Re: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO

2005-10-07 Thread Mark Johnson
Some versions of BASIC have POP whereby one return address is removed from the stack. Sort of like a RERETURN. Glad we don't have that one. My 1 cent. - Original Message - From: "Keith W. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:16 PM Subject: RE: [U2] more serio

Re: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Mark Johnson
I've actually run into a program with 10 READV's, some processing then 10 WRITEV's for the obvious same record in the same file. Is the OCONV(translate) function any more or less effecient in BASIC than in English (sic). I use them for simple validation or to retrieve one field with no side effect

Re: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Mark Johnson
I agree. That's what we consultants are for. To help our clients make intelligent decisions. - Original Message - From: "Larry Hiscock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS > Sometimes you have to educate your clients as to what t

Re: [U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO

2005-10-07 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Debster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Something most programmers hate to write Not *nearly* as much as non-integrated documentation. At least if the docs are in the program it's easier to keep them up to date. (And with tools like Javadoc, you get neat HTML formated documentation out of the

RE: [U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO

2005-10-07 Thread Debster
Something most programmers hate to write -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gordon J Glorfield Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:24 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO And what

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Larry Hiscock
Sometimes you have to educate your clients as to what they "want". Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Nichol Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:36 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE:

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Bruce Nichol
Goo'day, At 14:50 07/10/05 -0700, you wrote: Being independent, you have to listen to what the *client* wants. Do they need me to spend an additional 40 hours at $110 an hour to make something run faster? Most clients say N!! My customers say it louder than that.. Al

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
Amen. Allow me to add that often the decision to replace an MV database with an RDBMS hinges on, "what do you mean I need 5 times as much hardware/horsepower to run Oracle?". "Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt th

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Allen E. Elwood
>As long as programmers think that way, their employers will continue to >pay people like me big bucks to come in and make the code more efficient. Like I said, at 175 an hour the ***client*** preferred the quickest coding method. So sometimes you get the big bucks to save time in **programming**

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Timothy Snyder
"Allen E. Elwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/07/2005 12:53:47 PM: > The way I look at it, when I started programming 30 years ago systems were > millions of times slower, and in another 30 years they'll be so stinking > fast that coding for speed will go the way of the Suchomimus and the > I

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Glenn Herbert
Why do you believe doing this (Logto followed by LIST VOC...) would work ( I don't think it will)? I think you might have misunderstood what I meant by "exiting the account" - that would be using QUIT. I guess I should have been more clear by saying "quitting universe". ___

RE: [U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO

2005-10-07 Thread Gordon J Glorfield
And what is "high-level integrated documentation"? Gordon J. Glorfield Sr. Applications Developer MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company) 301-360-8839 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/07/2005 02:44:34 PM: > What is a Universe flow diagram? > > -Original Message- > > From: Bill Lockwood [SMTP:[EMAI

RE: [U2] Unidata TCL - beginner question

2005-10-07 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Never seen a single burp in sorting ever. If you just eliminate the DET.SUP you'll see the detail, and can then compare to the DET.SUP errors to confirm if the sorting is wrong, or if maybe it just doesn't work. You could always fall back and punt by completing the messing sections of the program

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Hey Keith, That's a really great idea, but why not just add it to the LOGIN paragraph? (it's in the VOC on Unidata systems) Then you won't have to stub the LOGTO command! Allen www.tortillafc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith W. Robe

RE: [U2] Unidata TCL - beginner question

2005-10-07 Thread Bruce Ordway
>SORT filename BY Part BY Date @ID BREAK.ON Part Date DET.SUP< BTW, I thought this worked to begin with. Then, I started noticing it wasn't really. I keep getting dates in the middle of the range for some parts. Just so happens I'm working on a huge file, 886817 records. I wonder if Unidata SORT's

RE: [U2] Visual Schema Generator 'unable to open dictionary of sysobjects'

2005-10-07 Thread colin.alfke
I thought it would the first time you connected to the account. There are a number of files that it sets up. Perhaps one of the (or it's VOC entry) existed and so it didn't create them. I do know that if you connect VSG to an account created under some previous version that you get a message about

RE: [U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO

2005-10-07 Thread Caryl Lange
Guess they won't hire you! :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:45 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO What is a Univers

RE: [U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO

2005-10-07 Thread GarryS
What is a Universe flow diagram? > -Original Message- > From: Bill Lockwood [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:39 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO snippet > Experience wit

Re: [U2] Visual Schema Generator 'unable to open dictionary of sysobjects'

2005-10-07 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does the D_sysobjects file exist and does your ID have permissions to r/w it? Nope... no dictionaries, no files, no VOC pointers for the sys* files. I'm under the impression that VSG is supposed to create them. Is that not true? -- Wendy Smoak --- u2-users ma

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread George Gallen
hmm. The fact that the files are cached makes it nicer. I didn't want to use it inside a loop (TRANS() that is), and waste a lot of time with repeated OPEN/READs, in that case I'd have done an OPEN, then used READS. But if the OPEN is cached, great, it's just like doing the OPEN once. Since this

