Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/17/2004 7:31:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Miller wrote: >>Come to think of it, Jesus was not an author.  :-) John wrote: >Actually, He is the author of the book of >Revelation, is He not? I guess I can see how you might argue this from the fi

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/17/2004 7:23:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John wrote: >David,  why in the world can you not simply say, >"I think this is wrong?"  I don't understand why >you persist on couching the views of others, >views you disagree with, in complete opposition

RE: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
Not to be greedy, but couldn't you do both? :-) Izzy -Original Message- Would you prefer me not to reply, but instead use my time to write some articles to post here from time to time? I have been considering that such might be a better use of my time right now. I have two articles on

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-17 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Come to think of it, Jesus was not an author. :-) John wrote: Actually, He is the author of the book of Revelation, is He not? I guess I can see how you might argue this from the first verse of Revelation, but I think we have to say that John authored Revelation. If we think

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-17 Thread David Miller
John wrote: David, why in the world can you not simply say, "I think this is wrong?" I don't understand why you persist on couching the views of others, views you disagree with, in complete opposition to the biblical message. I do not characterize all views as anathema. I characterized the viewp

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-17 Thread Susan Petersen
Actually, Jesus is the author of the whole Bible. 2 Timothy 3:16- All scripture is God breathed... He just used man to write it down for other people. Suzy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:01:11 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Come to

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-17 Thread Lance Muir
ï 'should not be taken personally' The word 'person' is of  significance in understanding 'One God, three persons' . - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 16, 2004 18:12 Subject: [TruthTalk] Self-deception From: "David Mi

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/16/2004 2:10:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are plenty of folks on this list and elsewhere in this world who hate me greatly. There is NO ONE on this list who hates you  --  not one.   Repent. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:01:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Come to think of it, Jesus was not an author.  :-) Actyally, He is the author of the book of Revelation, is He not? JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/16/2004 10:40:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Such a viewpoint is anathema. >It denies the gospel.  It denies the righteousness of Christ," verses  --  "As for Lance, however, you AGAIN clearly misread what I wrote because I do not consider Lance to

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread ttxpress
ï     ?   On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:01:47 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:|| >These conversations should never be taken personally. ||

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread David Miller
Jonathan wrote: I believe that there is a relational aspect that needs to be forged prior to the logical being effective. It is this relational aspect that you lack with John and Lance. If they do not feel that you are giving credence to their thoughts or 'listening' it becomes a tit for tat, back

RE: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Today I have learned a new concept on TT: "scripture bombs".  Izzy   -Original Message- A number of scripture bombs are placed usually at the end of the email to enforce that it is not just your opinion, but God's.    Jonathan    

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: David, seriously, please identify 15-20 authors who've influenced you. It would be an aid. Plleese? I suspect the following isn't what you want, but Moses Job David Solomon Isaiah Jeremiah Ezekiel Daniel Hosea Joel Amos Obadiah Micah Nahum Habakkuk

RE: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Hughes Jonathan
;s interpretation of a certain doctrine. Judy and I often disagree; yesterday, although we were not in unison, we were united. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Lance Muir
No. David, seriously, please identify 15-20 authors who've influenced you. It would be an aid. Plleese? . From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: November 16, 2004 14:35 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sel

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Will you kindly write for us an underived paragraph? I just did. Those were my thoughts, not something derived from someone else. This does not mean that other people have not influenced my thinking in years past, but it means that I do not simply parrot others in the ideas and th

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Lance Muir
DM:Will you kindly write for us an underived paragraph? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: November 16, 2004 13:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception > John wrote: > > Could it be that KB expr

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread David Miller
John wrote: Could it be that KB expresses that which Lance believes? David, you might try responding to those words, included by Lance, and see what Lance has to say rather than resorting to the kind of criticism, disguised as honest (no doubt) advice., as is recorded above. You the Teacher -- La

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Lance Muir
7;ve every written a thought which was truly and genuinely original so, don't be frightened of Karl. He was probably the greatest theologian since Athanasius. From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: November 16, 2004 10:46 Subject: Re: [T

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/16/2004 7:47:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please try, in your reading of others, to incorporate the truth they share into your own thinking processes.  Reject that which is not true.  Formulate a way of thinking that is your own, that does not rely

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: I recently inserted a quotation from KB that addressed this very matter under 'ADDENDUM'. This list is meant to discuss what YOU believe. If KB were here, we could talk with him about it, but he is not. Nevertheless, you think he expressed something that you could not, so let's exa

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: You are 'kin' to Rosanne Roseannadanna.There is either a misapplication or misapprehension of the heart of a matter under discussion. One major difference between yourself an RR is that when, as I see it, the matter is clarified, RR said either 'never mind' or 'well, it's always someth

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks three-named mystery man. - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: November 16, 2004 08:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception > Lance, I believe it was Emily Latella, another Gilda Radner char

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Lance, I believe it was Emily Latella, another Gilda Radner character, that said "Never Mind". You are right about RR saying "It's always something". From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subjec

Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception

2004-11-16 Thread Lance Muir
You are 'kin' to Rosanne Roseannadanna.There is either a misapplication or misapprehension of the heart of a matter under discussion. One major difference between yourself an RR is that when, as I see it, the matter is clarified, RR said either 'never mind' or 'well, it's always something', you jus