Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread Sean Miller
Nik Butler wrote: > Open Source software development is as much about Peer approval as it is > scratching some itch. No developer of a OSS project ever stopped to ask > the community if they wanted it, or if they should be doing it, they > went ahead and created it , released it and then waited

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread Nik Butler
Of course what this topic is about is not technical merit or technical delivery. It about the emotional attachment people have to how they wish to locarte and organise their data. I can think of several cases amongst the community where people have expressed preferences for Email over IRC, Web

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread Sean Miller
Here's another suggestion for threading... gmail... Has some very advanced features when it comes to threads... only a case of folks who want that setting up themselves a new account purely for the list and the end result will be something not unlike a forum... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where do 'normal' UK Ubunteros cluster? (Was: Re: Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?)

2006-10-09 Thread Dean Sas
Caroline Ford wrote: > Complaints about top-posting etc make me wonder who we are targeting. > Only long-term geeks care about such things - and yet the point of > Ubuntu is to bring linux to the un-converted, to 'normal' people. Our > target groups will use HTML mail, web mail and won't care abo

[ubuntu-uk] Where do 'normal' UK Ubunteros cluster? (Was: Re: Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?)

2006-10-09 Thread Caroline Ford
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 20:16 +0100, John K Masters wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:02:19 +0100 > Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 07:56:30PM +0100, Sean Miller wrote: > > > I believe this to be a Mailman list, hence do we not already have a > > > way of reading the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread John K Masters
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:02:19 +0100 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 07:56:30PM +0100, Sean Miller wrote: > > I believe this to be a Mailman list, hence do we not already have a > > way of reading the list threaded? > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 07:56:30PM +0100, Sean Miller wrote: > I believe this to be a Mailman list, hence do we not already have a way > of reading the list threaded? > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk Linked at the bottom of every mail. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread Sean Miller
John K Masters wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:26:54 +0100 > Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:37:04PM +0100, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I realise it was spoken about some week ago, but I really do feel >>> that perhaps we should re-v

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread John K Masters
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:26:54 +0100 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:37:04PM +0100, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > wrote: > > Hi > > > > I realise it was spoken about some week ago, but I really do feel > > that perhaps we should re-visit the possibility of an online > > dis

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:37:04PM +0100, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > Hi > > I realise it was spoken about some week ago, but I really do feel that > perhaps we should re-visit the possibility of an online discussion forum. For what purpose? Having a mailing list *and* a forum almost always lead

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread nicholas butler
Isnt all this a little moot ? since the mail lists are archived ? Dont the archives suffice to provide a web source of the conversations. ? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Daniel Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Just to take this slightly off-topic as the BBC ramps up its anti-hacker story) The another issue that the BBC constantly gets wrong (and the rest of the media) is this whole 'hacker' business, it annoys me that fraudsters can be around for centurie

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to be?

2006-10-09 Thread Baza
On 9 Oct 2006, at 17:53, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > Hi Ted, > >> Personally, I prefer discussion forum layout much more than these >> e-mail distributions which often I find difficult to read. > > Please let's stick to email. Some of us are on dozens of mailing > lists > and can keep up with th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to b e?

2006-10-09 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Ted, > I realise it was spoken about some week ago, but I really do feel that > perhaps we should re-visit the possibility of an online discussion > forum. A simple website, with nothing more than a discussion forum if > we want. > ... > Personally, I prefer discussion forum layout much more t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Laptop Keyboard Config

2006-10-09 Thread Ashley Hooper
-- "Stephen Garton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just noticed that on my Acer Aspire 5601 laptop the ? (as in > shift and 3) and capslocks keys do not 'work' in Edgy. > Can anyone suggest a) any work around and b) which package I could > file a bug against. > Please let me know any command

[ubuntu-uk] Online Discussion Forum - To be or not to b e?

