Re: Upcoming APT cryptography changes for 24.04.1

2024-07-30 Thread Robie Basak
To clarify my opinion, I should add that for LTS purposes, I think it's important that we have a path to "ratchet up" the minimum ciphersuite standard, and therefore it's appropriate to do in SRU as a policy. Theoretically this would be for any release, including past releases, and future ratchets

No SRU vanguard/reviews tomorrow (on Wednesday 24 July)

2024-07-23 Thread Robie Basak
I'm attending a team event tomorrow and so won't be available for my shift. -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release

No SRU vanguard/reviews tomorrow (16 July)

2024-07-16 Thread Robie Basak
Unfortunately I have spent more than a shift's worth of time already this week on dealing with an SRU regression. I am behind on other tasks so I will not be able to do my usual shift tomorrow. Depending on how much more of my time it needs, I may have to cut my shift next week as well. Please

Re: Missing .buildinfo files in Focal and Jammy for packages in main

2024-06-05 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Phil, Thank you for working on verifiable package builds! On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 12:20:28PM +0100, Phil Roche wrote: > I am bringing this to your attention as in support of being able to verify > package builds in Ubuntu LTS releases I propose that we no change rebuild > the above packages.

Re: Refine the firmware-updates exception

2024-03-07 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Mario, Thank you for caring for the fwupd package in Ubuntu! One adminsitrative question: fwupd is in main and the Foundations team are committed to looking after it. Is your proposal made on behalf of or in coordination with the Foundations team? If not, what's the Foundation team's view on

Delegation of LTS flavour qualification to the release team?

2023-12-20 Thread Robie Basak
As a member of the Technical Board who is not on the Release Team, it always struck me as odd that the TB is responsible for determining which flavours qualify for the LTS label. Personally, if someone from the release team says it's OK, then I agree. I don't think I have anything to add or

Re: Request to remove obsolete pending SRUs

2023-12-11 Thread Robie Basak
On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 10:09:15PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Historically, we have taken the position on the SRU team that SRUs which are > still in progress when a release goes EOL are not deleted; the rationale > being that if the package builds more than one binary, and some user has >

Re: ubuntu-advantage-tools SRU exception policy review

2023-10-13 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 03:03:52PM -0300, Renan Rodrigo Barbosa wrote: > Great! Thank you very much Steve. > Now I think we are only missing a sign-off from the Release team, and the > document to be linked in > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template right? Yes, but I think

Re: Documenting the ubuntu-sru team membership process

2023-10-10 Thread Robie Basak
Hi! On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 03:27:46PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > I've an action items from the TB to reach out to the concerned teams to ask > if they could provide a such documentation, which is why I'm writing to you > now. I agree that we should have some documented process and policy.

Re: ubuntu-advantage-tools SRU exception policy review

2023-10-04 Thread Robie Basak
[adding Technical Board to Cc] On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 05:39:50PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: > This is now ready for feedback and review. We will need sign-offs from > the Pro client developers (the subset of the Server Team that is > maintaining this package) as well as the SRU team, Rel

Re: RFC on Jammy SRU with OpenSSL 3.0 backports for performance

2023-09-27 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Adrien, Thank you for working on improving OpenSSL in our stable releases! Steve has already said that performance improvements are acceptable. That's fine by me as well, but of course subject to review of the specific changes. I wanted to talk about your longer term goals though: On Mon, Aug

Re: ubuntu-advantage-tools SRU exception policy review

2023-09-14 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 12:05:49PM -0300, Renan Rodrigo Barbosa wrote: > I am reaching out to discuss some changes to the ubuntu-advantage-tools > package SRU Exception. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdvantageToolsUpdates) > > 1. The first thing to note is that the link above is not listed as an

Re: Dependency additions to OpenStack SRU exception

2023-08-30 Thread Robie Basak
Hi, As a list of 46 packages this is rather large and non-trivial to review. Presumably we'll want to group them by upstream (are all managed by the OpenStack umbrella upstream, or are there exceptions?) and then take a view on them as a whole. On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 11:44:04AM -0400, Corey

