[twitter-dev] Re: getting close.. i think, now only receiving incorrect signature error

2010-06-12 Thread Michael Cameron
This is all resolved!! The oauth_version was the second parameter, and i ensured the correct path was done api.twitter.com/1/statuses/update.xml I want to say thank you to all the people that have helped me here on twiter dev talk. esp Taylor!!! Thanks guys!!! On Jun 10, 3:55 pm, Michael Cameron

[twitter-dev] Re: Python Twitter

2010-06-12 Thread pythonista
Great, Josh, I'll check that out. Thank you On Jun 12, 7:50 pm, Josh Roesslein wrote: > I author a library called Tweepy [1] that works fine with OAuth. > > [1]http://github.com/joshthecoder/tweepy > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:39 PM, pythonista wrote: > > Hello, > >  I am using the simplegeo fo

Re: [twitter-dev] Python Twitter

2010-06-12 Thread Josh Roesslein
I author a library called Tweepy [1] that works fine with OAuth. [1] http://github.com/joshthecoder/tweepy On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:39 PM, pythonista wrote: > Hello, > I am using the simplegeo fork of python-oauth2, and it is working > fine. > > However, I then realize it doesn't contain API

[twitter-dev] Python Twitter

2010-06-12 Thread pythonista
Hello, I am using the simplegeo fork of python-oauth2, and it is working fine. However, I then realize it doesn't contain API calls to actually send tweets. Anyone know of a particular Api wrapper that has updated its code, so that calls are made using the token/token secret that is now mandator

[twitter-dev] Only getting up to page 5 on user_timeline

2010-06-12 Thread invadermedia
I can't access past page 5 on any account when I'm checking for 200 tweets at a time. Page 6 returns no tweets. I should be able to access up to 16 pages to get 3200 tweets. I have been able to retrieve that up until I tried again Friday. Is this a temporary limit? Here is an example: http://api.

[twitter-dev] Error 500 after xAuth authentication

2010-06-12 Thread rocodromo
I got an error 500 after I get the authentication (from https://api.twitter.com/oauth/access_token). I get this error while trying to contact https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/home_timeline.json. I'm using xAuth and - I'm using SSL - I'm using the header-based OAuth (which is OAuth oauth_consumer

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Bernd Stramm
Right, and... On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Jef Poskanzer wrote: > You know, it's right there in the OAuth RFC. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5849#section-4.6 > > 4.6. Secrecy of the Client Credentials > >In many cases, the client application will be under the control of >

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Quoting funkatron : Yeah, it's really the step of manually getting that long string of seemingly-random characters from one app to another. a callback url makes sense for web-based apps. Something like PIN auth that would allow a desktop/mobile app to make an HTTP call and recover the string pr

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Jef Poskanzer
You know, it's right there in the OAuth RFC. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5849#section-4.6 4.6. Secrecy of the Client Credentials In many cases, the client application will be under the control of potentially untrusted parties. For example, if the client is a desktop application with

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Zac Bowling
On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: >> I've been pondering how you could solve this from my experience with >> solving these issues with SSL/TLS. One idea is having a sort of >> delegation chain where I could generate a new delegated secret for >> each copy of my app I distribute rathe

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:25:44 -0700 Zac Bowling wrote: > On Jun 12, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Jef Poskanzer wrote: > > Application authors are being asked to devote substantial resources > > to the OAuth conversion, but OAuth provides no security for > > application authors! > > It does from a web app p

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> Yeah, it's really the step of manually getting that long string of > seemingly-random characters from one app to another. a callback url > makes sense for web-based apps. > > Something like PIN auth that would allow a desktop/mobile app to make > an HTTP call and recover the string programatical

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread funkatron
Yeah, it's really the step of manually getting that long string of seemingly-random characters from one app to another. a callback url makes sense for web-based apps. Something like PIN auth that would allow a desktop/mobile app to make an HTTP call and recover the string programatically would be

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Zac Bowling
On Jun 12, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Jef Poskanzer wrote: > Application authors are being asked to devote substantial resources to > the OAuth conversion, but OAuth provides no security for application > authors! It does from a web app perspective which is the primary design goal of OAuth since there wo

