Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Danny Piccirillo [2009-06-17 2:22 -0400]: > I'm noticing that in the latest daily build of Ubuntu, Pidgin in still > included, who makes the actual change and when will that happen? I went through the MIRs last week, and changed the seeds now. It should happen on tomorrow's daily CDs. Martin --

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
I'm noticing that in the latest daily build of Ubuntu, Pidgin in still included, who makes the actual change and when will that happen? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 02:06, Andrew Sayers < andrew-ubuntu-de...@pileofstuff.org> wrote: > I guess my previous message wasn't clear - I'm not making an argumen

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Andrew Sayers
I guess my previous message wasn't clear - I'm not making an argument here from personal preference, I'm trying to file a bug in Ubuntu itself. Specifically, that dropping Pidgin will cause a regression in the user experience for migraters. I'm also not arguing that migraters are incapable of

Re: Replace Tomboy with Gnote?

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
Apparently in Ubuntu the syncing feature will use Ubuntuone which can be implemented in Gnote. Don't know about the rest On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 23:42, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Tuesday 16 June 2009 11:32:43 pm Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > Reasons against seem to be: lacking some features. The

Re: Replace Tomboy with Gnote?

2009-06-16 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 23:32 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > Let's all refrain from a mono flamewar. We all know where we stand (if > you don't, look elsewhere to learn more!) and won't change anyone's > opinion. > > > Anyways, someone on the forums started a discussion about this and i > was wo

Re: Replace Tomboy with Gnote?

2009-06-16 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 11:32:43 pm Danny Piccirillo wrote: > Reasons against seem to be: lacking some features. There didn't seem to be > much detail on any of the points on both sides though. OK, details on feature lacking: No plugin architecture That means no syncing, no way to get LaTeX input

Replace Tomboy with Gnote?

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
Let's all refrain from a mono flamewar. We all know where we stand (if you don't, look elsewhere to learn more!) and won't change anyone's opinion. Anyways, someone on the forums started a discussion about this and i was wondering what you guys on the list though. There was a surprising amount of

Re: Better clipboard management?

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
Someone on the forumwrites: > > This is a very sore subject for me. > I saw the new "100 Paper Cuts" program announced the other day. The first > thing I thought of was this...but, of course, this isn't a trival fix so it > won't be

Re: Better clipboard management?

2009-06-16 Thread (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo
Olá Danny e a todos. On Wednesday 17 June 2009 00:11:52 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > I've recently been bothered more and more by Ubuntu's lack of better > clipboard management. I don't know all the details but i think we could > really do with a clipboard manager installed by default. I don't know m

Yo, Frankie! Needs packaging to show off nice game graphics

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
Squeezing Yo, Frankie! in would be great so that we could show off a game with nice graphics that is completely FOSS and coplyleft and made with all FOSS tools. http://www.yofrankie.org/ https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/311938 -- http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo -- Ubu

Shutter as the default screenshot tool

2009-06-16 Thread Alejandro Meneses Portilla
Yes!, it would be great if shutter is included as the default screenshot tool in Karmic. And here are two ideas: + Include it by default in karmic, and make an "Upload to Ubuntu One"(if installed) option in the app. + Add another option: to be able to record the desktop as a .gif image, as byzanz

Re: Better clipboard management?

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
Parcellite looks quite good, and on second inspection it doesn't look like gcm has been updated in a very long time On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 19:33, Matt Wheeler wrote: > 2009/6/17 Danny Piccirillo : > >> I've recently been bothered more and more by Ubuntu's lack of better >> clipboard management.

Re: Better clipboard management?

2009-06-16 Thread Matt Wheeler
2009/6/17 Danny Piccirillo : I've recently been bothered more and more by Ubuntu's lack of better clipboard management. I don't know all the details but i think we could really do with a clipboard manager installed by default. I don't know much about this, and would appreaciate input, but from wh

Better clipboard management?

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
I've recently been bothered more and more by Ubuntu's lack of better clipboard management. I don't know all the details but i think we could really do with a clipboard manager installed by default. I don't know much about this, and would appreaciate input, but from what i've read, GCM or Glipper se

Shutter as the default screenshot app?

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
I read a lot about shutter and how amazingly awesome it was so i was wondering if it was already planned to include it as the default screenshot applicatoin in Karmic? http://shutter-project.org/screenshots/ -- http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
The discussion so far has been people arguing about why they prefer Empathy or Pidgin, but at UDS it was already decided that Empathy would ship with Karmic. I humbly request that we all stop bickering about any problems we may currently have with it, and start testing it and filing bug reports so

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 5:25:12 pm Andrew Sayers wrote: > I'm not usually one to stand in the way of progress, but it seems like > there are grave issues here for people migrating from other OSes. > > Migration to Linux from another OS is best done in two stages: first you > keep your old OS and

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Andrew Sayers
I'm not usually one to stand in the way of progress, but it seems like there are grave issues here for people migrating from other OSes. Migration to Linux from another OS is best done in two stages: first you keep your old OS and switch to cross-platform apps, then you switch your OS and keep

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Jordan Mantha
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Ken VanDine wrote: > Personally I don't see anything about empathy that is worse than pidgin. > Empathy has the plus of being extremely well integrated into GNOME and > the telepathy framework opens up such huge potential.  Sticking with > Pidgin keeps us locked in