Re: SRU bug references in upstream version bumps

2023-06-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:26:12AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Auto-closure of bug tasks was irrelevant to me. We almost never have bug > tasks open in Launchpad against stable series of packages, *except* when > they have been opened as part of the SRU process. I didn't even bother to > look

Re: adsys SRU

2023-06-23 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 02:59:39PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Lallement wrote: > Can you please be concise and provide a list of bullet points that must be > addressed to move forward? Question 1. Do you want: a) an exception that allows you to change behaviour on existing installations when users

Re: SRU bug references in upstream version bumps

2023-06-23 Thread Robie Basak
For reference, here are the definitions of options 2 and 3: > >> 2) Reference them normally but then require or expect that the bugs are > >> verified anyway, even though that's not strictly necessary because of > >> the agreed QA process as part of the exception. > >> > >> 3) Reference them

Re: adsys SRU

2023-06-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 11:43:12AM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Lallement wrote: > This special case is now documented on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdsysUpdates > . Can you please review this exception? Thank you for putting this together! From that text: > The scope of this exception excludes major

SRU bug references in upstream version bumps

2023-06-16 Thread Robie Basak
In the case of an SRU using some kind of exception to bump to a newer upstream version (whether that's a microrelease, a feature changing major release or a backport of something) we can end up with: 1. Some kind of tracking bug that explains the exception, for which the SRU team agrees a QA

Re: adsys SRU

2023-06-15 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 09:00:09AM +0200, Didier Roche wrote: > >>In other cases where such upstream automatic testing is not > >>available, exceptions must still be approved by at least one member of > >>the Ubuntu Technical Board. > >If the TB is being that specific about *micro*-releases, then

Re: adsys SRU

2023-06-14 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 09:31:42AM +0200, Didier Roche wrote: > Unfortunately, like many projects, there is a constant tension between the > request for new features backport (adsys, as being an enterprise product, > only really makes sense in a LTS context) and bug fixes. Most of the new >

Re: Special One-Time SRU Handling request for torbrowser-launcher

2023-04-19 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 12:30:04PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: > Here's the minimal patch for Focal, with thanks to the respective > upstream authors: Sorry, I think I might have missed the change that drops language from the composition of tarball_filename when I generated this

Re: Special One-Time SRU Handling request for torbrowser-launcher

2023-04-19 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 04:11:23PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > To cherry pick this would require extensive reverse engineering of the code > to figure out which pieces apply to the *older* versions of > torbrowser-launcher.  Unfortunately, since there are no *bugfix* releases of >

Re: glibc SRU policy

2023-04-18 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Simon, Thank you for this detailed assessement of the current situation and in your work to get bugfixes to Ubuntu users! Some questions come to mind. What's the impact to users of not taking this action? Do we have specific cases of users being affected by bugs for which the upstream stable

Re: MRE revoked [Was: Re: MRE request for Bind9]

2023-04-14 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 12:45:41PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I'm happy to have that discussion - I just didn't want to leave the MRE in > its current state as a foot-gun to other SRU team members given the > information we currently have. +1 - sorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. We

Re: MRE revoked [Was: Re: MRE request for Bind9]

2023-04-14 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 11:23:22AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > It is the nature of MRE exceptions that we declare that *such scrutiny is > not required*, because we trust that upstream has a microrelease policy in > place that makes this unnecessary. > > While upstream has legitimate reasons

Re: Special One-Time SRU Handling request for torbrowser-launcher

2023-04-06 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Thomas, Thank you for caring for this package in Ubuntu! I'm not sure I follow why this is difficult to fix by cherry-picking fixes. It seems to me that there are two bugs mentioned - one which is a two line fix, and one which refers to upstream URLs changing, which presumably is a change in

Re: Ubuntu Cinnamon for Official Flavor Status

2023-03-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 04:29:29PM +0100, Lukasz Zemczak wrote: > Would it be possible for us to perform the vote online, via the ML? > I'd appreciate TB members to participate here with questions or votes. > From my side, as I already worked on the flavor bits from the > release-team POV, I am +1