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I think you're missing the point, Taylor. It's not a matter of > validation, but actually being able to copy such a long string. I have > trouble with this on mobile, and I think I'm a pretty savvy user. I > *guarantee* you the rate of failure, and giving up on the process > entirely, will be muc

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread funkatron
I think you're missing the point, Taylor. It's not a matter of validation, but actually being able to copy such a long string. I have trouble with this on mobile, and I think I'm a pretty savvy user. I *guarantee* you the rate of failure, and giving up on the process entirely, will be much higher t

[twitter-dev] "Could not authenticate you" using OAUTH POST

2010-06-12 Thread Boopathi
Hi, We are getting following response {"request":"/1/statuses/retweet/15918472331.json","error":"Could not authenticate with OAuth."} for RETWEET using XAUTH implementation. We could not figure out what may be the possible reason for this error. I also get similar error while accessing the DIR

Re: [twitter-dev] Web Application talking to twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Matt Harris
Hi Vijay, If you only want access to your own account then you can visit the application details for your application on http://dev.twitter.com/apps. On that page you will find an option called My Access Token. This option will display the user token and secret for you to be able to access your ap

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread nov
I love this idea! But why don't you use verifier instead of such a long string? ck=KIyzzZUM7KvKYOpnst2aOw&cs=4PQk1eH4MadmzzEZ1G1KdrWHIFC1IPxv1kXZg0G3E&at=5 42212- utEhFTv5GZZcc2R4w6thnApKtf1N1eKRedcFJthdeA&ats=FFdeOEwxOBWPPREd55 dKx7AAaI8NfpK7xnibv4Yls I don't want to copy&paste such a string

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Jef Poskanzer
On Jun 12, 11:49 am, Bernd Stramm wrote: > secure against what? The threat that OAuth's security-through-obscurity fails to protect against is rogue-app B doing something bad while using legit-app A's stolen credentials. The author of app A gets blamed for app B's bad behavior and app A gets shu

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:48:15 -0700 Zac Bowling wrote: > Yes, that is a problem with any app that you distribute that has any > embedded keys. Unfortunately, you ultimately can't really entirely > secure anything you ship that a user can run on their own machine. > You can however take a few steps

RE: [twitter-dev] Kwwika - World Cup Web Development competition announced using Twitter World Cup data

2010-06-12 Thread Dean Collins
Hi Phil, Check out the twitter integration with www.LiveWorldCupChat.com if that's what you want. Cheers, Dean > -Original Message- > From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development- > t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Leggetter > Sent: Saturday, 1

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Jef Poskanzer
On Jun 12, 10:16 am, Taylor Singletary wrote: > (This is the other side of the coin.. on one side of the coin you have the > advantage that OAuth applications keep working even if the user changes > their password (YAY!) and then you have on the side of the coin that OAuth > applications keep work

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Taylor Singletary
Yes, this is correct. To perform this key exchange, a consumer key (API key) with this feature enabled is all that's required to be stored in your open source app. Some other interesting facts: - A parent application can only spawn 1 version of itself for a user. If the user repeats the flow, t

Re: [twitter-dev] Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Taylor Singletary
Regarding the user being able to set the source tag themselves: they will be able to -- the application created for the user is totally their application. They can change the name of the application to anything they want (within the same rules as any application name on the platform). The WordPres

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread bytespider
I may be being naive but i fail to see the fill issues with having the key and secret public. What are they going to do with it? the user would still have to agree to use the app in question that is posing as a legitimate app. The genuine app only needs to get a new secret once a vulnerability is

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Zac Bowling
Yes, that is a problem with any app that you distribute that has any embedded keys. Unfortunately, you ultimately can't really entirely secure anything you ship that a user can run on their own machine. You can however take a few steps to make that extremely difficult by encrypting and obfuscati

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Jef Poskanzer
>obfuscate your code (compiling, or intentional obfuscation) So OAuth's security is based on obscurity? That's pretty lame.

