Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

2009-10-27 Thread Mohammed Bassit
Op maandag 26-10-2009 om 14:36 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George Farris: Oh right and also http://www.cbc.ca/video none of them play in Firefox. If anyone knows how to debug this stuff I'd love to try, but really it works with Firefox on Windows and Mac but not Linux, Fail.

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
I completely disagree.  There's no theoretical reason why a computer program couldn't do any of the above. We are discussing practice, not theory. In theory, there isn't any difference between the two. But in practice...  Professionals are primarily required to protect professionals' jobs.  

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
You keep missing the main point. which is not whether or not people without knowledge _should_ be running servers, but that they _are_, will continue to be whether or not we support them, and can't be prevented from doing so. All of your arguments against providing the tools to support them

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

2009-10-27 Thread Daniel Robitaille
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Jan Claeys li...@janc.be wrote: Op maandag 26-10-2009 om 14:36 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George Farris: Oh right and also http://www.cbc.ca/video none of them play in Firefox. If anyone knows how to debug this stuff I'd love to try, but really it works

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
Here is a great example of people administering things that they shouldn't: http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/PHP-has-an-eval-function-like-perl.aspx -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Derek Broughton
Christopher Chan wrote: Derek Broughton wrote: Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: Derek Broughton wrote: I don't follow why you would think an X server on Windows is required. Easy. Remote desktop for remote administration. Of course, I do not necessarily agree with using

Re: [thanks!]Re: Apache Maven to be removed from Karmic?

2009-10-27 Thread Martin Pitt
Alvin Thompson [2009-10-27 10:36 -0400]: I'd just like to publicly thank whoever was responsible for getting Maven up to snuff in time for this release. That was Matthias Klose. Kudos for your hard last-minute work! For the record, some plugins are still missing, but these will be provided in

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

2009-10-27 Thread George Farris
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 09:07 -0400, Daniel Robitaille wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Jan Claeys li...@janc.be wrote: Op maandag 26-10-2009 om 14:36 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George Farris: Oh right and also http://www.cbc.ca/video none of them play in Firefox. If anyone

Re: artwork

2009-10-27 Thread Alvin Thompson
On 10/25/2009 10:19 PM, Dustin Kirkland wrote: First, before sending an email criticizing aesthetics, I would pass my own text through a spell checker and carefully examine the format of the composition. Questioning the messenger instead of the message is a logical fallacy. :P --

why update-manager doesn't mark new packages as auto-installed?

2009-10-27 Thread yurik 81
In update-manager some packages marked as 'new install'. I think, this packages always depend on currently installed ones. Therefore, why wouldn't mark new packages as auto-installed? This will prevent the accumulation of unused packages in the system. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Derek Broughton
Dotan Cohen wrote: Here is a great example of people administering things that they shouldn't: http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/PHP-has-an-eval-function-like-perl.aspx Very funny. Now, wouldn't it have been better to give Jim some useful tools? -- derek -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

2009-10-27 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/10/26 George Farris farr...@cc.mala.bc.ca: On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 14:16 -0500, solaris manzur wrote:           1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus         Hitter) I agree we should cancel it and deliver 9.12 in a week or so.. it is better because it is the time

Re: Compiz zoom scary, enabled by default in Karmic RC

2009-10-27 Thread John Dong
On Oct 25, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Jordan Mantha wrote: I've accidentally hit this zoom thing many many more times than I ever accidentally hit the dreaded Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. I've never figured out a good way to get out of it other than to reboot my computer so the effect was about the

PulseAudio Applets

2009-10-27 Thread Kyle Amadio
Has anyone else got this problem? - none of my PulseAudio applets work - none of them Karmic 9.10 RC 64bit -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: PulseAudio Applets

2009-10-27 Thread Daniel Chen
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Kyle Amadio kyle.ama...@itvss.com.au wrote: Has anyone else got this problem? - none of my PulseAudio applets work - none of them A bit more detail -- e.g., bug reports -- would be useful. -Dan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: why update-manager doesn't mark new packages as auto-installed?

2009-10-27 Thread Shentino
I would tend to second the motion, especially in cases where said new packages are already a dependency of another package. IIRC, ubuntu-desktop (and maybe a few others) are the apex packages that represent what is installed. Anything new that is already a dependency of the new version of these

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Shentino
Just curious, but would Landscape have any feature set overlap with what we're talking about here? I read that canonical uses it commercially. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Derek Broughton de...@pointerstop.cawrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: Here is a great example of people administering

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
My arguments are against making a dangerous tool accessible to the masses. Assessible in this context meaning seemingly designed for. I understand that - but the problem is the dangerous tool IS already accessible to the masses.  They can set up completely bollixed servers with MS tools.  So

Re: Compiz zoom scary, enabled by default in Karmic RC

2009-10-27 Thread Joe Zimmerman
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Jan Claeys li...@janc.be wrote: You mean button 3 (the middle button is the third button as it was added to mice after the main (left) button and the right button). Ah, sorry, I did mean button 3. I think the Super+Scrollwheel is okay (and more

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Derek Broughton
Dotan Cohen wrote: My arguments are against making a dangerous tool accessible to the masses. Assessible in this context meaning seemingly designed for. I understand that - but the problem is the dangerous tool IS already accessible to the masses. They can set up completely bollixed servers

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Steven Susbauer
On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Shentino wrote: Just curious, but would Landscape have any feature set overlap with what we're talking about here? I read that canonical uses it commercially. This has brought my focus back on the subject line for what we're all replying to. I think it's

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Christopher Chan
Derek Broughton wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Derek Broughton wrote: Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: Derek Broughton wrote: I don't follow why you would think an X server on Windows is required. Easy. Remote desktop for remote

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Christopher Chan
Derek Broughton wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: My arguments are against making a dangerous tool accessible to the masses. Assessible in this context meaning seemingly designed for. I understand that - but the problem is the dangerous tool IS already accessible to the masses. They

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Christopher Chan
Derek Broughton wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: I completely disagree. There's no theoretical reason why a computer program couldn't do any of the above. We are discussing practice, not theory. In theory, there isn't any difference between the two. But in practice...

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Christopher Chan
Steven Susbauer wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Shentino wrote: Just curious, but would Landscape have any feature set overlap with what we're talking about here? I read that canonical uses it commercially. This has brought my focus back on the subject line for what

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Steven Susbauer
On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: Hands up those who know end users that understand tcp/ip enough to decide on a static ip for the UDS server that will host the user account database, the update repository and the monitoring software. So now you're what, bashing

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:53:08 +0800 Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Steven Susbauer wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Shentino wrote: Just curious, but would Landscape have any feature set overlap with what we're talking about here? I read that canonical uses

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Derek Broughton
Christopher Chan wrote: Professionals need to be on-call. In fact, for most medical treatment, the doctor _is_ on-call. If we could make the day-to-day administration of servers simple and fool-proof, the small business owner might be far more happy to consider keeping an expert on-call.

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Christopher Chan
Steven Susbauer wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: Hands up those who know end users that understand tcp/ip enough to decide on a static ip for the UDS server that will host the user account database, the update repository and the monitoring software. So now you're

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-27 Thread Christopher Chan
Derek Broughton wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Professionals need to be on-call. In fact, for most medical treatment, the doctor _is_ on-call. If we could make the day-to-day administration of servers simple and fool-proof, the small business owner might be far more happy to consider

Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

2009-10-27 Thread Jeff
There seems to be a set of very irritating regressions in Karmic (well, gnome 2.28.0) regarding session idling or power management inhibition. Core software such as eog and totem seem to break it. In the case at hand, your screen will never blank, never lock, and your IM will never be set to away