[Bug 1] Re: Bug #1: Microsoft has a majority market share

2012-04-07 Thread »John«
It takes a while to dig into a project and although I have invested a few time for 2 or 3 projects to fix a few bugs, I cannot dig into every project where I find bugs. I have to rely on others fixing it The point isn't that you should try to fix everything yourself, but that always have much

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2011-11-10 Thread Martin Wildam
Am 10.11.2011 17:36 schrieb houstonbofh 1...@bugs.launchpad.net: Short version, while there are some changes, most things are standard. There is a reason for this. I do not consider the taskbar position so important as gas and break in a car. Compare it to old-style gear and automatic - a big

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-11-13 Thread Fabien Basmaison
I fully second that. Build to make Ubuntu more robust before adding features. Le 02/11/2010 05:01, Martin Wildam a écrit : So please, please, focus more on bug fixing than on introducing new user ui, which already is really good! Fabien Basmaison http://identi.ca/arkhi/ -- Microsoft has

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-11-01 Thread Martin Wildam
Read in the news that there is planned to use unity in future Ubuntu versions as main desktop. I did not tried myself but heard and read of _many_ people that this is still really buggy. I do personally fully understand, that Ubuntu needs to keep up with innovation and there is the desire to

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-11-01 Thread Artem Karimov
I agree. I tried running the Unity on Maverick on the 2004 laptop with P4 and Radeon 9600 video. That was a disaster! Even the ppa purge could not make the system gui bootable again. Had to make a transition to Arch Linux. On 2 November 2010 00:01, Martin Wildam 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-11-01 Thread Tom
I am getting most of my people to stick with 10.04 (LTS). I will be trying out a few newer releases but only on a spare partition especially at first. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-11-01 Thread Martin Wildam
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 22:49, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I am getting most of my people to stick with 10.04 (LTS).  I will be trying out a few newer releases but only on a spare partition especially at first. I am also on 10.04 - although 9.10 would have been the better LTS. Please,

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-11-01 Thread Martin Wildam
Because of the latest problems with network-manager I tried wicd - and bum - next bug report. Currently I think I could spend the whole day with bug reporting... - that is sad... -- Martin Wildam http://www.google.com/profiles/mwildam -- Microsoft has a majority market share

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-25 Thread Martin Wildam
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 01:50, Faldegast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Nobody thinks of paying a yearly license for having tubes in the wall - no - people pay the plumber when they need him/her for putting additional tubes or doing repair work. I think, it should be the same for software. The

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-25 Thread Tom
It is not just that Ubuntu has developed a lot over the last 2 or 3 years. Users expectations and hardware have developed into areas either already covered by linux kernels or easily implemented as Unix was developed to be a multi-everything system. The introduction of dual/quad-core cpus

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-25 Thread zakzor
You're absolutely right, Tom. And don't forget our beloved X window system. Long before MS as released its poor and system resource eater Aero, the linux community was ''playing'' with the great Compiz and its cube. And there are some people who still think that Linux has not a graphical

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-25 Thread Faldegast
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 01:50, Faldegast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Nobody thinks of paying a yearly license for having tubes in the wall - no - people pay the plumber when they need him/her for putting additional tubes or doing repair work. I think, it should be the same for

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-24 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 23:21, Faldegast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: In 2007 the market for a software store was very immature. Now everyone got one. There is Appstore, Android Market, Chrome Web Store, and Microsofts specs for Windows 8 suggests they are planning one. I think it is

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-24 Thread Faldegast
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 23:21, Faldegast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: In 2007 the market for a software store was very immature. Now everyone got one. There is Appstore, Android Market, Chrome Web Store, and Microsofts specs for Windows 8 suggests they are planning one. I think it is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Delan Azabani
Please don't spam your comment multiple times to be heard (you won't be). Also, it is quite rude to refer to us as 'your type'; if you don't think Ubuntu is 'worthy of your attention' then please stop and leave. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Martin Eisenhardt
Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:26, Setve Gentilly wrote: You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Martin Eisenhardt
Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:27, Setve Gentilly wrote: You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Martin Eisenhardt
Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:32, Setve Gentilly wrote: You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Martin Eisenhardt
Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:32, Setve Gentilly wrote: You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Martin Eisenhardt
Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:33, Setve Gentilly wrote: You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Martin Eisenhardt
Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:31, Setve Gentilly wrote: You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread zakzor
...they warned me about your type...??? One of the certifications is the brainwash one. @Gentilli: Try to judge people by yourself and not by labels and what other say. zakzor You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Martin Eisenhardt
Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy of our attention. On 23.10.2010, at 07:30, Setve Gentilly wrote: You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Faldegast
No, not really. They did have a pro version yes, but they don't have a distribution network. What i am suggesting is the business model that Microsoft has. Copy that and we will take market share from them. @faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's downfall. On Oct

