, 2006 21:41 Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Hell BoMDAVEH: Sometimes I just don't feel compelled to argue with you, Kevin. Don't want to "argue"? TRUTH is always able to withstand Public scrutiny! Maybe, you can call me names (like the other LDS quoted below much more availabl
2006 21:41
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
DAVEH: Sometimes I just don't feel
compelled to argue with you, Kevin.
Don't want to "argue"?
TRUTH is always able to withstand Public scrutiny!
Maybe, you can call me names (like the other
LDS quoted bel
> > the truth?"/*> > _*After all ANTI's are Stupid & Losers and do not really undestand,> > > just can't get the facts straight!*_> > http://www.mormonismi.info/jamesdavid/negative.htm>
>> > */Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:> >> > *To avoid WHAT?*> >> > DAV
truth?"/*> > _*After all ANTI's are Stupid & Losers and do not really undestand,> > > just can't get the facts straight!*_> > http://www.mormonismi.info/jamesdavid/negative.htm> >> > */Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:> >> > *To avoid WHAT?*&
;/* wrote:
> >
> > *To avoid WHAT?*
> >
> > DAVEH: Contention perhaps, such as is commonly found here?
> >
> >
> > ShieldsFamily wrote:
> >
> >> *To avoid WHAT?* That nice, positive place? iz
> >>
> >>
LOL!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To avoid
WHAT?
DAVEH: Contention perhaps, such as is commonly found here
To avoid
WHAT? That nice, positive place? iz
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On Behalf Of Dave
Hansen
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March 20, 2006 12:30 AM
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Amen, Brother Kevin! iz
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Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
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CONTENTION is of the Devil
3 Ne 11 And according as I have
hat nice, positive place? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave HansenSent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:30 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM DAVEH: The Lord has provided a way for us to avoid it.ShieldsFamily wrote:
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Hell BoM
DAVEH: The Lord has provided
a way for us to
avoid it.
ShieldsFamily wrote:
What is the
positive message about hell? iz
Do you ever warn people about the FIRE of
hell?
DAVEH: No, I don&#
Oh, Jude, you’re on a roll….:-)
izzy
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Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:15
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
What is the "Wo
06 5:32 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
I understand that a lot of agreement exists between Benny Hinn and Kenneth
Copeland. So?
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To:
Sent: March 19, 2006 22:40
Subject
To avoid WHAT? That nice, positive place?
iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Behalf Of Dave Hansen
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:30
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DAVEH: The Lord has provided a way for us to
What is the "Word of Faith" approach
Lance?
Just because there are a few nuts and flakes out there
will you throw all healing down the
drain with them? This is why the church in
general has so many sick ppl. Sin is not understood or dealt with
most of the time because we don't want to offe
s within your
sect > concerning> > this. Amen, I guess, for consistency if
nothing else.
> > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To:
<TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>>
> Sent: March 18, 2006 16:11> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
B
;, 1986 2. 'Faith and Rationality: Reason and Belief in God', 1984
Should you wish to present the positive side of rationalism, dualism,
reductionism and, perhaps even gnosticism then, I should like to hear it.
Lance
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAI
I understand that a lot of agreement exists between Benny Hinn and Kenneth
Copeland. So?
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From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: March 19, 2006 22:40
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
The problem with you, Lance, is that you live
David:Will you tell us something about the 'church' you're a part of. What
is your role in that 'church'?
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To:
Sent: March 19, 2006 22:31
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
La
when God is so good.
David Miller
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:19
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
What truth d
What does this say about the Power of Mormonism?
DAVEH: I'd respond with..What does this say about the ability
of Kevin to understand what he reads?
As I said before, you seem to know a lot about LDS theology, but
you seem to have a problem understanding it. I can only surmise tha
Couldn't have said it better myself.
jd
-- Original message -- From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DAVEH: The Lord has provided a way for us to avoid it.ShieldsFamily wrote:
What is the positive message about hell? iz
Do you ever warn people about the FI
DAVEH: The Lord has provided a way for us to avoid it.