[U2] Senior Pick Programming Position - Centennial, CO

2005-10-07 Thread Bill Lockwood
Trust Company of America, a leading provider of financial services nationwide, has an immediate opening for a Senior Multivalue Database Programmer / Analyst. This position is located in Centennial, Colorado on the southeast edge of the Denver Metro Area. The ideal candidate for this position wi

RE: [U2] Visual Schema Generator 'unable to open dictionary of sysobjects'

2005-10-07 Thread colin.alfke
Does the D_sysobjects file exist and does your ID have permissions to r/w it? Hth Colin Alfke Calgary Canada - where at least it's not snowing today >-Original Message- >From: Wendy Smoak > >I'm trying (first time) to use VSG on an account, and all it will do is >complain: 'Unable to op

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Keith W. Roberts
Possible workaround? Whenever you LOGTO, do a LIST VOC SAMPLE 1 (HUSHed) to change the file and record pointers. -Keith Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Herbert Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; u2-users@lis

[U2] Visual Schema Generator 'unable to open dictionary of sysobjects'

2005-10-07 Thread Wendy Smoak
I'm trying (first time) to use VSG on an account, and all it will do is complain: 'Unable to open dictionary of sysobjects'. All I can find online is a post on the u2ug forums from a person who had the same problem a while ago. I also consulted our VAR's knowledge base, and found an article

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Hey George, I've always established dict names using TRANS in the base file, and then created my SUBR type DICT and passed them that way. It just makes it *so* much easier to code, and have really never noticed any difference between the TRANS method or using OPEN and READS. Plus most of the tim

[U2] FW: Setting up printers on UV PE under windows XP

2005-10-07 Thread Eric Limbeek
I've been struggling to set up a printer. After much tweaking and twiddling, I finally can actually see the printer in U2ADMIN, but still can't seem to get anything to print to it. Does anyone have a manual/ link to information to get this done? Is there some magic piece I'm missing? Thanks Eric

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Glenn Herbert
You are 100% correct and this is a known issue (to me anyways). The cache is only flushed when exiting the account or when you return back to TCL. Unfortunately, there is no direct way to call the internal transclear() function. ___

RE: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO

2005-10-07 Thread Keith W. Roberts
I'll second that sentiment. At first I liked the idea of the RETURN TO and used it. I got bit bad by the fact that this routine was called from another routine, which means that RETURNing TO the mainline left a return jump address on the stack ... which meant that the mainline RETURN did *not* re

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-07 Thread George Gallen
You mean Ponch used Pick?! Must have missed that episode. Boy, that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside! George -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith W. Roberts Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:46 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sub

Re: [U2] [OT] Tally line printer escape sequences

2005-10-07 Thread Simon Lewington
Dave I'm afraid I've had no luck getting the customer (who has the printer) to test this properly. They only use this printer for payroll runs, and the default font is OK for this. I set up a quick fix of no escape sequences at all which works for this specific requirement, and now they've got t

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-07 Thread Keith W. Roberts
When I worked for Pr1me Computers in the L.A. region, two of our biggest INFORMATION customers were the California Highway Patrol and the L.A. Sheriff's Dept. ... but somehow I tried to stay away from running into them outside of the office. :) -Keith Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [U2] Unidata TCL - beginner question

2005-10-07 Thread Bruce Ordway
>What you are looking for is the MAX verb. You would use it thus:< >LIST file.name PART MAX DATE DET.SUP< I'm on HPUX 11 & Unidata 5.2. There doesn't seem to be a MAX available. However, I do see a basic function called MAXIMUM(). I wonder if I could create a Virtual field using this to give me th

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread BNeylon
Our system has many accounts with, basically, the same file names, layouts, etc. We found a problem with using the translate rather than open/read in programs. If a program logs from account to account and accesses info with a trans, the trans doesn't always open and read the file in the new a

RE: [U2] How to Default NO.RETURN.WARN in Universe

2005-10-07 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
Yes you're right. I never knew about that one. It works just as well. Thanks Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Louis Windsor Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:55 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] How to Default

RE: [U2] OPEN vs TRANS

2005-10-07 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
When I use TRANS in i-descriptors and I need more than one field, I grab the whole @RECORD, then EXTRACT multiple times. I'm not really a programmer (obviously), but wouldn't the same hold true in a program? ... One thing that kills me is seeing I-descriptors that do something like '... IF(TRANS

Re: [U2] How to Default NO.RETURN.WARN in Universe

2005-10-07 Thread Louis Windsor
I may be wrong but I seem to remember that if you hit "N" at any warning no further "hit any key" will be prompted for. Louis - Original Message - From: "Anthony Dzikiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: RE: [U2] How to Default NO.RETURN.WARN i

RE: [U2] How to Default NO.RETURN.WARN in Universe

2005-10-07 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
This works for me. I believe I tried to issue this on the command line, but I had the syntax wrong. What Im doing is compiling the whole account (1000+ programs) and it becomes a pain to keep hitting 'any key' for the RETURN warnings. So, this works fine doing BASIC BP * +$NO.RETURN.WARN. Tha