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Faldegast
1) Linux (commonly pronounced /ˈlɪnəks/ LIN-əks in American English,[4][5] also pronounced /ˈlɪnʊks/ LIN-ooks[6] in Europe and Canada) refers to the family of Unix-like computer operating systems using the Linux kernel. Thats the common use of the word Linux and its quite obvious that i did not

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread houstonbofh
On 10/23/2010 07:00 AM, Faldegast wrote: Take a look at Xandros and their success. CNR seam to work quite well, just to bad that their OS is... In 2006, there was an announcement of CNR for Ubuntu. It was actually in Hardy. It never went anywhere. See

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Faldegast
I think that the official name for CNR is something else now. In 2007 the market for a software store was very immature. Now everyone got one. There is Appstore, Android Market, Chrome Web Store, and Microsofts specs for Windows 8 suggests they are planning one. Yeah, there is people that is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
@Faldegast The Ubuntu Software Centre (USC) is the way software gets distributed to Ubuntu users. It can accommodate FLOSS, proprietary, and more. New in 10.10 there is a section in USC for commercial apps (that cost money) too. The one thing that all software in USC has in common though is that

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-23 Thread Faldegast
Ok. Now I found it. :) I don't think the USC need to be replaced. I will read more about it and perhaps write a blueprint with whatever ideas i get. @Faldegast The Ubuntu Software Centre (USC) is the way software gets distributed to Ubuntu users. It can accommodate FLOSS, proprietary, and

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Faldegast
What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following: 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it can ship applications for many OS:es, not just Ubuntu. 2. A Ubuntu Pro commercial offering. Including boxed Ubuntu, a manual, and support. Also some commercial stuff like DVD

Re: RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread mzc
@faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's downfall. On Oct 22, 2010 10:26 AM, Faldegast 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following: 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it can ship applications for many

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
@mzc I agree. @faldegast: 1) Why would we market a kernel? 2) Running Ubuntu on scrap/old is not putting our best foot forward, and creates support issues. 3) For the server side, we have Ubuntu Server. 4) Ubuntu Software Centre is just that: a store for Ubuntu-compatible software. The extension

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-22 Thread Setve Gentilly
You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that.. I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and they warned me about your type Maybe Windows is the best system... I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-21 Thread Martin Wildam
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 20:37, Randall Ross (rrnwexec) rand...@executiv.es wrote: Did you bother to check which systems are certified first? http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/ Think of your experiences in the Windows world. You likely have used hardware that is stickered Windows Ready,

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-21 Thread Tom
I find that after a decent install most people don't even notice that they are using a different OS. Firefox is there and the menus easy to navigate. Documents open with a double-click. As G stated it is the install process that is the most difficult part. We try to make that easy and many

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-21 Thread Martin Wildam
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I find that after a decent install most people don't even notice that they are using a different OS.  Firefox is there and the menus easy to navigate. Documents open with a double-click. I don't fully agree - e.g. Movie player

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-21 Thread Tom
This bug report is not about how difficult or easy OSes are to install. It is about how difficult it is to buy a machine with a decent OS pre-installed. @ Martin I think we are agreeing but have semantic differences. Imo an install is not complete until the system is tweaked and made usable

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-21 Thread Martin Wildam
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 14:07, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: This bug report is not about how difficult or easy OSes are to install.  It is about how difficult it is to buy a machine with a decent OS pre-installed. Yes, thanks for reminding. But wouldn't it be more likely that more systems

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-21 Thread Tom
Martin, True. Again i agree with that and i think we are in agreement again. So the various points people have made are valid except where we talk about noobs installing. Surely a shop that installs to perhaps tens of machines has time to play around with even just 1 and has probably

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-20 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
Quite true. If you've ever watched a new user work with Ubuntu, you'll likely have noticed that they have a much easier time than experienced computer users. No bad habits to unlearn, and they tend to involve themselves less with tinkering on unsupported (and uncertified) hardware. You want

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-20 Thread »John«
This is not a Linux bug, but for some reason, Linux gets the blame, and Windows and the hardware manufactures get a pass. One more thing: I'm incredibly sorry to say so, but I forgot to mention that that reason is probably more and more people being stupid and getting more and more stupid as the

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-10-20 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
The concept of a computer being a bicycle for the mind might be helpful here, and might be worth revisiting. If we (society) are training our students purely to be users (consumers) of software then we will see the exact effect that you describe (in the domain of OS'es and computing, at least).

