[Bug 1] Re: Bug #1: Microsoft has a majority market share

> > It takes a while to dig into a project and although I have invested a few > time for 2 or 3 projects to fix a few bugs, I cannot dig into every project > where I find bugs. I have to rely on others fixing it The point isn't that you should try to fix everything yourself, but that always have m

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

On 11/10/2011 11:47 AM, Martin Wildam wrote: > On iphone or Android there is no taskbar at all and guess: Nobody is seeing > that as a core issue. And on motorcycles there is no wiper control. Comparing phones and computers is about the same as cars and motorcycles. Very different use and appl

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Am 10.11.2011 17:36 schrieb "houstonbofh" <1...@bugs.launchpad.net>: > Short version, while there are some changes, most things are standard. > There is a reason for this. I do not consider the taskbar position so important as gas and break in a car. Compare it to old-style gear and automatic - a

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

On 11/10/2011 04:36 AM, Martin Wildam wrote: > Similar applies when people change car manufacturer after many years. A lot > of small things are different when you change car, but in general you can > drive it. Whether the taskbar is on the bottom or on the left, is the least > important difference

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I fully second that. Build to make Ubuntu more robust before adding features. Le 02/11/2010 05:01, Martin Wildam a écrit : > So please, please, focus more on bug fixing than on introducing new > user ui, which already is really good! > Fabien Basmaison -- Microsoft

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Because of the latest problems with network-manager I tried wicd - and bum - next bug report. Currently I think I could spend the whole day with bug reporting... - that is sad... -- Martin Wildam http://www.google.com/profiles/mwildam -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launch

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On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 22:49, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I am getting most of my people to stick with 10.04 (LTS).  I will be trying > out > a few newer releases but only on a spare partition especially at first. I am also on 10.04 - although 9.10 would have been the better LTS. Plea

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I am getting most of my people to stick with 10.04 (LTS). I will be trying out a few newer releases but only on a spare partition especially at first. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

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I agree. I tried running the Unity on Maverick on the 2004 laptop with P4 and Radeon 9600 video. That was a disaster! Even the ppa purge could not make the system gui bootable again. Had to make a transition to Arch Linux. On 2 November 2010 00:01, Martin Wildam <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: >

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Read in the news that there is planned to use unity in future Ubuntu versions as main desktop. I did not tried myself but heard and read of _many_ people that this is still really buggy. I do personally fully understand, that Ubuntu needs to keep up with innovation and there is the desire to deli

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 01:50, Faldegast <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > >> Nobody thinks of paying a yearly license for having tubes in the wall > >> - no - people pay the plumber when they need him/her for putting > >> additional tubes or doing repair work. I think, it should be the same >

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You're absolutely right, Tom. And don't forget our beloved X window system. Long before MS as released its poor and system resource eater Aero, the linux community was ''playing'' with the great Compiz and its cube. And there are some people who still think that Linux has not a graphical environm

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It is not just that Ubuntu has developed a lot over the last 2 or 3 years. Users expectations and hardware have developed into areas either already covered by linux kernels or easily implemented as Unix was developed to be a multi-everything system. The introduction of dual/quad-core cpus caug

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 01:50, Faldegast <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: >> Nobody thinks of paying a yearly license for having tubes in the wall >> - no - people pay the plumber when they need him/her for putting >> additional tubes or doing repair work. I think, it should be the same >> for soft

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> On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 23:21, Faldegast <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > > In 2007 the market for a software store was very immature. Now everyone > > got one. There is Appstore, Android Market, Chrome Web Store, and > > Microsofts specs for Windows 8 suggests they are planning one. > > I th

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On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 23:21, Faldegast <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > In 2007 the market for a software store was very immature. Now everyone > got one. There is Appstore, Android Market, Chrome Web Store, and > Microsofts specs for Windows 8 suggests they are planning one. I think it is nec

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Ok. Now I found it. :) I don't think the USC need to be replaced. I will read more about it and perhaps write a blueprint with whatever ideas i get. > @Faldegast > > The Ubuntu Software Centre (USC) is the way software gets distributed to > Ubuntu users. It can accommodate FLOSS, proprietary, a

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@Faldegast The Ubuntu Software Centre (USC) is the way software gets distributed to Ubuntu users. It can accommodate FLOSS, proprietary, and more. New in 10.10 there is a section in USC for commercial apps (that cost money) too. The one thing that all software in USC has in common though is that i

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I think that the official name for CNR is something else now. In 2007 the market for a software store was very immature. Now everyone got one. There is Appstore, Android Market, Chrome Web Store, and Microsofts specs for Windows 8 suggests they are planning one. Yeah, there is people that is not

