Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, > I'm afraid, with this final rush, that we will end up releasing Dapper > with all of the old Gnome default theme crap I wanted to remove, along > with a few new but not very well thought through or complete themes. héhé ! Microsoft is not the only one to report their release ^^ Étienne

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Billy wrote: Yes, I understand all of that, I was just curious about going from 2 or 3 to just 1 or 2, so soon :D Hmm... depends how optimistic I'm feeling when I hit send. Call it "1", and if it looks like the team can handle more, "2". We have very tight constraints on space on the C

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Ben Pygall
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam Viper550 wrote: Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road! OK. During UDS-Paris in June we can draft up:  - an art team governance plan (roles, responsibilities, appointments for Edgy)  - a plan of record for Hum

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Michiel Sikma
> Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Basically, I will be expecting art team members to chip in and help get those themes to completion and not to arbitrarily throw in "cute but totally incomplete" images. In other words, we need to pick a few specific battles to fight, then get organised into battalio

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Billy
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:41 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Viper550 wrote: Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road!

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Viper550 wrote: Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road! OK. During UDS-Paris in June we can draft up:  - an art team governance plan (roles, responsibilities, appoi

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Billy
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Viper550 wrote: Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road! OK. During UDS-Paris in June we can draft up:  - an art team governance plan (roles, responsibilities, appoint

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Viper550 wrote: Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road! OK. During UDS-Paris in June we can draft up:  - an art team governance plan (roles, responsibilities, appointments for Edgy)  - a plan of record for Human, Tangerine and perhaps one other community

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Viper550
Billy wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:05 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Billy wrote: Deadlines and assignees will not be useful for 5 months. Got any examples of Teams using these features effectively that do not need the features? The art team doesn't need bug reporting tools,

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Billy
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:05 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Billy wrote: Deadlines and assignees will not be useful for 5 months. Got any examples of Teams using these features effectively that do not need the features? The art team doesn't need bug reporting tools, for examp

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Billy
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: I did ask the admin of the previous launchpad artwork team to add other people as admins. It never got done (joelM!!!) so have done it myself now. No need to create a whole new team, that's just confusing! Yes you did. Is t

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Billy wrote: Again, they are not a result of the artwork but the code elsewhere. Plainly stated in the bug reports. I one saw a bad svg icon crash nautilus in the lila-brown theme. It was the fault of Inkscape and svg libs, not the artist using the app and the libs. Nonetheless. They ca

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Billy
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: It is extremly rare that artwork is the cause of any true bug. Totally untrue. We are having a flurry of bugs show up now because of new artwork. Not just bugs in the artwork itself, but interesting interactions

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Billy wrote: Deadlines and assignees will not be useful for 5 months. Got any examples of Teams using these features effectively that do not need the features? The art team doesn't need bug reporting tools, for example. Again, what features are useful for the ArtTeam? Billy, you are com

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I did ask the admin of the previous launchpad artwork team to add other people as admins. It never got done (joelM!!!) so have done it myself now. No need to create a whole new team, that's just confusing! I have also changed the default subscription and renewal period to be 365 days - it was

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Billy
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 18:03 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: On Sat, 2006-27-05 at 19:51 -0500, Billy wrote: > See, that's what I'm talking about. Henrik has his own job to do as > ubuntu admin. He is not a leader of the ArtTeam. We don't have a > leader for the ArtTeam. It has been strongly

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Dennis Kaarsemaker
On za, 2006-05-27 at 19:33 -0500, Billy wrote: > Agreed! No one stepped up to the the plate when Mark asked. Now > everyone is swinging at every pitch and striking out. Instead of > calmly waiting for a meeting to obtain agreed focus and structure, > people are implimenting, moving and renaming on

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Billy
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 15:36 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: On Sat, 2006-27-05 at 14:20 -0700, Brian Burger wrote: > Having an art team entry in Launchpad is useful for bug reporting, if > nothing else. The wiki is far more flexible for displaying draft > artwork, brainstorming, and all the

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, > Please cooperate instead of compete. Why not drop > this new team and make sure the other works correctly? I think that the best solution should be to have one team on launchpad. Just about the name, i prefer ubuntu-artwork to ubuntu-art (like edubuntu-artwork which seems quite well orga

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Who
On 5/27/06, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, while I do not have any personal admin experience in launchpad, > JoelM made it clear that as an admin nothing works for him in > launchpad, so before we run down yet another dead end road, someone > needs to make sure it actually

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Troy James Sobotka
On Sat, 2006-27-05 at 14:20 -0700, Brian Burger wrote: > Having an art team entry in Launchpad is useful for bug reporting, if > nothing else. The wiki is far more flexible for displaying draft > artwork, brainstorming, and all the other stuff that goes on there. Agree 100%. Launchpad has speci

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Troy James Sobotka
> Also, while I do not have any personal admin experience in launchpad, > JoelM made it clear that as an admin nothing works for him in > launchpad, so before we run down yet another dead end road, someone > needs to make sure it actually functions correctly. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Billy
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 14:20 -0700, Brian Burger wrote: On 5/27/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's also extremely slow. No one communicates through the wiki so I don't see what this will do for art. What features are useful? Mailing list is fine. Want more?..stick with

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Brian Burger
On 5/27/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's also extremely slow. No one communicates through the wiki so I don't see what this will do for art. What features are useful? Mailing list is fine. Want more?..stick with  the wiki, or cancel the wiki and go launchpad or something. If the wiki still

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Billy
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 15:34 -0500, Billy wrote: On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 12:35 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: Launchpad has a ton of useful features. Unfortunately, the ubuntu-art team apparently has one admin who is too busy. To this end, there is a fresh Ubuntu Artwork Team launc

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Dennis Kaarsemaker
On za, 2006-05-27 at 12:35 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: > To this end, there is a fresh Ubuntu Artwork Team > launched at launchpad. It has several admins to > prevent useless bottlenecks. That's ridiculous... Please cooperate instead of compete. Why not drop this new team and make sure the

Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Billy
On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 12:35 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: Launchpad has a ton of useful features. Unfortunately, the ubuntu-art team apparently has one admin who is too busy. To this end, there is a fresh Ubuntu Artwork Team launched at launchpad. It has several admins to prevent usele

[ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: ArtworkTeam

2006-05-27 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Launchpad has a ton of useful features. Unfortunately, the ubuntu-art team apparently has one admin who is too busy. To this end, there is a fresh Ubuntu Artwork Team launched at launchpad. It has several admins to prevent useless bottlenecks. Further, the contact list for email is set to none