ShieldsFamily wrote:
What is the
positive message about hell?
iz
Do you ever warn people about the FIRE of
hell?
DAVEH: No, I don't do much preaching, and when I doI prefer to
be more positive
Perhaps they enjoy disturbing themselves. Meanwhile,
we rejoice. J izzy
From:
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Miller
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PM
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What this reminds
row minded
about what "real" scientists believe. izzy
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:21 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
I DID discuss it with you off t
Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:38 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
David:On warning (wo)men re:'transgressing the commandments of God'.
Everyone (including you along with all of those within your sect, David)
'transgresses the command
What is the positive message about hell?
iz
Do you ever warn people about the FIRE of hell?
DAVEH: No, I don't do much preaching, and when I doI prefer to
be more positive in my approach.
You might plead lack of intelligence or that the Holy Spirit is not a rationalist or any number of things, but it is quite simple and true that if you do not keep the commandments, you are not in Christ. Here is the reason that you and I cannot understand one another concerning the characteristic
ot;David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>Sent: March 19, 2006 08:08Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
> Well, perhaps I should have kept that to myself, or shared privately with > a> few others, but then, wouldn't that have tended toward s
OH like Paul For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Unitarians, of course, have beliefs. Here is a definition of sectarian that allows many to escap
Unitarians, of course, have beliefs.
Here is a definition of sectarian that allows many to escape the curse of "Sectarian !!"
Sectarianism refers (usually pejoratively) to a rigid adherence to a particular sect or party or denomination. It often implies discrimination, denunciation, or violen
Riddle me this one Batman!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A 'posture' from which a 'blithering idiot' like myself might learn.- Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 12:44 Subject: Re: [TruthT
Where are the valiant ones like in Helaman? LDS don't have even one that believes thier gods words in DC 71? No one believes the promise of DC 71? there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper; 10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded I lift my v
But Jesus did not have a command as in DC 71 COMMANDING him to confound. Why all the verses on confounding when to all observers it would seem that it is in reality the LDS who are confounded? Seems the LDS god has called and none have answered. Men women or children. On paper in 1Nep 17 LDS are
There is no thing as a NON SECTARIAN unless you mean a Unitarian who has no beliefsDavid Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lance wrote:> David:On warning (wo)men re:'transgressing> the commandments of God'. Everyone> (including you along with all of those within> your sect, David) 'transgresses th
nnglory.org
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Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
What truth do you refer to Lance?
Are you calling him co-leader of a sectarian group because he encourages his daughter
to believe God to speed healing of her wrist and relieve the pain?
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:19
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
What truth do you refer to Lance?
Are you calling him co-leader of a sectarian group
t the ideas expressed by these words.
David Miller
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
I DID discuss it with you off the list but, you did not respond, David. What
we (most beli
A 'posture' from which a 'blithering idiot' like
myself might learn.
- Original Message -
From:
Dave
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 19, 2006 12:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM -
confounded LDS
The tables have been turned! T
The tables have been turned! The SP's call the LDS shudder!
DAVEH: Perhaps you are right, Kevin. I know I don't have much fight
in me at the moment. Perhaps the modern LDS people just aren't
conditioned to be contentious, which would explain why some would
rather avoid the SPers rather than
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 19, 2006 09:41
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
Since when has truth been evaluated by how many
have in the past gotten of the
track and fallen? As sad as that may be every
one will stand or fall be
It hasn't Judy but, untruth has.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 19, 2006 09:41
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
Since when has truth been evaluated by how
ithout MEANING > what > > the>
> early church MEANT. On this one DH may be closer to the truth than >
DM.> >> >> > - Original Message - >
> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To:
<TruthTalk@mail.innglory.
er the centuries who
'knew that they knew'!!
Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: March 19, 2006 08:03
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
Your suggestion is a possibility if my speaking was a matter of trying to
imitate t
ld you? Further David,
would you be interested in exposing yourself to some 'real' logicians
(i.e. philosophers who employ logic without falling prey to
rationalism).
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>Sent:
No!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 19, 2006 08:19
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
What truth do you refer to Lance?
Are you calling him co-leader of a sectarian
What truth do you refer to Lance?
Are you calling him co-leader of a sectarian group
because he encourages his daughter
to believe God to speed healing of her wrist and
relieve the pain? or
Because there are many religious sects on this TT
list?
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:13:20 -0500 "Lance Mu
rself to some 'real' logicians (i.e.
philosophers who employ logic without falling prey to rationalism).
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: March 19, 2006 08:08
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
Well, perhaps I should ha
David could 'justify' this truth better than I,
Judy.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 19, 2006 08:07
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
On Sun, 19 Mar
You are not doing what the early church did DM brings up a great point. Since the LDS are a RESTORATION of the Early Church, why are you are not doing what the early church did? I checked the word CONFOUND and it seems to be the Spirit of God come upon the characters in the BoM etc. Yet i
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:00:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:> Like it or not David, you are co-leader of a sectarian
group.
Can you justify this announcement Lance by giving us a
list of
the various sects that comprise this group?
Mormon is obvious,
what are the others.
than
making erroneous judgments about me.
David Miller
- Original Message -
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
I have read all of these passages numerous times. Yes, I do read the Bible.
spirit as they did.
David Miller
- Original Message -
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
You, David, may be DOING what the early church DID without MEANING what the
early church MEANT. On th
David, I'd say 'look in the mirror.
At least our concern seems mutual. :)
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: March 19, 2006 07:46
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
Lance wrote:
David:On warning (wo)men re:'transgre
Lance wrote:
> David:On warning (wo)men re:'transgressing
> the commandments of God'. Everyone
> (including you along with all of those within
> your sect, David) 'transgresses the commandments
> of God', David.
You appear to be using the word "sect" here rather loosely. I'm
anti-sectarian, rem
You, David, may be DOING what the early church DID without MEANING what the
early church MEANT. On this one DH may be closer to the truth than DM.
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: March 19, 2006 07:21
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] H
David Miller wrote:
>> Do you ever warn people about
>> the FIRE of hell?
DAVEH wrote:
> No, I don't do much preaching, and when
> I doI prefer to be more positive in my
> approach.
I guess the LDS organization has not restored the church then, eh? You are
not doing what the early church di
your sect concerning
this. Amen, I guess, for consistency if nothing else.
Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: March 18, 2006 16:11
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
Dave, for what it is worth, your view of hell is also shared by many
Prot
your view of hell is also shared by many
Protestants.
DAVEH: That is interestingthanx!
Do you ever warn people about the FIRE of
hell?
DAVEH: No, I don't do much preaching, and when I doI prefer to be
more positive in my approach.
David Miller wrote:
Dave, for what it is
Then perhaps the devil in the verse below is also figurative? What other portions do you find to be FIGURATIVE? What is the figurative significance of "they must go in to the place"? This would seem to imply being sent somewher. In one particular sentence, why is "lake of fire and brimstone"
onvey to people
the danger of transgressing the commandments of God?
David Miller
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM
I did think from previous encounters that you believed there w
I did think from previous encounters that you believed there
was no "literal" Hell.
DAVEH: Quite the contrary. As I view it, hell is the physical
separation from God and his love. The effect of such separation is
similar to how it would feel if you were cast into the burning garbage
dump o
I am sorry I did think from previous encounters that you believed there was no "literal" Hell. Are you saying then that it is not a place? It is not physical? When someone uses the term Literal that is synonomous with physical, perhaps, therein lies the confusion. If this "literal" Hell you
you have been decieved by the Devil
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree with you on that, Kevin. Quite the
contraryIn reality, I've been enlightened by a fellow TTer!