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Ken VanDine
Personally I don't see anything about empathy that is worse than pidgin. Empathy has the plus of being extremely well integrated into GNOME and the telepathy framework opens up such huge potential. Sticking with Pidgin keeps us locked in the corner, we could be so much cooler if we can get out of

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Jordan Mantha [2009-06-16 9:57 -0700]: > Well, but we basically already did that for Jaunty. At the time it was > decided to wait for Karmic. At some point we have to just bite the > bullet and do it. I'm not a huge empathy fan (it's OK, but pidgin is > better for me) but I think it's clearly the

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
What this? Apparently at UDS this was already discussed and Empathy is going to replace Pidgin-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/MessagingAndCommunicationSelection On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 16:04, Asif Youssuff wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 20:39 +0100, Alexander H Deriziotis wro

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Asif Youssuff
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 20:39 +0100, Alexander H Deriziotis wrote: > This would be a pretty bad move regarding Ubuntu's development model. > With a 6-month release cycle, things need to remain cutting edge. If > every release is just going to be a rehash of a previous one, then > Canonical should be

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Alexander H Deriziotis
2009/6/16 Danny Piccirillo > Wait, I have a new proposal! Let's *not* include Empathy in Karmic, but > plan on including it in Karmic +1 (and *announce* this) > Why? Well, it will still give Empathy the attention it needs from > developers to fix the bugs that would be considered regressions duri

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar
reading this discussion I decided to give a try. when I want to set status to Hidden using my yahoo account, it's setting it to busy. looking into launchpad I found same problem also for gmail, which I'm not sure yet. and this bug is reported to empathy bugzilla. https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Empathy itself is ok with version 2.27.3 for an average user. The problem is telepathy: some protocols are behind pidgin's (such as MSN which is poorly supported and developers don't respond to bugs quickly) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify setting

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Jordan Mantha
Danny Piccirillo wrote: > Wait, I have a new proposal! Let's *not* include Empathy in Karmic, but > plan on including it in Karmic +1 (and /announce/ this) > > Why? Well, it will still give Empathy the attention it needs from > developers to fix the bugs that would be considered regressions during

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
If we decide to go with this, who can make the final call, and how/where can it be announced? On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:43, Asif Youssuff wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 12:37 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > Wait, I have a new proposal! Let's not include Empathy in Karmic, but > > plan on inc

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Asif Youssuff
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 12:37 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > Wait, I have a new proposal! Let's not include Empathy in Karmic, but > plan on including it in Karmic +1 (and announce this) > > Why? Well, it will still give Empathy the attention it needs from > developers to fix the bugs that would

Re: about empathy as the default IM application

2009-06-16 Thread Danny Piccirillo
Wait, I have a new proposal! Let's *not* include Empathy in Karmic, but plan on including it in Karmic +1 (and *announce* this) Why? Well, it will still give Empathy the attention it needs from developers to fix the bugs that would be considered regressions during the switch without actually replac

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 02:24:33PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: > Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 09.06.2009 um 00:45 schrieb André Pirard: > >> Similarly, the swap partition should be a Linux file. > >> This frees the user from swap considerations and opens Linux to > >> dynamic swap size. > > > > +

empathy

2009-06-16 Thread Patrick Goetz
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:44:07 -0400 From: Asif Youssuff Subject: Re: about empathy as the default IM application To: ubuntu-devel-discuss > I've been playing with Empathy for a while, and it has an extremely > annoying behavior -- when a message is received from a person > without an open c

Re: Is it possible to avoid the automatic import of source packages into Karmic?

2009-06-16 Thread David MENTRE
Hello Colin, On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 16:12, Colin Watson wrote: > Yes. Very good news. > Please file a bug (either without a source package, or on a > randomly selected one of those source packages in Ubuntu), subscribe the > ubuntu-archive team, and give us the list. Done: https://bugs.launchp

Re: Is it possible to avoid the automatic import of source packages into Karmic?

2009-06-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 03:40:13PM +0200, David MENTRE wrote: > Following my recent questions on synchronization between Debian and > Ubuntu and my announcements on the good status of OCaml on Karmic, I > have another question to Ubuntu developers: is it possible to block > the automatic import of

Is it possible to avoid the automatic import of source packages into Karmic?

2009-06-16 Thread David MENTRE
Hello, Following my recent questions on synchronization between Debian and Ubuntu and my announcements on the good status of OCaml on Karmic, I have another question to Ubuntu developers: is it possible to block the automatic import of Debian source packages in Karmic? I can provide the list of th

Re: Few notes on filing "papercut" bugs

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mat Tomaszewski wrote on 12/06/09 12:07: >... > The response so far has been overwhelming and we are already finding > it difficult to filter out bugs that indeed are "papercuts" from the > ones that aren't. On that note, I think we need a clearer defi

[ANN] All OCaml packages synchronised for OCaml 3.11.0 in Ubuntu Karmic

2009-06-16 Thread David MENTRE
Hello, I'm pleased to announce that all OCaml packages made by Debian developers are now synchronized to OCaml 3.11.0 in Ubuntu Karmic: http://bentobako.org/ubuntu-ocaml-status/transition_monitor/ocaml_transition_monitor.html Moreover, all packages[1] have the same version number in Debian Uns