Re: oem-meta-packageset-sync broken and spamming devel-permissions@

2023-03-10 Thread Robie Basak
, 2023 at 03:48:30PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > > 3) So instead I temporarily disabled the _effect_ of the packagesets by > > removing ~canonical-oem-metapackage-uploaders from the packageset ACLs, > > which I do have permission to do. > > Ok, please revert this. Re

oem-meta-packageset-sync broken and spamming devel-permissions@

2023-03-10 Thread Robie Basak
Documentation link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/KnowledgeBase#Canonical_OEM_metapackage_packageset devel-permissions@ is being spammed every few minutes with this, so I've taken the following emergency actions: 1) I've attempted to filter all emails from

Re: Replacing the telegram-desktop deb by a snap installer in stable series?

2023-01-25 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Seb, Thank you for raising this. On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:23:55AM +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > In Lunar we changed the telegram-desktop deb to be 'a snap installer', which > was done on upstream request. The telegram-desktop snap is maintained by > upstream. > > Now we are considering

Re: New Official Flavor Process Issues (Was Re: Ubuntu Cinnamon Remix packages)

2023-01-06 Thread Robie Basak
On behalf of the Technical Board, I've been working with the flavour leads, as well as prospective new flavour leads, to address the concerns raised in this thread. I think we reached a conclusion at the Ubuntu Summit in Prague, including on specific drafts for a documented process and specific

Re: Cron ~/oem-meta-packageset-sync/oem-meta-packageset-sync

2022-11-18 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 10:12:25AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > DMB is only on Cc:, but they appear to own this code. > > origin > https://git.launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+git/oem-meta-packageset-sync > (fetch) Documentation here:

Re: Req: thermald special case

2022-10-19 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 09:58:36AM +0300, Timo Aaltonen wrote: > Christopher James Halse Rogers kirjoitti 28.9.2022 klo 10.07: > >It's not entirely clear to me what you want to do here. > > > >If you need to fix some bugs in Jammy, and updating to thermald 2.5.0 is > >basically the same as

Re: plasma-distro-release-notifier

2022-09-10 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Erich, On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 05:32:45PM -0700, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > You may have seen my post and discussion in the MLs of ubuntu-devel, kubuntu- > devel and ubuntu-studio-devel (really, those with the Plasma desktops) > lacking > a way to be notified when a new Ubuntu version is

Re: glibc plans for 22.04 and kinetic

2022-07-04 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Michael, Thank you for the additional information. On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 05:21:17PM +1200, Michael Hudson-Doyle wrote: > I have a general desire to be more proactive about bringing upstream fixes > to 22.04 LTS than we have been but perhaps aiming to get these fixes in > before .1 is not

Re: glibc plans for 22.04 and kinetic

2022-06-29 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Michael, On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 12:43:20PM +1200, Michael Hudson-Doyle wrote: > I also want to get an SRU into jammy in time for the release of 20.04.1 > which is due August 4, probably aiming for an upload some time next week. I assume you mean 22.04.1. Is there a particular reason this

Re: Jammy SRUs

2022-05-03 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 11:28:43AM -0700, Brian Murray wrote: > Members of the Ubuntu SRU team should now be able to review packages in > the Unapproved queue and accept them to -proposed for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. My queue control buttons have appeared in the Launchpad Web UI at least, so it looks

Re: Upcoming SRU Shift

2022-03-15 Thread Robie Basak
Hi, It also doesn't look like I'm going to be able to do my normal shift tomorrow or next Wednesday. I expect that I'll be back to normal after that. If there's something I've already looked at that is waiting on a followup then feel free to ping me tomorrow and I'll try to take a look. Robie

Upcoming SRU Shift

2022-03-09 Thread Robie Basak
It doesn't look like I'm going to be able to get to my SRU shift today. Sorry for the late notice. Robie signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Maintenance of Launchpad team bug subscriptions

