read this and agree.
As it pertains
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 29, 2005 09:53
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth as viewed
by one of the greats
Do you have any ideee how much material I
have to review before going? Sure glad I have a CD player in my
truck! E h. Smithson -- out
Good Morning Bill:
I have no problem with the fact that Jesus will always
be the lamb of God, firstborn from the dead, and the
ONLY begotten Son of the
Father; neither do Idispute that he is ever called the son of the Father
following the resurrection. Possibly I should have
phrased the
the other was severely injured.
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From: Bill Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 29, 2005 09:53
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth as viewed by one of the greats
Do you have any ideee how much material I have to review before going? Sure glad I have a CD
: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:56
AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Truth as viewed by one of the greatsDebbie:Better said than my post, I think.
Another way of looking at is this: In the "forrest and the
tree" illustration - it is the forest that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/27/2005 6:52:05 PM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It
is my contention that an awareness/assurance of "truth" is not
possible apart from the sharing of ideas (read "truth"). In this
remark, obtaining truth and having the
===
To reduce this to a few easy to understand words, John, you seem to be saying
that you do not have the ability to recognize truth by yourself. I
realize that when cut down to the basics, this sounds less than kind, but that
is not
In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:36:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To reduce this to a few easy to understand words, John, you seem to be saying that you do not have the ability to recognize truth by yourself. I realize that when cut down to the basics, this sounds less than
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:58
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth as viewed
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In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:36:07 AM Pacific
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
To reduce this to a few easy to understand w
Are you comparing the Bible to a drivers manual?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:36:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To reduce this to a few easy to understand words, John, you seem to be saying that you do not have the ability to recognize truth by
Bill wrote:
As it pertains to Judy's statement, [Jesus] wasn't
a son before the incarnation and he hasn't been
that since the resurrection, I'm sure she made it
in the heat of the moment and upon reflection
would want to be able to take some of it back.
I hope that is the case too, Bill. I
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Are you comparing the Bible to a drivers manual?
Somewhat, I suppose, but much more. A better way to put it is that is
my only source of absolute truth; about God, about morality, about
community, about
Did you learn your trade by simply reading a book? Have you become a caring husband via the same process? Driving a car? Learning to walk -- Terry the Sufficient learning to walk on his own. Terry -- there is nothing that you know in this life that has come your way apart from your association
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:17
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[TruthTalk] Truth as viewed by one of the greatsIn a message dated 1/27/2005 6:52:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 1/27/2005 6:52:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is my contention that an awareness/assurance of "truth" is not possible apart from the sharing of ideas (read "truth"). In this remark, obtaining truth and having the assurance that I possess the "truth"
In a message dated 1/27/2005 11:17:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, Knpraise writes:
In a message dated 1/27/2005 6:52:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is my contention that an awareness/assurance of "truth" is not possible apart from the sharing of ideas (read "truth"). In
2 Timothy 3:7
(7) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Truth is not meant to be something searched out but never apprehended.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to
Let me further suggest that 'truth' is not a someTHING but, a someONE. We
need to take care not to 'thingify' truth.
'I (said Jesus) AM THE. TRUTH'
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 19, 2004 15:49
Subject: [TruthTalk] Truth Apprehended
2 Timothy 3:7
How about this one, Lance... Your WORD, O God is TRUTH!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, 19 November, 2004 15.54
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth Apprehended
Let me further suggest that 'truth
Sorry, David. Your use of double negatives confused me.
-- slade
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, 19 November, 2004 15.50
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Subject: [TruthTalk] Truth Apprehended
2 Timothy 3:7
(7) Ever
I do believe that we had this very conversation some time back. (The Lord
Himself His Word). Please allow me to ponder..z
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From: Slade Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 19, 2004 17:07
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Truth
Lance, You are such proof that humor DOES exist, and even thrive, in Canada!
:-) Izzy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 4:33 PM
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I do
In a message dated 11/19/2004 2:36:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do believe that we had this very conversation some time back. (The Lord
Himself His Word). Please allow me to ponder..z
:-)
JD
In a message dated 6/20/2004 4:07:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.alzstl.org/News/A_blank_place.htm Izzy
God bless you and your family. Jonathon, read this and you will agree that Linda Shields is no blond.
John Smithson
Only my hairdresser knows! Izzy
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Talk or Politics
In a message dated 6/20/2004 4:07
In a message dated 6/23/2004 6:06:33 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.alzstl.org/News/A_blank_place.htm
Izzy
Great article. Thanks for sharing.
Laura
Judyt:"there is nothing truthful about what you and
Jonathan write regarding the United States" WOW!!