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-24 Thread lelamal
http://pollycoke.org/pollycokers/paolo/socialbox/6121 Today I found this link in this nice Italian Website. It contains a link that sort of fits this exchange nicely. Follow it, and the links within the article at PC Pro. -- Microsoft has a majority market share

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-24 Thread Martin Wildam
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:50, lelamal 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: http://pollycoke.org/pollycokers/paolo/socialbox/6121 Today I found this link in this nice Italian Website. It contains a link that sort of fits this exchange nicely. Follow it, and the links within the article at PC Pro.

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-23 Thread haydoni
What seems very strange about Dell's website is the (US/EU) inconsistency of their message. From dell.co.ok/ubuntu. As you've discussed, it's very poor: Clicking on shop for ubuntu laptops - doesn't link to any, the comparison webpage is utter rubbish, and Ubuntu isn't even a selectable option

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-23 Thread Tom
Lets not forget that although the information is bad and misleading it is at least getting the name out there into the mainstream from the Dell website. A journey of a thousand miles is not completed by the first step and who says we are in a hurry anyway? Regards from Tom :) -- Microsoft

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-23 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
-- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-23 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
@Tom We are in a hurry! Do we want our children or their children to have to ship their money to the Monopoly forever? I sure don't. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-07 Thread Tom
to getting people more relaxed about trying Linux. Regards from Tom :) From: Martin Wildam mwil...@gmail.com To: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tue, 6 July, 2010 18:36:18 Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 13:58, Tom

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-07 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
-- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-07 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
Can we refrain from using the phrase Linux usage, and from using the words Linux and Ubuntu interchangeably? Are people really expected to use a kernel directly? My experience is that dropping the L word opens up our favourite operating system to a much wider audience. More thoughts here:

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Wildam
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 09:30, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Dual-boots allow the person to change over to linux at their own pace so that they resent the new system less. It might be that people do need Windows later for particular tasks although they already prefer Linux. In any case, a

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-07 Thread mzc
@Randall: I agree that Ubuntu should be made distinct. Users should always remember that linux is just the backbone to make Ubuntu or any gnu distributions to work with hardware. It just like saying calling Apple computers as running on darwin instead of running on macOS. On Jul 7, 2010

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-07 Thread Tom
Most Windows users i have stumbled across have no idea about (re)installing an operating system, whether Windows or gnuLinux or something else. There are complexities and choices they are very unlikely to be aware of but may be dismayed that the right way was guessed by telepathy. Perhaps your

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-07 Thread Faldegast
Can we refrain from using the phrase Linux usage, and from using the words Linux and Ubuntu interchangeably? Are people really expected to use a kernel directly? My experience is that dropping the L word opens up our favourite operating system to a much wider audience. More thoughts here:

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-07 Thread Faldegast
Dual-boots allow the person to change over to linux at their own pace so that they resent the new system less. It might be that people do need Windows later for particular tasks although they already prefer Linux. In any case, a VirtualBox running the Windows is quite always the

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Wildam
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 18:39, »John« jns@gmail.com wrote: I agree that having a standardised driver framework would probably not be a bad thing, but there's another catch - DRIVERS FOR FREE OPERATING SYSTEMS WOULD STILL NEED TO BE FREE! Yes, indeed. The optimal solution would be if

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-06 Thread Tom
Please can we try to set-up Dual-boot's rather than slash burn. If people need to return machines it is difficult sometimes but dual-boot gets around the issues -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Wildam
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 13:58, Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Please can we try to set-up Dual-boot's rather than slash burn. Why should I waste so much disk space? If people need to return machines it is difficult sometimes but dual-boot gets around the issues If a machine is returned

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-06 Thread Faldegast
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 22:08:17 + From: jns@gmail.com To: faldeg...@hotmail.com Subject: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share Hi there. I dont see how you get from portable binary drivers to binary blobs. If you factor in my understanding of the word blob (which

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Wildam
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 21:34, Faldegast faldeg...@hotmail.com wrote: For the last few years my policy have been that i only support Linux, i dont answer any Windows questions even if i know them. I simply reply I dont use Windows. As a result the amount of time i have to spend supporting

