Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I feel the same in other ways not related to translations in terms of tryign to search for bugs for instance as well as filing bugs :-/ On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Michael Bauer wrote: > It's hard to say, that's for sure. I suspect many people who struggle > never actually make it as far a

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Bauer
It's hard to say, that's for sure. I suspect many people who struggle never actually make it as far as the list but just give up. Perhaps the figures for translator-only attrition could shed some light on this, if they existed. Also, LP seems to have not so great a reputation out there amongst

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread David Planella
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jared Norris wrote: > Launchpad is actually a very simple yet powerful tool for translations. As > an English speaking based locale I found it very easy to understand and > start translating by reading the instructions on the wiki. I cannot speak > for non-English

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread David Planella
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Michael Bauer wrote: > > 25/05/2013 14:24, sgrìobh David Planella: > > Ok, let's focus on sorting this out instead. As I and others have >> mentioned in the thread, your work is by no means lost, which is the most >> important thing. >> > It's not that I was worr

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread David Planella
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I think that would be a great step forward to determine what can be > improved as it would be beneficial to the project as a whole. Question > becomes how would be the best way to go about determining what can be > improved. > > Jonathan

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Michael Bauer
25/05/2013 14:24, sgrìobh David Planella: Ok, let's focus on sorting this out instead. As I and others have mentioned in the thread, your work is by no means lost, which is the most important thing. It's not that I was worried about having lost the translations - I keep backups of everything.

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread David Planella
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Michael Bauer wrote: > Hi David, > > Thanks for your long answer. I'm sorry if I crossed a bit of a line here > but I actually did re-read my email before sending and toned it down a lot. > I am really very angry right now :/ > > Hi Michael, Ok, let's focus on so

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think that would be a great step forward to determine what can be improved as it would be beneficial to the project as a whole. Question becomes how would be the best way to go about determining what can be improved. @David P Can you explain to us how translation works? Do translators use the l

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Jared Norris
Launchpad is actually a very simple yet powerful tool for translations. As an English speaking based locale I found it very easy to understand and start translating by reading the instructions on the wiki. I cannot speak for non-English based languages as I'm not sure how well the instructions are

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Reason I am saying it its very easy to see the translations, and that stuff that should not be translated can be removed to not appear in pootle. On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Oleg Koptev wrote: > > 2013/5/25 Jonathan Aquilina > >> I have worked with Pootle for Libreoffice translations, fro

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Oleg Koptev
2013/5/25 Jonathan Aquilina > I have worked with Pootle for Libreoffice translations, from what im > seeing here LP makes things alot more confusing why not use pootle for the > translations? > > I guess that's a bit like NIH philosophy ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here) -- ubunt

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I have worked with Pootle for Libreoffice translations, from what im seeing here LP makes things alot more confusing why not use pootle for the translations? On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Michael Bauer wrote: > Hi David, > > Thanks for your long answer. I'm sorry if I crossed a bit of a line

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Michael Bauer
Hi David, Thanks for your long answer. I'm sorry if I crossed a bit of a line here but I actually did re-read my email before sending and toned it down a lot. I am really very angry right now :/ My last suggestion for the day: if https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ is the page that a

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Michael Bauer
Joel, 25/05/2013 12:43, sgrìobh Joel Addison: I would like to say that a lot of the information is there within the Ubuntu wiki and Launchpad, and is fairly obvious. Really? Sure, most folk hit the wiki at least once when they start but I would wager a lot of money that most then just bookmark

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread David Planella
Hi Michael, First of all, all the work that you've done has not been in vain. You can still upload your translations for the latest release and due to message sharing, they will propagate to all Ubuntu versions in Launchpad. Some messages will have changed, but I bet the majority of original Engli

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Michael Bauer
25/05/2013 12:38, sgrìobh Yuri Chornoivan: The new translations should be propagated to all releases, so there are not much things wasted (if at all). This is called translation synchronization. The synchronization works slowly and is not instantly visible. Thanks Yuri but I'm not so sure - th

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Joel Addison
I would like to say that a lot of the information is there within the Ubuntu wiki and Launchpad, and is fairly obvious. For example, Ubuntu releases have always had a codename linked with the version number. Codenames are done alphabetically, so Raring will be newer than Oneiric. Releases are

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Yuri Chornoivan
написане Sat, 25 May 2013 14:22:52 +0300, Michael Bauer : Oh bleeding heck, I've been proofreading the wrong version all this time? Can I at this point say that LP is *really* useless for translators who are not plugged into some kind of Matrix-esque newslink. How many of these non-active

