question about scala / sbt contributions to universe

2019-02-16 Thread Thomas Finneid
Hi I am looking into upgrading the scala package to the newest scala 2.12.8 and creating a new package for the scala build tool, Sbt, 1.2. I have been discussing this with the Debian-java team, but since scala must be built with the previous version of scala and sbt, and the same for sbt,

Re: contributions

2008-05-19 Thread Stephan Hermann
Moins, On Sun, 18 May 2008 20:22:25 +0200 Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephan Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not moving away from this LP thingy for merges? We could use something like the RT for those tasks? Do you think about rt.canonical.com? Definitly not...

Re: contributions

2008-05-19 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This would help with preventing duplicate work, but I do see how that would address my concern about having to wait to get a bug number? What would you need the bug number for? The only reason I see is to add a propoer comment in debian/changelog.

Re: contributions

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
Per definition, the assignee of a malone bugtask is the one working on the merge. It would be very useful if DaD was taught about these merge bugs and reproduce that piece of information. Currently if you enter Bug #nn as a comment in DaD it knows that's a bug number and adds a link to

Re: contributions

2008-05-19 Thread Daniel Holbach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Kitterman schrieb: Does Launchpad/python-launchpad expose an interface for this? With email reported bugs you have to wait for LP to get around to mailing you the bug number. import launchpadbugs.connector Bug =

Re: contributions

2008-05-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a) Too cumbersomely b) The round-trip time is too high that make duplicate work more likely c) the use of lp restricts possible contributors d) The complete list of outstanding merges must be easily visible. For a), I image that we can craft scripts

Re: contributions

2008-05-18 Thread Stephan Hermann
Moins, On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:56:16 +0200 Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a) Too cumbersomely b) The round-trip time is too high that make duplicate work more likely c) the use of lp restricts possible contributors d) The complete

Re: contributions

2008-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a) Too cumbersomely b) The round-trip time is too high that make duplicate work more likely c) the use of lp restricts possible contributors d) The complete list of outstanding merges must be easily visible. For a), I image that we can craft scripts

Re: contributions

2008-05-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Stephan Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not moving away from this LP thingy for merges? We could use something like the RT for those tasks? Do you think about rt.canonical.com? Or shall we setup another RT instance? What features do RT offer over malone? AFAIUI you would need a RT

Re: contributions

2008-05-18 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
ScottK wrote: This would help with preventing duplicate work, but I do see how that would address my concern about having to wait to get a bug number? AFAICS there is no reason why the claim-merge.py script should not be able to return the bug number right away. -- Morten -- Ubuntu-motu

Re: contributions

2008-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
ScottK wrote: This would help with preventing duplicate work, but I do see how that would address my concern about having to wait to get a bug number? AFAICS there is no reason why the claim-merge.py script should not be able to return the bug number right away. Does

Re: contributions

2008-05-17 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally I'd find a file a bug first rule very demotivating. One more rule to convince me to spend my time on other things. Could you please elaborate here? What specifically is the annoying part of filing a bug? Possible reasons I can image: a)

Re: contributions

2008-05-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 17 May 2008 17:46:47 +0200 Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally I'd find a file a bug first rule very demotivating. One more rule to convince me to spend my time on other things. Could you please elaborate here? What

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
Moins, On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:51:47 -0500 Nicolas Valcarcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Since hardy i have notice that some times contributions are not taking into account, mostly on merges. For MOTUs and core devels is not needed to file a bug since it's only needed to upload

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Daniel Holbach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Morten Kjeldgaard schrieb: It _should_ be possible to write a simple CLI tool that would submit an email merge request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] given a package name and -version. The script could fill in the necessary fields, assign the bug to

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:23:46 +0200 Daniel Holbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Morten Kjeldgaard schrieb: It _should_ be possible to write a simple CLI tool that would submit an email merge request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] given a package name and