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 19, 2004 16:20
Subject: [TruthTalk] Truth Talk or
Politics
Why Lance? B
I enjoyed reading about your dad Izzy and I pray he
will be especially blessed this
Father's Day. jt
From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Happy
Fathers Day to all TT Dads.
Enjoy your families while you can. I wrote a little piece about my Dad for
the St. Louis Alzheimers Association at
Thanks. Yours, too. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:05
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] Truth Talk or
Politics
I enjoyed reading about your dad Izzy
and I pray he will be especially
Why Lance? Because you are unwilling or unable to
discuss issues pertaining to life and godliness which are more in line with the
purpose for a Truth Talk list? There is nothing truthful about what you
and Jonathan write regarding the United States so why would you rather discuss
"the art
Please post athorough list of the
doctrines in question, below.
G
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:20:09 -0400 Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..fundies would have to agree on [every detail of]
doctrine
Happy Fathers Day to all TT Dads. Enjoy your families while you can. I wrote a little piece about my Dad for
the St. Louis Alzheimers Association at : http://www.alzstl.org/News/A_blank_place.htm
Izzy
2003 8:14 AMTo:
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John Ashcroft
We need to pray for Chris.
Terry
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/
Greetings Izzy and David in
the Matchless Name
We need to pray for Chris.
Terry
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/
Greetings Izzy and David in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
YirmeYah (Jeremiah) stood alone against the gainsayers and was called the weeping prophet. Though I may stand alone on "Truth"Talk I am far from alone in standing firm
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] TRUTH about John Ashcroft
Chris
Barr wrote:
I see your still spinning, David.
No,
I am not. If you want spin, just visit the IBT website at
http
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings Izzy and David in the
Matchless Name of YahShua !!
YirmeYah (Jeremiah) stood alone against the gainsayers and was called the
weeping prophet. Though I may stand alone on "Truth"Talk I am far from
alone in standing firm for TRUTH and REJOICE!
JOYFUL, and
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:27:15
-0400 "David Miller"writes:[IBT] should not claim special exemption
because they
are under God and not
under government.
Is the atty genrequiredto
uphold 'separation of church and state'(?); selectively?
gary ottoson * http://ozg2003.blogspot.com
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Joyous New Moon Greetings in the
Matchless Name of YahShua !!
I see your still spinning, David.
Even if your facts were straight and youwere right you'd still be
wrong. Ever hear of Dred Scott? Jim Crow? How about Roe v Wade
or the recent Nuremburg Files
Chris Barr wrote:
I see your still spinning, David.
No, I am not. If you want spin, just visit the IBT website at
http://indianapolisbaptisttemple.com. Notice how they post replies but
do not provide links to the material being replied to. You will only
hear one side there. That is spin.
If
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of
YahShua !!
- Original Message -
From: ShieldsFamily
Sent: 07/29/2003 9:57 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Lies about John
Ashcroft
Do YOU think John Ashcroft is a
threat to freedom
It was more than a month into Slick
Chris wrote:
It took barely more than two week's into the current
administration for John Ashcroft's feds to raid the
Indianapolis Baptist Temple established for more than
50 years. The church and its extensive holdings were
taken by Ashcroft and his jack-booted thugs, and
auctioned
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of
YahShua !!
Nice spin, David ... you may be dizzy about
the facts but I am not.
Indianapolis Baptist Temple DID NOT evade
taxes. All the taxes were paid AND RETURNED by the Infernal Revenue
Service because church EMPLOYEES paid
Chris wrote:
Nice spin, David ... you may be dizzy
about the facts but I am not.
No spin on my part. I'm stating facts. The law is that Employers are
to withhold taxes from their employees. Indianapolis Baptist Temple
refused to do this, claiming religious exemption because their New
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Truth on Lent"The word Lent is of Anglo-Saxon origin, meaning
spring." (Marguerite Ickis, The Book of
Religious Holidays and Celebrations, New York: Dodd, Mead Company, 1966,
p.114)Compare Baal Worship: 40 days of fasting for Tammuz; with
Catholicism: 40 days
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Truth On GroundHog Day The
Groundhog, Punxsutawney Phil, saw his shadow Feb 2nd and predicted six more
weeks of winter. Harmless little tradition? Or does the day reflect ancient
pagan practices? Lets have a brief look, shall we?The day is known as
'Candlemas'
In a message dated 2/8/2003 9:46:41 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As you said, people “give up things that aren’t good for them anyway”—so what’s the point? Does this make you any holier or closer to God?
Not in my opinion Even though it amazes me, I know I am under the
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