Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Jeff Waugh
> pe, 2005-10-21 kello 19:30 +0100, Jane Silber kirjoitti: > > > We need to sort some of these things out and move on to defining what > > this team will do in order to get approval from the Community Council > > and even be a team at all :). > > What you're proposing is precisely everything th

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Rajiv Vyas
> A liasion officer enables focused communication. Weekly reviews by > leads inter-project provides understanding. Liasion cross-team / > Foundation / Canonical by liasion officers provides community > understanding. _Posting_by_non-team_members_leads_ to_confusion_. If > you want to criticise a pr

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
pe, 2005-10-21 kello 19:30 +0100, Jane Silber kirjoitti: > We need to sort some of these things out and move on to defining what > this team will do in order to get approval from the Community Council > and even be a team at all :). What you're proposing is precisely everything that's wrong abo

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Lloyd Hardy
"We shouldn't have two teams, and we as a community shouldn't want two.  My messages have been an explicit attempt to try to avoid this - thus my concern about communication methods and membership." Which is where we began this discussion - it is easy to look back on a forum and see where, why

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Jane Silber
Hi everyone - I'd like to try to defuse this a bit. Well, the fact that this is primarily revolving around the perspectives of Canonical Employees. I tell you what - it seems that I'm in the wrong place - there seems to be 2 marketing teams, and I'm in the one on the wiki, the one with projec

Re: Fwd: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Lloyd Hardy
Malcolm Yates wrote: Ooops - this should have gone to the list - not just to LLoyd - sorry :-( ;) making roughly 3 percent of the marketing list having Canonical responsibility. 6%. ;) Should it not be 6% of all other teams / bodies, then? Why not just have one big, single list?

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Lloyd Hardy
Jeff Waugh wrote: I agree, thus we would like to post activities (if we're told about them) and would like to have an _organised_ communication with all other groups via liaisons. It is obviously an important relationship - but not more important than with the rest of the communi

Fwd: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Malcolm Yates
Ooops - this should have gone to the list - not just to LLoyd - sorry :-( -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken... Date: Friday 21 October 2005 17:01 From: Malcolm Yates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday 21 October 2005 15:

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Jeff Waugh
> I agree, thus we would like to post activities (if we're told about them) > and would like to have an _organised_ communication with all other groups > via liaisons. It is obviously an important relationship - but not more > important than with the rest of the community. Hey, why not bring in a

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Daniel Robitaille
Just to add my 2 cents to this discussion. Except for a couple of small emails, I have been mostly luking in this mailing list; something I do on a bunch of Ubuntu mailing lists, only geting involved in specific things I'm interested to, or have time for. I'm not a Canonical employees, but I

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Lloyd Hardy
Jeff Waugh wrote: Can we have a Marketing Team mailing list, so we can get some work done, please? - and please join our team - but not as representatives from Canonical. This is the marketing team mailing list. Anyone who works for Canonical is going to be stuck repre

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Can we have a Marketing Team mailing list, so we can get some work done, > please? - and please join our team - but not as representatives from > Canonical. This is the marketing team mailing list. Anyone who works for Canonical is going to be stuck representing Canonical no matter what happen

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Lloyd Hardy
"Defining an exclusive "membership" of the marketing team is going to be off-putting, in my opinion." Please see: "it's an open team!" "How exactly does one gain membership in the Marketing Team in your vision? Subscribe to this list? Join the new forum? Gain approval from existing team membe

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Malcolm Yates
On Friday 21 October 2005 08:56, Jane Silber wrote: > Lloyd - > > > Or just google for "chain letters". We don't need to reward people for > > spreading Ubuntu. We need to motivate them and work together as a > > _community_ (as opposed to a community mandated by Canonical employees). > > I think t

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] If it isn't broken...

2005-10-21 Thread Jane Silber
Lloyd - Or just google for "chain letters". We don't need to reward people for spreading Ubuntu. We need to motivate them and work together as a _community_ (as opposed to a community mandated by Canonical employees). I think there are obvious differences between what I suggested as a mark