I don't know why it is so difficult for you to understand my
position on this, Kevin. I do believe in a literal hell
Kevin wrote:
> Then according to your own book you have
> been decieved by the Devil into thinking
> there is No literal Hell
Hi Kevin.
Why exactly are you convinced that there is a literal hell? Can you present
an argument for a literal hell for us?
David Miller
--
"Let your speech
Then according to your own book you have been decieved by the Devil into thinking there is No literal HellDave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH: You've surprised me, Kevin! I thought you'd want to defend your position using material favorable to your perspective...namely, the Bible. Bu
DAVEH: You've surprised me, Kevin! I thought you'd want to
defend your position using material favorable to your
perspective...namely, the Bible. But that is OK, as the LDS sources
you've quoted plainly show the symbolism of the terms used to describe
hell. Why you would quote some of th
Jacob 6:10 And according to the power of justice, for justice cannot be denied, ye must go away into that lake of fire and brimstone, whose flames are unquenchable, and whosesmoke ascendeth up forever and ever, which lake of fire and brimstone is endless torment. Alma 5:51-52 And also the Spiri
Are you saying I am thoughtLESS?
DAVEH: Lance is probably thinking less than you think, Kevin! ;-)
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Are you saying I am thoughtLESS?
Regular questions are intended to provoke answers
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
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http://www.langlitz.com
versation is possible. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 15, 2006 07:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] HellNo the conversation goes like this Men HATE the concept of a place of punishment for actual PEOPLE therefore they will do
is itself a lie/deception. That having been said then, no further conversation is possible. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 15, 2006 07:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] HellNo the conversation goes like this Men HATE the conce
DAVEH: Hadn't thought about it, Kevin. Post a passage and let's
examine it.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Is it figurative in the BoM too?
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
NOTE
to all TTers: I had attempted to post several responses that were
rejected. Most of them were about the previous
Yes.
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006 09:09
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
OH I see you are saying that what is true for one may be false for
another.
There is no objective truth
A thing may be
ssible.
- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 15, 2006 07:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] HellNo the conversation goes like this Men HATE the concept of a place of punishment for actual PEOPLE therefore they will do anything to overthrow that PLA
conversation is possible.
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 15, 2006 07:47
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
No the conversation goes like this Men HATE the concept of a place of
punishment for actual PEOPLE
eflect something negative concerning such an one? . - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 15, 2006 07:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] HellAnd Theologians revamp HELL before moving in Can't remember the authorLance M
Sent: March 15, 2006 07:16
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
And
Theologians revamp HELL before moving in
Can't remember the authorLance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Suggested
reading:1. 'Dare we Hope "That all men be Saved"? with a short d
And Theologians revamp HELL before moving in Can't remember the authorLance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Suggested reading:1. 'Dare we Hope "That all men be Saved"? with a short discourse on Hell - Hans Urs Von Balthasar2. 'Four Views on Hell' Counterpoints series3. 'The One Purpose of God'
Is it figurative in the BoM too?Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NOTE to all TTers: I had attempted to post several responses that were rejected. Most of them were about the previous situation, which is now less than pertinent, so there is no point in posting them. However, a couple of them
Suggested reading:
1. 'Dare we Hope "That all men be Saved"? with a short discourse on Hell -
Hans Urs Von Balthasar
2. 'Four Views on Hell' Counterpoints series
3. 'The One Purpose of God' An answer to the Doctrine of Eternal Punishment'
Jan Bonda
4. 'Hell': A Hard Look at a Hard Question - Th
But not all communication is truth.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ahhh Jt but, they are communicating God's truth. All truth is God's.
- Original Message -
From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 25, 2005 09:07
Subject:
Caroline wrote:
> Judgment and punishment yes but neither is conclusive
> that humans are judged and punished eternally in light
> of what Gehenna means. Do you have other
> verses?