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-07-05 Thread Faldegast
I'm sorry, but you fail to see the bigger picture. One thing that is needed is open standard. Writing an operating system should not be about writing drivers for hundreds of devices. Standards should exists for drivers. Like OSKit or I/O Kit. Hince there should not have to be

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-05-14 Thread Martin Wildam
For Linux Native Development question I started a topic at the forums - for everybody who is interested to follow that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1482882 -- Martin Wildam -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-05-13 Thread Faldegast
Before this degrades to a developer litigation - regarding the development: 1. I think there are really enough options for developing under Linux. I think the problem is that there are to many options. 2. I don't see Visual Studio being sooo good. I used Visual Studio for more than 10 years

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-05-13 Thread Martin Wildam
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 14:49, Faldegast faldeg...@hotmail.com wrote: There are many good developers for Linux and its true that they don't always need a nice RAD IDE environment. However my point is that without new amateur developers the pool of good developers will not grow. Agree - you

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-05-08 Thread Faldegast
So how do i use libmysql to connect to my postres database again? None of those are database libraries. They are database-specific client libraries. The only C database lib i know that is actively developed i libzdb (http://www.tildeslash.com/libzdb/documentation.html). You

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-05-08 Thread Martin Wildam
Before this degrades to a developer litigation - regarding the development: 1. I think there are really enough options for developing under Linux. 2. I don't see Visual Studio being sooo good. I used Visual Studio for more than 10 years and I felt way better after I switched to NetBeans and Java

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-05-07 Thread Faldegast
Good morning, sir. What? Can you be more specific in how you come to this ramblings out of what i wrote? How would having a standard rather then (at least) two incompatible solutions create such a mess? It wouldn't, but all sorts of idiots abusing it would. I guess we can all

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-05-06 Thread Randall Ross (rrnwexec)
The key to solving this bug lies in the title of the bug. Ubuntu needs marketing. Market it! The rest will follow ;) Cheers, Randall. On 10-05-06 05:25 PM, Faldegast wrote: In general i think that we really need task forces in plural. Agreed, but some we already have some (like

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-23 Thread Faldegast
Why don't do it the RHEL/CentOS way with LTS releases where user application lake browsers etc gets updated but system stuff only get bug-fixes. To be conservative with kernel updates is good but why be that conservative with Firefox and OpenOffice? Im not saying we should throw the edgiest

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-23 Thread houstonbofh
Faldegast wrote: Why don't do it the RHEL/CentOS way with LTS releases where user application lake browsers etc gets updated but system stuff only get bug-fixes. To be conservative with kernel updates is good but why be that conservative with Firefox and OpenOffice? Im not saying we should

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-23 Thread draoi99
Please use the Ubuntu forums for general chat about Ubuntu. This is supposed to be a bug report. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-17 Thread Tom
Ghandi said An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind MicroSquish often gets taken to court for things like anti-competitive trading practices. Even where it doesn't lose it is usually pretty clearly sailing close to the wind and there are hints of it engaging in dubious practices. Mostly

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-17 Thread Joel Bryan Juliano
I totally agree with you... 3 years ago I was assigned with a project to create a Linux distribution to be used as a migration effort by the university I was studying to move to open source, promote open source and to teach open source languages like PHP, Python and Ruby to students. The plan as

RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-17 Thread Faldegast
The OSS community should create projects like that. It could be funded by providing certification of PHP developers etc... Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:07:12 + From: joelbryan.juli...@gmail.com To: faldeg...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share I

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-16 Thread Tom
Hi :) If the store has a website then perhaps you could list it here. I am sure a few people would be interested in supporting it even if it's only by a few page hits BitTorrent is excellent and the default package in Ubuntu is pretty good. I have seen others that give more detail about multiple

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Wildam
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:22, »John« jns@gmail.com wrote: generally speaking, most people aren't very cooperative if it feels like you're trying to force something upon them Indeed. BTW: In some psychology related talk I heard a good while ago: You can only pick up people frome where they

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2010-04-15 Thread draoi99
John, What store is this and where is it? Sounds fantastic that they are showing consumers the Third and Option. On 15/04/10 12:58, »John« wrote: Sorry for another post, but I completely forgot about the good news I've got (you better brace yourself because it's quite big and it's probably

Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

2006-11-08 Thread towsonu2003
Manoj Nair wrote: Lets face it, There are two major reasons for why microsoft dominates the desktop PC market. Should we be adding one more reason for this bug's existance? Namely, Linux companies (Novell) willing to do business (that specifically promotes the patent fud) with Microsoft? --