2006-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi I realise it was spoken about some week ago, but I really do feel that perhaps we should re-visit the possibility of an online discussion forum. A simple website, with nothing more than a discussion forum if we want. It doesn't have to be anything major. I could rattle one up in a weekend for u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread STONE COLD
so you antivirus progs (kspersky,Lavasoft's ad aware) firewall, spyware removing applications be installed...i used to use them on windows! sorry im new with ubuntu!! :) p.s someone please help with Kdetv..see my other post >From: Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: British Ubuntu Talk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Versions (was release party)

2006-10-09 Thread gord
Long term support generally just refers to how long Canonical will be supporting it, the long term is because dapper is supported by Canonical for a much longer time than the other releases. Unless, however, you are a business this isn't going to mean much, businesses generally can't jump to a new

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:14:05AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Surely the only way to demonstrate it would be to knowingly infect > your own machine? how stupid do you think I am I ain't about to do > that! > qemu/vmware can provide you with a "safe" environment in which to practice. "Safe"

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Tony Arnold
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:51 +0100, Nik Butler wrote: > So . Hence my question.. how easy is it really to make a process from > email to infection. I suspect on Linux, the process would not start from e-mail, mainly because of the lack of execute permission on e-mail attachments and the extra st

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread stude . list+ubuntuuk
oopsy, sent this a minute ago but bounced as I used the wrong email address to send from. > On 09/10/06, Nik Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really want to know if any one has actually > suffered from and can in some way demonstrate to me the following. > > demonstrate a working Linux Vir

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Nik Butler
Tony Arnold wrote: > Nik, > does not say all the attacks were viruses! > True > I've seen plenty of Linux/Unix systems compromised. The vast majority > have been compromised through weak passwords or user's password being > discovered. > As for any system, though we can see our security explo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Tony Arnold
Nik, On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:00 +0100, Nik Butler wrote: > demonstrate a working Linux Virus that can > infect their Ubuntu desktop account ( and other users of that same > machine ) by being launched from a email attachment. > it must infect the core system files. > it must set u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Nicholas Butler
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/breakfast/5414892.stm -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread David Hart
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 09:00:56AM +0100, Nik Butler wrote: > So the BBC have yet again trotted out the same tired old news article [snip] What news article are you talking about? -- David Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubunt

[ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Nik Butler
So the BBC have yet again trotted out the same tired old news article about safe surfing. As usual they dont suggest trying a different opertating system ( well they disparage it as well ! ) but they never really seem to investigate this new story in any depth. Now I know that we talk about it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Laptop Keyboard Config

2006-10-09 Thread Stephen Garton
On 09/10/06, David Morley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In that case I would try irc #ubuntu-laptop on freenode if you wish to > get a more direct answer. Cheers David, I will when I get home tonight. -- Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Laptop Keyboard Config

2006-10-09 Thread David Morley
On 09/10/06, Stephen Garton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09/10/06, David Morley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try changing your keyboard layout in system/preferences/keyboard > > Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have tried this, but will give > it another go. > > > does number 3 work if it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Laptop Keyboard Config

2006-10-09 Thread Stephen Garton
On 09/10/06, David Morley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try changing your keyboard layout in system/preferences/keyboard Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have tried this, but will give it another go. > does number 3 work if it does then there is no reason why shift 3 shouldn't. Yes, the numb

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Laptop Keyboard Config

2006-10-09 Thread David Morley
> I've just noticed that on my Acer Aspire 5601 laptop the £ (as in > shift and 3) and capslocks keys do not 'work' in Edgy. > > Can anyone suggest a) any work around and b) which package I could > file a bug against. Try changing your keyboard layout in system/preferences/keyboard does number 3

[ubuntu-uk] Acer Laptop Keyboard Config

2006-10-09 Thread Stephen Garton
Good Morning All, I've just noticed that on my Acer Aspire 5601 laptop the £ (as in shift and 3) and capslocks keys do not 'work' in Edgy. Can anyone suggest a) any work around and b) which package I could file a bug against. Please let me know any commands I can issue that will help diagnose wh