2021-12-14 Thread Robie Basak
e can move the repository and/or provide ACLs to relevant other teams as needed. Robie On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 09:04:54AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 07:31:16AM +, Robie Basak wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 10:19:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > O

Re: Heads up: OpenSSL3 transition

2021-11-22 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 12:54:22PM -0500, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: > I'd like to raise something. I apologize for sending this message in > such short notice. > > I am working on net-snmp, squid and a few other packages during this > transition, and I am feeling concerned with how

SRU Shift on 2021-10-06

2021-09-29 Thread Robie Basak
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SRU Shift on 2021-09-15

2021-09-09 Thread Robie Basak
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SRU Shift on 2021-08-18

2021-08-18 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:09:19AM -0700, Brian Murray wrote: > P.S. While sending this kind of notification isn't part of our standard > procedure I think it should be. Going forward if you can't do your SRU > vanguard shift please let the list know so we can find someone to cover > the vanguard

Re: [Packaging] Repackaged DisplayCAL as Dummy Package

2021-07-14 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Erich, We discussed this at the Technical Board meeting yesterday. We don't have a full answer yet, but the general thought is that there are a set of expectations for: 1) third party repositories enabled by default; and 2) packages installed from third party repositories via the archive; that

Re: [Packaging] Repackaged DisplayCAL as Dummy Package

2021-06-20 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Erich, On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 03:32:18PM -0700, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > While I would have created a snap version, I don't have the know-how, and the > flatpak version works very well. As such, we'd like to include this flatpak > version in Ubuntu Studio. I have packaged and uploaded a

Half-closed Precise release causing issues

2021-06-01 Thread Robie Basak
In Launchpad, the precise distro_series is still listed as "active". However, it doesn't appear in apt any more at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/. This is breaking git-ubuntu, which uses the active series list from Launchpad[1] to decide what apt suites exist. As a result, git-ubuntu

Re: Handling upload queues of a new stable release

2021-04-26 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:39:19AM +0200, Lukasz Zemczak wrote: > What I think is usually done so early in the cycle is a forward > binary-copy to the devel series when such an SRU is accepted. Thanks! Does this mean that the the SRU process for the package in Hirsute is followed as normal

Handling upload queues of a new stable release

2021-04-26 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 09:26:45AM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: > As usual, there were some packages left over in the Unapproved and New > queues and these will need to be handled specially. What's the normal process for handling these? As it stands, most of these uploads have bee

Hirsute now open for SRUs

2021-04-26 Thread Robie Basak
I switched queue admin over from ~ubuntu-release to ~ubuntu-sru for Hirsute this morning, so Hirsute SRU processing can now proceed as normal for new uploads. As usual, there were some packages left over in the Unapproved and New queues and these will need to be handled specially. signature.asc

Re: [SRU discussion] Renaming the 'Regression Potential' section

2020-07-31 Thread Robie Basak
I appreciate you bringing this up and proposing improvements! On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:36:02AM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > I often come across SRU bugs from developers that seem to treat the > Regression Potential section as a place to argue why their upload is not > risky and should be

Re: cloud-init SRU process: minor change request to "bonus" testing/validation from Solutions QA team

2020-07-15 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Chad, Thank you for taking the time to explain and document this proposed change. Consider it accepted. I've updated the wiki accordingly. Specifically, the cloud-init testing strategy seems adequate without the specific solutions testing section. That section exists as a "bonus" because we

Re: API for Ubuntu releases

2019-04-29 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 08:39:27PM +0200, Michal Stanke wrote: > I wanted to ask if there is any API or machine friendly format with the > list of Ubuntu releases, which would be updated when a new version is out > too. Fetch JSON from https://api.launchpad.net/devel/ubuntu/series Then look at

Re: Broken URL in GRUB change description

2019-03-26 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Luke, Thank you for reporting this. As far as I can tell, the problem is that update-manager is failing to produce the correct URL because the binary package version number mismatches the source package version number. If I'm right, then this is a bug in update-manager in providing an

