Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Ante Karamatić" wrote: >On 16.04.2010 19:45, Douglas Stanley wrote: > >> Isn't that more or less what happens when dpkg configures postfix anyway? Am >> I >> missing something that would make this task so difficult it's not worth >> doing? > >Unfortunately, it's not that easy. postfix's conf

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 16.04.2010 19:45, Douglas Stanley wrote: > Isn't that more or less what happens when dpkg configures postfix anyway? Am I > missing something that would make this task so difficult it's not worth doing? Unfortunately, it's not that easy. postfix's configuration can be edited with 'postconf' t

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Douglas Stanley
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Aurélien Naldi wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Imre Gergely wrote: >> >> Just my two cents... I would agree on the confusion part of the extra >> dovecot-postfix.conf config file... It's an attempt to make the servers >> more user friendly, which I'm no

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Michael Jones
On 04/16/2010 07:00 AM, ubuntu-server-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Imre Gergely wrote: > >> > >> > Just my two cents... I would agree on the confusion part of the extra >> > dovecot-postfix.conf config file... It's an attempt to make the servers >> >

Server Team 20100414 meeting minutes

2010-04-16 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi, Here are the minutes of meeting. They can also be found online with the irc logs here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20100414. Review ACTION points from previous meeting * mathiaz to fix a broken script with bug reporting link above (not done) * ttx to follow up with

Re: RFC: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 16.04.2010 00:47, Mathias Gug wrote: > While the goal is worthwhile the implementation seems to not be the best > option. Using an alternate configuration file breaks a lot of common knowledge > to the point that an upstream developer filed a bug [1] with a patch to > dovecot > to provide addi

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi, On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 07:17:18AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > >Fixing shortcomings in the current implementation seems important but > >please don't stop providing good default configuration and helpers for > >the common needs. > > > > > Well put. There are a LOT fewer requests for he

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Andy Rabagliati
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Scott Kitterman wrote: > "Andy Rabagliati" wrote: > > >Standard configs only. > > > I guess we should also drop the non-standard postfix configuration we ship > too. I guess I should have said standard config *paths* only. Perhaps ship an alternate dovecot-postfix file in

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Aurélien Naldi" wrote: >On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Imre Gergely wrote: >> >> Just my two cents... I would agree on the confusion part of the extra >> dovecot-postfix.conf config file... It's an attempt to make the servers >> more user friendly, which I'm not sure is needed... if somebo

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Imre Gergely wrote: > > Just my two cents... I would agree on the confusion part of the extra > dovecot-postfix.conf config file... It's an attempt to make the servers > more user friendly, which I'm not sure is needed... if somebody wants to > install/configure/a

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Andy Rabagliati" wrote: >On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Egbert Jan wrote: > >> Drop it. It was the first thing I did when i was building a new server. Just >> use the standard configs. Much clearer. > >I agree. Not dovecot/postfix related, but the extra dhcpd.conf (in a different >directory!) for the lt

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Imre Gergely
On 04/16/2010 10:48 AM, Andy Rabagliati wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Egbert Jan wrote: > >> Drop it. It was the first thing I did when i was building a new server. Just >> use the standard configs. Much clearer. > > I agree. Not dovecot/postfix related, but the extra dhcpd.conf (in a different

Re: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Andy Rabagliati
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Egbert Jan wrote: > Drop it. It was the first thing I did when i was building a new server. Just > use the standard configs. Much clearer. I agree. Not dovecot/postfix related, but the extra dhcpd.conf (in a different directory!) for the ltsp config is a major source of confu

RE: remove dovecot-postfix from lucid

2010-04-16 Thread Egbert Jan
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: ubuntu-server-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-server-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Namens Mathias Gug > Verzonden: vrijdag 16 april 2010 0:48 > Aan: ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > CC: iv...@ubuntu.com > Onderwerp: RFC: remove dovecot-postfix from l