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On 10/23/2010 07:00 AM, Faldegast wrote: > Take a look at Xandros and their success. CNR seam to work quite well, > just to bad that their OS is... In 2006, there was an announcement of CNR for Ubuntu. It was actually in Hardy. It never went anywhere. See http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/1

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1) "Linux (commonly pronounced /ˈlɪnəks/ LIN-əks in American English,[4][5] also pronounced /ˈlɪnʊks/ LIN-ooks[6] in Europe and Canada) refers to the family of Unix-like computer operating systems using the Linux kernel." Thats the common use of the word "Linux" and its quite obvious that i did

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No, not really. They did have a "pro" version yes, but they don't have a distribution network. What i am suggesting is the business model that Microsoft has. Copy that and we will take market share from them. > @faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's > downfall. > On

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Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:30, Setve Gentilly wrote: > You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know > that.. > > I am a senior technician for windows systems with many > certifications, an

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"...they warned me about your type..."??? One of the certifications is the "brainwash" one. @Gentilli: Try to judge people by yourself and not by labels and what other say. zakzor > You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know > that.. > > I am a senior technician for

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Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:31, Setve Gentilly wrote: > You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know > that.. > > I am a senior technician for windows systems with many > certifications, an

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Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:33, Setve Gentilly wrote: > You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know > that.. > > I am a senior technician for windows systems with many > certifications, an

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:32, Setve Gentilly wrote: > You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know > that.. > > I am a senior technician for windows systems with many > certifications, an

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:32, Setve Gentilly wrote: > You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know > that.. > > I am a senior technician for windows systems with many > certifications, an

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:27, Setve Gentilly wrote: > You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know > that.. > > I am a senior technician for windows systems with many > certifications, an

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:26, Setve Gentilly wrote: > You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know > that.. > > I am a senior technician for windows systems with many > certifications, an

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Please don't spam your comment multiple times to be heard (you won't be). Also, it is quite rude to refer to us as 'your type'; if you don't think Ubuntu is 'worthy of your attention' then please stop and leave. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You receiv

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You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worth

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@mzc I agree. @faldegast: 1) Why would we market a kernel? 2) Running Ubuntu on scrap/old is not putting our best foot forward, and creates support issues. 3) For the server side, we have Ubuntu Server. 4) Ubuntu Software Centre is just that: a store for Ubuntu-compatible software. The extension o

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@faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's downfall. On Oct 22, 2010 10:26 AM, "Faldegast" <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > > What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following: > > 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it > can ship applications for

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following: 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it can ship applications for many OS:es, not just Ubuntu. 2. A Ubuntu Pro commercial offering. Including boxed Ubuntu, a manual, and support. Also some commercial stuff like DVD player

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Martin, True. Again i agree with that and i think we are in agreement again. So the various points people have made are valid except where we talk about noobs installing. Surely a shop that installs to perhaps tens of machines has time to play around with even just 1 and has probably no

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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 14:07, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > This bug report is not about how difficult or easy OSes are to install.  It is > about how difficult it is to buy a machine with a decent OS pre-installed. Yes, thanks for reminding. But wouldn't it be more likely that more syst

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This bug report is not about how difficult or easy OSes are to install. It is about how difficult it is to buy a machine with a decent OS pre-installed. @ Martin I think we are agreeing but have semantic differences. Imo an install is not complete until the system is tweaked and made usable f

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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I find that after a decent install most people don't even notice that they are > using a different OS.  Firefox is there and the menus easy to navigate. > Documents open with a double-click. I don't fully agree - e.g. Movie play

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I find that after a decent install most people don't even notice that they are using a different OS. Firefox is there and the menus easy to navigate. Documents open with a double-click. As G stated it is the install process that is the most difficult part. We try to make that easy and many p

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 20:37, Randall Ross (rrnwexec) wrote: > Did you bother to check which systems are certified first? > http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/ > > Think of your experiences in the Windows world. You likely have used > hardware that is stickered "Windows Ready", "Works with W

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

> If we (society) are "training" our students purely to be "users" (consumers) of software then we will see the exact effect that you describe (in the domain of OS'es and computing, at least). (Bug #1 has in effect created a whole generation of consumers who view computers as a way to get to entert

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The concept of a computer being a "bicycle for the mind" might be helpful here, and might be worth revisiting. If we (society) are "training" our students purely to be "users" (consumers) of software then we will see the exact effect that you describe (in the domain of OS'es and computing, at leas