Yes I do have other verses, but you are dismissing these Mark 9 passages too
quickly. Keep in mind that all passag
: [TruthTalk] Hell
Continue to live in denial.
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From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: April 24, 2005 11:32
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
> And what will YOU do if he
Continue to live in denial.
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From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: April 24, 2005 11:32
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
> And what will YOU do if he
available.
http://www.giantcompany.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:25 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
IMPLICATIONS IMPLICATIONS IFF He (Jesus) wasn't co
23, 2005 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
Caroline wrote:
The one in Revelation about the smoke that goes
on forever and the one in Matthew about the sheep
and goats. Were there other passages that you had
in mind?
Yes. Have you ever studied hell? How about starting with the passages in
Mark 9.
IMPLICATIONS IMPLICATIONS IFF He (Jesus) wasn't communicating what YOU
think He was communication then, what will you do?
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: April 23, 2005 22:24
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
> Car
Caroline wrote:
> The one in Revelation about the smoke that goes
> on forever and the one in Matthew about the sheep
> and goats. Were there other passages that you had
> in mind?
Yes. Have you ever studied hell? How about starting with the passages in
Mark 9.
Mark 9:42-48
(42) And whosoever
The one in Revelation about the smoke that goes on forever and the one in
Matthew about the sheep and goats. Were there other passages that you had in
mind?
Love
Caroline
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 3:48 PM
Subject: [
ory loss? It is certainly not because
I have not justified my postion, and on several occasions.
Please check the TT archives and get back to me on that, okay?
Perry
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.or
-- "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Your mind has been polluted by the heretical LDS
works. If you relied on his Word you would clearly see that your impressions
of God are all wrong.
BLAINE: I keep noticing that you do a lot of labeling, usually in reference to
LDS stuff, P
In a message dated 3/18/2005 12:15:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perry writes to Dave:
You won't find the meat of the truth in the LDS works.
Actually, it is better said "You won't find the meat of the truth in ... works."
JD
Dave Hansen wrote:
Terry Clifton wrote:
Charles
Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
Read the Bible, Dave. It tells it all.
Perry
Sounds like good advice, Dave. I wouldn't dismiss it lightly.
Terry
DAVEH
Terry Clifton wrote:
Charles
Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
Read the Bible, Dave. It tells it all.
Perry
Sounds like good advice, Dave. I wouldn't dismiss it lightly.
Terry
DAVEH: OK Terry..rather tha
o recently
admonished...
Read the Bible, Dave. It tells it all.
...But I suppose you are viewing it from a higher perspective, eh
Perry.
but I am forgiven. And I know it. "For the Bible tells me
so".
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In a message dated 3/17/2005 12:44:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(leave g outa this, pls:)
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:25:07 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>The little 'g' god, the god of Mormonism is NOT the big 'G',
>the God of the Bible. You ar
(just ignore this--it ain't that
pretty at all g :)
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:42:08 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(leave g outa this, pls:)
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:25:07 -0800
"Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>The little 'g' god, the god of Mormonism is
NO
(leave g outa this, pls:)
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:25:07 -0800
"Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>The little 'g' god, the god of Mormonism is
NOT the big 'G',
>the God of the Bible. You are
confusing the two. They are >not the same. Your little 'g' god may be a
warm fuzzy
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
We are talking obtusely here. The little 'g' god, the god of
Mormonism is NOT the big 'G', the God of the Bible. You are confusing
the two. They are not the same. Your little 'g' god may be a warm
fuzzy parent to you, but don't confuse him with the big 'G' God
. My understanding of theology is not perfect,
but I am forgiven. And I know it. "For the Bible tells me so".
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell = Physical Torture?
Date:
Caroline:
> But what did the OT writers and readers understand
> sheol to be?
They had various understandings of it just as the writers and readers of
today have different understandings.
Caroline wrote:
> And what did the first century Jew understand
> Hades to be? Did Jesus spend some time exp
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