Re: Not requiring SRU changes to be in $current-stable to go in the LTS

2019-03-09 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Sebastian, Thank you for bringing this up. I always prefer to have decisions like this made explicitly and then documented so that everyone is clear and that SRUs don't get held up due to confusion about expectations. It'd be useful to get this case clarified. What follows is just my personal

Re: On Ubuntu release schedule

2018-12-28 Thread Robie Basak
Hi MH, Thank you for caring for I2P packaging in Ubuntu! On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 12:49:16PM +0100, Masayuki Hatta wrote: > We'd like to put .39 to the next Ubuntu release. Could you tell me > the "dead line" date? > > (I tried to find the release cycle info on Ubuntu Wiki, but couldn't >

Re: Releasing systemd 229-4ubuntu21.5 xenial SRU

2018-10-25 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:00:09PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > If that means you agree with Dimitri's recommendations regarding ignorable > autopkgtest failures, could you please update > lp:~ubuntu-sru/britney/hints-ubuntu-xenial accordingly with badtest hints? I checked and was satisfied

Re: Releasing systemd 229-4ubuntu21.5 xenial SRU

2018-10-25 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 01:30:41PM -0700, Brian Murray wrote: > For the record this was released to -updates by somebody. That was me. Sorry, I should have noted it here. Robie signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Ubuntu-release mailing list Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com Modify

Re: Stripping noop configuration file changes from SRUs

2018-08-13 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Balint, On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 03:23:30PM +0200, Balint Reczey wrote: > I found some cases where SRUs (for example for unattended-upgrades) > listed new default values as comments in the main configuration file. > Upon upgrade this changed configuration file may trigger a question to > the

Re: Please lift aging requirement on gce-compute-image-packages in the stable release exception

2018-08-08 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 11:09:59AM -0400, Daniel Watkins wrote: > One extra argument for waiving the requirement: this package does most > of its work on first-boot of an instance; we have to manually build new > GCE images specifically to be able to test it. Users who just enable > -proposed and

Re: Please lift aging requirement on gce-compute-image-packages in the stable release exception

2018-08-07 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Steve, Summary: I still think we should have an actual justification for waiving the aging requirement. I still don't think that we've actually been given a justification in this case. Give me one and I'll reconsider, but IMHO without any justification, we should either change policy to drop

Re: Please lift aging requirement on gce-compute-image-packages in the stable release exception

2018-08-06 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Balint, On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:05:11PM +0800, Balint Reczey wrote: > Robie Basak pointed out that in the stable release exception [1] for > gce-compute-image-packages the wording does not explicitly lift the > requirement for the the package to reach the minimal age (7 days)

Creating bug tasks as part of the SRU process

2018-07-18 Thread Robie Basak
Recently we seem to have changed the process somewhat, removing the documentation about creating bug tasks for stable releases. I propose to reverse this, and give more uploaders permission to create "SRU" bug tasks, for the following reasons. I've just come across my first review where the

Re: Migrating all seeds to Git

2018-06-28 Thread Robie Basak
[dropping all from Cc leaving only the list] Thanks to Simon for handling the migration of the seeds to git. This left the instructions on changing the seeds in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement out of date, so I have updated it. If the instructions are wrong, I hope it's at least a

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-29 Thread Robie Basak
[adding pkg-mysql-maint; see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-quality/2018-March/007069.html for previous thread posts] Hi Otto, On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:29:49PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > I guess that the discussion is complete now? How do you want to proceed? > > Will y

Re: SRUs solely for dep8 updates

2018-03-27 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 08:53:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Particularly for a case of an autopkgtest that has regressed via > security/SRU, I think it matters to clean these up, as not doing so means we > lose any information about whether *other* SRUs are causing user-affecting >

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-23 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Otto, I guess that the discussion is complete now? How do you want to proceed? Will you upload a src:mariadb-10.1 update to Debian? If not, I suppose I need to upload a src:mariadb-10.1 upload to Ubuntu to fix it for Bionic at least? Robie signature.asc Description: PGP signature --