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Daniel Holbach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Kitterman schrieb: According to Henrik, the workflow bugs shouldn't exist anyway (bugsquad list) and any attempt to help bugsquad understand how to use them gets removed from the wiki unilaterally. I don't think we should invest time

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Emmet Hikory
Stephan Hermann wrote: 1. Dev/Contributor should work as first duty on the packages he/she touched the last time. Therefore, the dev/contributor don't have to check for merge/sponsor bugs in the first place. While this is often the case, there are sometimes dependencies between packages

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Sarah Hobbs
Emmet Hikory wrote: 2. LP is hard to track to. Regarding, that we don't have special maintainers for packages, you can't track all the time the status or new bugs of all packages/bugs filed at LP. Yes, it sometimes sad for the contributor...but the easiest way is to go online and ping

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
Hi, On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:05:25 +0900 Emmet Hikory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephan Hermann wrote: 1. Dev/Contributor should work as first duty on the packages he/she touched the last time. Therefore, the dev/contributor don't have to check for merge/sponsor bugs in the first place.

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Emmet Hikory
Stephan Hermann wrote: Emmet Hikory wrote: While this is often the case, there are sometimes dependencies between packages that mean that other packages must be merged first. Also, depending on the focus of the individual developer, it may be that upgrading a specific package is

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
It seems the main concern of many of the posters in this thread is that you may have a package you care about and would like to maintain, and you do not want a random contributor grabbing it in front of your nose. I am a big believer in letting computers solve as many problems as

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 03:00, Daniel Holbach wrote: Scott Kitterman schrieb: According to Henrik, the workflow bugs shouldn't exist anyway (bugsquad list) and any attempt to help bugsquad understand how to use them gets removed from the wiki unilaterally. I don't think we should invest

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 05:02, Emmet Hikory wrote: Stephan Hermann wrote: Emmet Hikory wrote: While this is often the case, there are sometimes dependencies between packages that mean that other packages must be merged first. Also, depending on the focus of the individual

Re: contributions

2008-05-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 06:13, Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: It seems the main concern of many of the posters in this thread is that you may have a package you care about and would like to maintain, and you do not want a random contributor grabbing it in front of your nose. I am a big believer

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi Nicolas, On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 07:51:47PM -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: Hi, Since hardy i have notice that some times contributions are not taking into account, mostly on merges. For MOTUs and core devels is not needed to file a bug since it's only needed to upload the package

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 12 May 2008 20:51, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: Hi, Since hardy i have notice that some times contributions are not taking into account, mostly on merges. For MOTUs and core devels is not needed to file a bug since it's only needed to upload the package, but some times

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 13 May 2008 17:22, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: I think i haven't explain myself as i should. The thing was that: developer A uploaded a package on the past release circle, then a merge was publiched on MoM, a contributor take the merge, work on it and upload the debdiff to launchpad

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Jordan Mantha
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008 17:22, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: I think i haven't explain myself as i should. The thing was that: developer A uploaded a package on the past release circle, then a merge was publiched on MoM,

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 13 May 2008 18:11, Jordan Mantha wrote: My feeling is that the best way to help make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen is to have *one*, canonical place to track merges. Launchpad bugs seems to be the best way we have of doing that currently. Basically, file a merge bug if

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Jordan Mantha
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008 18:11, Jordan Mantha wrote: My feeling is that the best way to help make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen is to have *one*, canonical place to track merges. Launchpad bugs seems to be

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Emmet Hikory
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008 18:11, Jordan Mantha wrote: My feeling is that the best way to help make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen is to have *one*, canonical place to track merges. Launchpad bugs seems to be the best way we have of doing that currently.

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
AM, Mathias Gug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nicolas, On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 07:51:47PM -0500, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: Hi, Since hardy i have notice that some times contributions are not taking into account, mostly on merges. For MOTUs and core devels is not needed to file a bug

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:11:43 +0900 Emmet Hikory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008 18:11, Jordan Mantha wrote: My feeling is that the best way to help make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen is to have *one*, canonical place to track merges.