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> This is not a Linux bug, but for some reason, Linux gets the blame, and Windows and the hardware manufactures get a pass. One more thing: I'm incredibly sorry to say so, but I forgot to mention that "that reason" is probably more and more people being stupid and getting more and more stupid as t

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

> With bad drivers, you will get bit, whatever OS you run. > This is not a Linux bug, but for some reason, Linux gets the blame, and > Windows and the hardware manufactures get a pass. My point exactly. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

On 10/20/2010 04:41 PM, »John« wrote: > ... not to mention they probably won't even bother if the > particular operating system isn't used by what they believe to be enough > of their potential customers. I guess you can see why we have a problem > with that and every single operating system is gon

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Hi guys. I don't mean to be rude; I just want the message to be perfectly clear because we've been through this shit for like million times already and I'm simply getting sick and tired of hearing the same stupid whining over and over again. Bad hardware support is always caused by stupid hardware

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Quite true. If you've ever watched a new user work with Ubuntu, you'll likely have noticed that they have a much easier time than "experienced" computer users. No bad habits to unlearn, and they tend to involve themselves less with "tinkering" on unsupported (and uncertified) hardware. > You wan

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

On 10/20/2010 02:21 PM, Setve Gentilly wrote: > When I get a new system (which I get regularly) after it is assembled it > take me 1 to 1.5 hours to install Windows, the drivers and the necessary > software to get it to function at 100% efficiency. I don't have the time to > fart around and mess

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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:50, lelamal <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > http://pollycoke.org/pollycokers/paolo/socialbox/6121 > Today I found this link in this nice Italian Website. It contains a link that > sort of fits this exchange nicely. Follow it, and the links within the article > at PC Pr

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http://pollycoke.org/pollycokers/paolo/socialbox/6121 Today I found this link in this nice Italian Website. It contains a link that sort of fits this exchange nicely. Follow it, and the links within the article at PC Pro. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs

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@Tom We are in a hurry! Do we want our children or their children to have to ship their money to the Monopoly forever? I sure don't. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a

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Lets not forget that although the information is bad and misleading it is at least getting the name out there into the mainstream from the Dell website. A journey of a thousand miles is not completed by the first step and who says we are in a hurry anyway? Regards from Tom :) -- Microsoft has

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What seems very strange about Dell's website is the (US/EU) inconsistency of their message. >From dell.co.ok/ubuntu. As you've discussed, it's very poor: Clicking on "shop for ubuntu laptops" - doesn't link to any, the comparison webpage is utter rubbish, and Ubuntu isn't even a selectable option

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

On 07/23/2010 08:15 AM, »John« wrote: > Damn right. Did you know that despite of what most of us probably think, > the M$ flagship product is actually their Office suite? That is an easy switch, next to Exchange. MS Exchange and Outlook are quite good and hard to match. I know, as I am trying h

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

> > http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu > > Choose Windows "If you are new to computers" - a bad joke. Especially when > > new to computers and not having to deal with old required Windows stuff, it > > is easier to use Ubuntu. > Yeah. It is exactly those user

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> > Dual-boots allow the person to change over to linux at their own pace so > > that > > they resent the new system less. > > It might be that people do need Windows later for particular tasks > although they already prefer Linux. In any case, a VirtualBox running > the Windows is quite always

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> Can we refrain from using the phrase "Linux usage", and from using the > words "Linux" and Ubuntu interchangeably? Are people really expected to > use a kernel directly? > > My experience is that dropping the "L" word opens up our favourite > operating system to a much wider audience. More thou

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Most Windows users i have stumbled across have no idea about (re)installing an operating system, whether Windows or gnu&Linux or something else. There are complexities and choices they are very unlikely to be aware of but may be dismayed that "the right way" was guessed by telepathy. Perhaps yo

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@Randall: I agree that Ubuntu should be made distinct. Users should always remember that "linux" is just the backbone to make Ubuntu or any gnu distributions to work with hardware. It just like saying calling Apple computers as running on "darwin" instead of running on macOS. On Jul 7, 2010

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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 09:30, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Dual-boots allow the person to change over to linux at their own pace so that > they resent the new system less. It might be that people do need Windows later for particular tasks although they already prefer Linux. In any case,

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Can we refrain from using the phrase "Linux usage", and from using the words "Linux" and Ubuntu interchangeably? Are people really expected to use a kernel directly? My experience is that dropping the "L" word opens up our favourite operating system to a much wider audience. More thoughts here: ht