Re: SRUs solely for dep8 updates

2018-03-22 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 08:53:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Robie, > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 05:02:34PM +0000, Robie Basak wrote: > > Dimitri uploaded a dep8 fix for dovecot in bug 1757265. > > > I've always been reluctant to accept SRUs for things that ar

SRUs solely for dep8 updates

2018-03-21 Thread Robie Basak
Dimitri uploaded a dep8 fix for dovecot in bug 1757265. I've always been reluctant to accept SRUs for things that are not user impacting. For consistency, please could we decide a policy on this? To be clear, this isn't about SRU paperwork. Normally I'd happily accept a bundled dep8 fix in an

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-16 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 09:43:35AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I have owned several pre-installed Ubuntu laptops and all of them come > with their custom repositories pre-installed in > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, which install custom versions of Linux > modules or whatever that are absolute

Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-15 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:01:11AM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: [I've rearranged the quote ordering to bring common topics together] > I don't think it has unacceptable knock-on effects if reverted. On the > contrary, if not reverted, the knock-on effects will be massive. [...] > And keep the

Re: xchat and hexchat

2018-03-12 Thread Robie Basak
On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 10:01:32PM +, Robie Basak wrote: > I'd like to bring the release team's attention to this bug: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/1753169 > > This seems like a matter where people are getting quite personally > and emotiona

xchat and hexchat

2018-03-08 Thread Robie Basak
I'd like to bring the release team's attention to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/1753169 This seems like a matter where people are getting quite personally and emotionally involved, so I think it's probably best for most of us to stay out of it and leave it to our

Re: Emoji font installed for all desktop flavors?

2018-02-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 06:51:13AM -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Also, some flavors like Kylin can't post to ubuntu-devel without moderation. To be clear (for others), this isn't by some particular policy. I believe that people can be whitelisted into ubuntu-devel@. I don't think that anyone would

Re: Certbot SRU exception

2017-08-08 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 04:15:25PM -0700, Brian Murray wrote: > This looks good to me, it might be useful to include bug 1640978 in the > wiki page so people have an idea of what a proper SRU of the Certbot > family looks like. Good idea! I've added the bug link to the wiki page. Thank you for

Certbot SRU exception

2017-07-28 Thread Robie Basak
I've prepared SRU exception documentation for the Certbot family of packages (think Let's Encrypt) at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/Certbot The current SRU tracking bug is https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640978 I'd appreciate review of this plan please. If there are no objections,

Documenting "exceptional" MREs

2017-07-24 Thread Robie Basak
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#New_upstream_microreleases says: "In other cases where such upstream automatic testing is not available, exceptions must still be approved by at least one member of the Ubuntu Technical Board." So if the SRU team determine that a proposed new upstream

Re: SRU/CVE wholesale backport of (mostly) obscured blobs

2017-06-27 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 02:29:33PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > There is no way to distinguish changes of each microcode, what it > does, and which bugs it fixes and to create templates on how to > reproduce and validate each bug / vulnerability that is fixed. My > understanding is that

Re: SRU/CVE wholesale backport of (mostly) obscured blobs

2017-06-27 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Dimitri, Thank you for raising this here. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:45:39AM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Instead, I have been asked by an SRU team member to create a more typical > targetted SRU update which uses divergent packaging on per-series basis, > increasing the delta of each

Re: Add gce-compute-image-packages to the ubuntu-cloud packageset

2016-11-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:43:26PM +, Adam Conrad wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:36:52PM +0000, Robie Basak wrote: > > > > Dan asked for gce-compute-image-packages to be added to the ubuntu-cloud > > packageset, which seems fine to me. But when checking out the

Re: Add gce-compute-image-packages to the ubuntu-cloud packageset

2016-11-21 Thread Robie Basak
Dear Release Team, Dan asked for gce-compute-image-packages to be added to the ubuntu-cloud packageset, which seems fine to me. But when checking out the package I noticed that it is unseeded and in universe. This seems to be at odds to me that it is "installed in the official Ubuntu images on