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
Jordan Mantha wrote: My feeling is that the best way to help make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen is to have *one*, canonical place to track merges. Launchpad bugs seems to be the best way we have of doing that currently. Basically, file a merge bug if you're going to be working

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Emmet Hikory
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:11:43 +0900 Emmet Hikory wrote: While I can understand the file a bug first rule to be demotivating, I'm inclined to agree with Jordan that waiting to hear from someone who is marginally active can also be demotivating. In essence,

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 13 May 2008 22:31, Emmet Hikory wrote: Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:11:43 +0900 Emmet Hikory wrote: While I can understand the file a bug first rule to be demotivating, I'm inclined to agree with Jordan that waiting to hear from someone who is marginally

Re: contributions

2008-05-13 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
AM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 12 May 2008 20:51, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote: Hi, Since hardy i have notice that some times contributions are not taking into account, mostly on merges. For MOTUs and core devels is not needed to file a bug since it's only needed

contributions

2008-05-12 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
Hi, Since hardy i have notice that some times contributions are not taking into account, mostly on merges. For MOTUs and core devels is not needed to file a bug since it's only needed to upload the package, but some times, a contributor, which need to file a bug, upload his debdiff and ask

Re: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions

2007-10-19 Thread Neil Wilson
Do you think that http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess is that complicated? (File a bug, link to the package / attach the patch, subscribe the right team) The process isn't at all complicated, but it is difficult. Any process is useless unless there is the manpower in the target review

Re: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions (was:: GetDeb Project (Why I participate))

2007-10-18 Thread Daniel Holbach
Am Mittwoch, den 17.10.2007, 13:06 -0400 schrieb Scott Kitterman: I think the most important thing is that the person be trusted not to upload broken stuff very often and to fix it when they do. I wouldn't mind having MOTUs with only casual interest as long as when they did upload something

Re: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions (was:: GetDeb Project (Why I participate))

2007-10-18 Thread Christophe Sauthier
On 10/18/07, Daniel Holbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 17.10.2007, 13:06 -0400 schrieb Scott Kitterman: I think the most important thing is that the person be trusted not to upload broken stuff very often and to fix it when they do. I wouldn't mind having MOTUs with only

Re: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions

2007-10-18 Thread Neil Wilson
Can I suggest a way forward. I'm not at all interested in being a MOTU. I'm working on a specific piece of open source software, and from that the occassional Ubuntu package drops out which I think would be of use to the general community. Having gone through the Gutsy development process I feel

Re: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions

2007-10-18 Thread Daniel Holbach
Am Donnerstag, den 18.10.2007, 11:20 +0100 schrieb Neil Wilson: Having gone through the Gutsy development process I feel that package submission is difficult if you are not one of the inner circle or are wanting to join it. And from the other side of the fence there are too many packages and

Re: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions (was:: GetDeb Project (Why I participate))

2007-10-17 Thread Peter (Ubuntu List)
Emmet Hikory wrote: In recent discussion in -devel-discuss, there was the folllowing excerpted exchange: Am Mittwoch, den 17.10.2007, 09:24 -0400 schrieb Peter (Ubuntu List): I did check to see if I could help out creating packages for as some call it, the inside Ubuntu community. All I

Re: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions (was:: GetDeb Project (Why I participate))

2007-10-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 13:45, Peter (Ubuntu List) wrote: Do you have to be a MOTU to contribute to the backports? No. We take backports from the developmental Ubuntu release. What backports most needs is people to test packages. To be a member of the group that approved backports,

Re: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions (was:: GetDeb Project (Why I participate))

2007-10-17 Thread Emmet Hikory
On 10/18/07, Peter (Ubuntu List) wrote: I believe that your mechanism to have somebody becoming a MOTU is teh right way. You have to protect the product from deteriorating and make sure your product remains on the high level it is right now. I'd agree that it's important to be sure that