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UD seems fairly crucial to getting people more relaxed about trying Linux. Regards from Tom :) From: Martin Wildam To: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tue, 6 July, 2010 18:36:18 Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share On Tue, Jul 6, 20

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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 21:34, Faldegast wrote: > For the last few years my policy have been that i only support Linux, > i dont answer any Windows questions even if i know them. I simply > reply "I dont use Windows". As a result the amount of time i have to spend > supporting friends and family ha

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> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 22:08:17 + > From: jns@gmail.com > To: faldeg...@hotmail.com > Subject: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share > > Hi there. > > > > I dont see how you get from portable binary drivers to binary blobs. > > If you fa

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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 13:58, Tom wrote: > Please can we try to set-up Dual-boot's rather than slash & burn. Why should I waste so much disk space? > If people need to return machines it is difficult sometimes but dual-boot > gets around the issues If a machine is returned it should then get a

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Please can we try to set-up Dual-boot's rather than slash & burn. If people need to return machines it is difficult sometimes but dual-boot gets around the issues -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 18:39, »John« wrote: > I agree that having a standardised driver framework would probably not > be a bad thing, but there's another catch - DRIVERS FOR FREE OPERATING > SYSTEMS WOULD STILL NEED TO BE FREE! Yes, indeed. >> The optimal solution would be if compiled kernel m

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Hi there. > I dont see how you get from portable binary drivers to binary blobs. If you factor in my understanding of the word "blob" (which for me equals "binary (only) drivers", not "free drivers in their pre-compiled form"), then you just answered yourself. > With my suggestion you would be

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> I'm sorry, but you fail to see the bigger picture. > > > > One thing that is needed is open standard. Writing an operating system > > should not be about writing drivers for hundreds of devices. Standards > > should exists for drivers. Like OSKit or I/O Kit. Hince there should not > > have

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

I'm sorry, but you fail to see the bigger picture. > One thing that is needed is open standard. Writing an operating system should > not be about writing drivers for hundreds of devices. Standards should exists > for drivers. Like OSKit or I/O Kit. Hince there should not have to be Linux > dri

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

> If in order to run Ubuntu my mother has to buy Windows, then the present bug will take decades to be fixed... Exactly! If we allow M$ to have the luxury of charging us even for licenses that actually never get used (which their own EULA clearly states as a completely valid reason to get a refund

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For Linux Native Development question I started a topic at the forums - for everybody who is interested to follow that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1482882 -- Martin Wildam -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 14:49, Faldegast wrote: > There are many good developers for Linux and its true that they don't always > need a nice RAD IDE > environment. However my point is that without new amateur developers the pool > of good developers will > not grow. Agree - you convinced me. Ga

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> Before this degrades to a developer litigation - regarding the development: > 1. I think there are really enough options for developing under Linux. I think the problem is that there are to many options. > 2. I don't see Visual Studio being sooo good. I used Visual Studio for > more than 10 ye

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Before this degrades to a developer litigation - regarding the development: 1. I think there are really enough options for developing under Linux. 2. I don't see Visual Studio being sooo good. I used Visual Studio for more than 10 years and I felt way better after I switched to NetBeans and Java de

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> > > So how do i use libmysql to connect to my postres database again? None of > > > those are database libraries. They are database-specific client > > > libraries. The only C database lib i know that is actively developed i > > > libzdb (http://www.tildeslash.com/libzdb/documentation.html).

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> Good morning, sir. > > > > What? Can you be more specific in how you come to this ramblings out of > > what i wrote? How would having a standard rather then (at least) two > > incompatible solutions create such a mess? > > It wouldn't, but all sorts of idiots abusing it would. I guess we ca

[Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Good morning, sir. > What? Can you be more specific in how you come to this ramblings out of what > i wrote? How would having a standard rather then (at least) two incompatible > solutions create such a mess? It wouldn't, but all sorts of idiots abusing it would. I guess we can all agree that

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

The key to solving this bug lies in the title of the bug. Ubuntu needs marketing. Market it! The rest will follow ;) Cheers, Randall. On 10-05-06 05:25 PM, Faldegast wrote: > >>> In general i think that we really need task forces in plural. >>> >> Agreed, but some we already have some

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Please use the Ubuntu forums for general chat about Ubuntu. This is supposed to be a bug report. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs m

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

Faldegast wrote: > Why don't do it the RHEL/CentOS way with LTS releases where user application > lake browsers etc gets updated but system stuff only get bug-fixes. > To be conservative with kernel updates is good but why be that conservative > with Firefox and OpenOffice? Im not saying we shoul

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