Re: Proposed pocket racing uninstallability and SRU verification around release time

2016-10-19 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:41:26PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I understand the intent. Testing -proposed as a whole then still leaves you > the problem of root-causing any regressions. Have you had success in > feeding back the results of your testing into the SRU process? I'd like to

Proposed pocket racing uninstallability and SRU verification around release time

2016-10-17 Thread Robie Basak
I just filed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1634201; I Cc'd the bug so as to try and not fragment any discussion. During development, we have packages in -proposed that fail to migrate, as expected, for good reason. At release time, these packages are still present. For

Re: PowerDNS 4.0 and Xenial

2016-02-05 Thread Robie Basak
Hi Pieter, Thank you for looking out for the PowerDNS packaging in Ubuntu! I'm forwarding your question to the Ubuntu Release Team to ask their opinion. For your second option, remember that ordinary bugfixes are absolutely fine to land even after feature freeze, so if your subsequent alphas,

Re: juju-core feature uploads during feature freeze

2015-08-24 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:35:50AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: This all sounds completely reasonable to me. Thanks for letting us know. Great! Thank you for confirming. At some point during the release cycle I imagine you'll want to start using the SRU process anyway instead of pushing

juju-core feature uploads during feature freeze

2015-08-21 Thread Robie Basak
Dear Ubuntu Release Team, juju-core has an exception for major release updates, including new features, in stable releases[1]. It seems to me that this implies that it's fine for me to also upload new upstream feature releases to the development release during feature freeze, as would make

nginx exception request

2015-06-23 Thread Robie Basak
in future. We think option A fits better with the needs of nginx users, but welcome further discussion. Please can we agree on feature freeze and SRU policy exceptions so that we can execute option A, or otherwise discuss alternatives? Thanks, Robie Basak and Thomas Ward Ubuntu Server Team [1] https

Re: Juju SRU and QA plans

2014-10-27 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 07:30:49PM -0600, Adam Conrad wrote: If upstream doesn't intend to reuse version numbers, you're over- complicating with the PPA business. Just do this soft release to proposed, test it and, if it sucks, remove and iterate, if it's good, everyone wins. If the concen

Re: Juju SRU and QA plans

2014-10-08 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 06:49:05AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Steve Langasek [2014-10-07 17:14 -0700]: Given that Juju is covered by a provisional micro release exception[1], I don't understand the ordering concern. MREs are granted on the condition that the upstream release process is

Re: Juju SRU and QA plans

2014-10-08 Thread Robie Basak
Replying to both Steve and Adam here, since I think they touch upon the same point. On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 05:14:57PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Given that Juju is covered by a provisional micro release exception[1], I don't understand the ordering concern. MREs are granted on the condition

Re: Juju SRU and QA plans

2014-10-08 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 07:34:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: If they aren't going to reuse the version number, why not go ahead and release? Seems much simpler workflow wise and if there's a problem, they're bumping to a new version anyway. Nothing says they have to advertise the new

Juju SRU and QA plans

2014-10-07 Thread Robie Basak
Dear Release Team, I'd like to change how I upload Juju to the archive, both to the development release and SRUs, for QA purposes. I'd like to understand if this is 1) workable technically and the best way to do it; and 2) reasonable and acceptable process-wise. First, an explanation of why I

Re: New component-mismatches for source universe - main

2014-07-30 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 07:28:49PM +, process-component-mismatches-diff wrote: o hiera: hiera [Reverse-Depends: ruby-hiera (MAIN)] Looks like this is just a rename from ruby-hiera to hiera, and the source is the same. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751386 and

Re: New component-mismatches for source universe - main

2014-07-30 Thread Robie Basak
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 09:46:57PM +, process-component-mismatches-diff wrote: o nodejs: nodejs nodejs-dbg nodejs-dev [Reverse-Depends: Rescued from nodejs, node-less] o twitter-bootstrap: libjs-twitter-bootstrap libjs-twitter-bootstrap-docs [Reverse-Depends: Rescued from