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Michael Bauer
Right, based on this total chaos I find myself in, I will request the blanking of all translations in 13.10. Do I need to file a bug for that or should I contact someone directly? Michael 25/05/2013 12:02, sgrìobh Yuri Chornoivan: But please switch to saucy (13.10) when it will be opened as ra

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Michael Bauer
Oh bleeding heck, I've been proofreading the wrong version all this time? Can I at this point say that LP is *really* useless for translators who are not plugged into some kind of Matrix-esque newslink. How many of these non-active version are there? How many people are still working on them be

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Yuri Chornoivan
написане Sat, 25 May 2013 13:54:32 +0300, Michael Bauer : I'm not entirely sure I got that but I'm guessing that means I should be translating at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+lang/gd anymore. So where *should* I be now? https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread Michael Bauer
I'm not entirely sure I got that but I'm guessing that means I should be translating at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+lang/gd anymore. So where *should* I be now? Foiled by LP yet again :b Michael 25/05/2013 08:21, sgrìobh David Planella: However, note that you are upload

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-25 Thread David Planella
Al 24/05/13 23:12, En/na David Planella ha escrit: > Al 24/05/13 23:10, En/na Michael Bauer ha escrit: >> Yes, I see the upload/import dialogue. It just says awaiting approval or >> something like that, there is no error message or error email. >> >> I made a note of the empathy url before - the po

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-24 Thread David Planella
Al 24/05/13 23:10, En/na Michael Bauer ha escrit: > Yes, I see the upload/import dialogue. It just says awaiting approval or > something like that, there is no error message or error email. > > I made a note of the empathy url before - the po has just disappeared > from the queue again with no exp

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-24 Thread Michael Bauer
Yes, I see the upload/import dialogue. It just says awaiting approval or something like that, there is no error message or error email. I made a note of the empathy url before - the po has just disappeared from the queue again with no explanation: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/onei

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-24 Thread Milo Casagrande
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Michael Bauer wrote: > What does that mean? I downloaded the po and a couple of days later I > uploaded. I'm not aware of anything else I have to watch as a translator on > LP (well, apart from the confusing up/downstream thing and the placeholder > bugs). After y

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-24 Thread Michael Bauer
What does that mean? I downloaded the po and a couple of days later I uploaded. I'm not aware of anything else I have to watch as a translator on LP (well, apart from the confusing up/downstream thing and the placeholder bugs). Michael 24/05/2013 18:23, sgrìobh Milo Casagrande: I checked the

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-24 Thread Michael Bauer
Nothing exotic, I use Virtaal. I've used it before to edit the po files for Ubuntu so I doubt it's Virtaal's fault. Michael 24/05/2013 17:33, sgrìobh Adolfo Jayme Barrientos: Hi Michael, which tool do you use to edit .po files? I’m short of ideas on this, but maybe you should try to validate y

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-24 Thread Milo Casagrande
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Michael Bauer wrote: > Is the po upload broken by any chance? I uploaded 2 (failsafexini and > empathy) last week, nothing happened and eventually they just disappeared > from the queue. I tried again yesterday and still no luck. Anyone tried to > upload something

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-24 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Michael Bauer wrote: > Is the po upload broken by any chance? I uploaded 2 (failsafexini and > empathy) last week, nothing happened and eventually they just disappeared > from the queue. I tried again yesterday and still no luck. Anyone tried to > upload something

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-24 Thread Yuri Chornoivan
написане Fri, 24 May 2013 08:26:03 +0300, Yuri Chornoivan : написане Fri, 24 May 2013 02:30:58 +0300, Michael Bauer : Is the po upload broken by any chance? I uploaded 2 (failsafexini and empathy) last week, nothing happened and eventually they just disappeared from the queue. I tried agai

Re: Uploading po files

2013-05-23 Thread Yuri Chornoivan
написане Fri, 24 May 2013 02:30:58 +0300, Michael Bauer : Is the po upload broken by any chance? I uploaded 2 (failsafexini and empathy) last week, nothing happened and eventually they just disappeared from the queue. I tried again yesterday and still no luck. Anyone tried to upload something

Uploading po files

2013-05-23 Thread Michael Bauer
Is the po upload broken by any chance? I uploaded 2 (failsafexini and empathy) last week, nothing happened and eventually they just disappeared from the queue. I tried again yesterday and still no luck. Anyone tried to upload something recently? Michael -- *Akerbeltz