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread funkatron
As it was explained to me (I think the API team would do well by discussing this stuff out in the open so we don't have to answer for them), the concern is having keys available in plain text. with OSS, you have that in 1, and potentially 2, situations: 1: Source code distributions/repos 2: end-us

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread funkatron
A solution, maybe, for desktop folks who can C+P a large string (although I'm willing to bet you'll have a lot of breakdown there), but it will fail miserably on mobile apps. The string is way, way too long. This will get screwed up badly by non-technical users. (Yes, some people make open-source

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> Sorry over looked the access token being included. I still do not think this > fits well with open source > desktop apps. I think for now just not distributing a key with the app's > source, but provide it when the app > is built (hidden in the binary or such). That works fine with binaries, but

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Josh Roesslein
Sorry over looked the access token being included. I still do not think this fits well with open source desktop apps. I think for now just not distributing a key with the app's source, but provide it when the app is built (hidden in the binary or such). On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Cameron Ka

[twitter-dev] Kwwika - World Cup Web Development competition announced using Twitter World Cup data

2010-06-12 Thread Phil Leggetter
Hello all! I'm working on a project called Kwwika which allows anybody to add real-time push functionality to your website. To try and get people developing using Kwwika we've decided to create a competition that will hopefully encourage web developers to sign up for the opportunity of winning an

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> Not sure I totally like this idea. Seems almost like double authentication > to me. > The user has to still sign in via the web to replicate the app and then we > have to fetch an access token > again by asking for their credentials?? So its like doing a 3-legged dance + > the xAuth. No. The pro

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Josh Roesslein
Not sure I totally like this idea. Seems almost like double authentication to me. The user has to still sign in via the web to replicate the app and then we have to fetch an access token again by asking for their credentials?? So its like doing a 3-legged dance + the xAuth. I really question the s

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> @taylor > So key exchange is done based on consumer key only.(No need to verify the > signature?.Makes sense as this is distributed )So any abuse by the end user > will only lead to the ban of child app ? (assuming the final auth requests > are signed by the generated secrets (chid app secret and

[twitter-dev] troubles with whitelisting request

2010-06-12 Thread PeterQ
Hello! I got troubles with whitelisting request I filled form to get more request per hour for my project about 30 or 35 days ago for the first time and about 5 or 6 days ago for the second time. I receiver two e-mails in response: "Hi [myusername], Thanks for requesting to be on Twitter's API

[twitter-dev] follow API can't work?

2010-06-12 Thread bruce zhang
Hi,guys when I call the follow API,it returns "/1/notifications/ follow.xml Not found"! Does it means follow API can't work? How should I do? Thank you all!:)

[twitter-dev] Web Application talking to twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Vijay
Hi, Pardon my ignorance here as a 1st time poster. My actual requirement: My web app using jQuery/Juitter needs to access my twitter account's private List of people I am following. I am trying to use a proxy service with a java servlet on the serverside to access the Twitter API.Basic Auth is no

[twitter-dev] Safari Extension, Twitter Authentification?

2010-06-12 Thread Henning
Hey, ich want to write a Safari Twitter Extension. Ok everything fine, but i don't know the right way to authenticate with Twitter. I think OAuth isn't the right way, am i right? I want to update my status with Username & Password stored in the Extension Properties. Can i do a authentication just

Re: [twitter-dev] Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Zac Bowling
Interesting idea. I didn't think it was to hard if you had user that was fiddling with your source to just have him generate his own keys and while I just compile my keys into my official binary builds but I guess for scripting based clients, this makes sense. I guess you get the attribution a

[twitter-dev] Re: link wrapping on the API

2010-06-12 Thread Gil
Hi, Is it possible to get those links when using the user_timeline REST API: http://twitter.com/status/user_timeline/{user}.json?count=5&callback=? The returned result doesn't give you any links - the http/https and the links to other twitter accounts are just as plain text. I need a simple way

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread srikanth reddy
If the attacker does that, the loser is only that user but not the app (parent app) Basically this idea is to shield the apps from being misused. @taylor So key exchange is done based on consumer key only.(No need to verify the signature?.Makes sense as this is distributed )So any abuse by the en

[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-06-12 Thread Jef Poskanzer
I don't understand why you are suggesting this only for open source programs. Were you thinking that an attacker would be incapable of decompiling an executable and extracting the secret?