Re: [ubuntu-uk] £7 laptop in india - runs Linux

2009-02-09 Thread Renjith Nair
"$10-laptop proves to be a damp squib" http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Hyderabad/10-laptop_proves_to_be_a_damp_squib/articleshow/4072417.cms Picture here http://i.gizmodo.com/5145998/indias-10-laptop-basically-a-big-dumb-joke 2009/2/10 David King > From listening to a recent PC Pro podcast,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] any tool in ubuntu to undelete from a sd card!

2009-02-09 Thread javadayaz
before i hit the hay just wanted to sayyay it worked 2009/2/10 javadayaz > ok sorry in my pamic i may have used the app wrong. im running it again!!! > :) > > wish me luck > > 2009/2/10 javadayaz > > well i took the card out almost straight away. i have also installed test >> disk aka photo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] any tool in ubuntu to undelete from a sd card!

2009-02-09 Thread javadayaz
ok sorry in my pamic i may have used the app wrong. im running it again!!! :) wish me luck 2009/2/10 javadayaz > well i took the card out almost straight away. i have also installed test > disk aka photorec but that didnt find anything. > > Its not just pics though its other stuff in there like

Re: [ubuntu-uk] any tool in ubuntu to undelete from a sd card!

2009-02-09 Thread javadayaz
well i took the card out almost straight away. i have also installed test disk aka photorec but that didnt find anything. Its not just pics though its other stuff in there like .3gp videos 2009/2/10 Matt Jones > First of all, don't do anything to the G1 AT ALL, probably best to > whip the batte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] any tool in ubuntu to undelete from a sd card!

2009-02-09 Thread javadayaz
damn...im gona have to relearn how to install from source. i havent done it for ages! :( lol 2009/2/10 Paul Sladen > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, javadayaz wrote: > > Uh oh.I've just deleted important stuff from my g1. Any ubuntu tools > > Try 'magicrescue' (from searching for 'undelete'). > >-Pa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] any tool in ubuntu to undelete from a sd card!

2009-02-09 Thread Matt Jones
First of all, don't do anything to the G1 AT ALL, probably best to whip the battery out. I would recommend Photorec, it's in the repos. Follow the instructions on the website for a good explanation of how to use it. Matt. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:56 PM, javadayaz wrote: > Uh oh.I've just delet

Re: [ubuntu-uk] £7 laptop in india - runs Linux

2009-02-09 Thread David King
From listening to a recent PC Pro podcast, this £7 "laptop" is not a laptop at all, but just an external storage device of some kind to attach to existing computers. Whatever it is, it will probably have an embedded OS based on Linux. But please do not believe everything you read in the Daily

Re: [ubuntu-uk] any tool in ubuntu to undelete from a sd card!

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sladen
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, javadayaz wrote: > Uh oh.I've just deleted important stuff from my g1. Any ubuntu tools Try 'magicrescue' (from searching for 'undelete'). -Paul -- Why do one side of a triangle when you can do all three. Somewhere, GB. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread David King
I signed the petition as well. I am thinking that the schools'/education system's thinking is a bit out of date. Why teach the children just one OS when there are many choices now in the real world? Not all companies use the same OS. Some use Windows XP, some use Windows Vista, and on servers t

[ubuntu-uk] any tool in ubuntu to undelete from a sd card!

2009-02-09 Thread javadayaz
Uh oh.I've just deleted important stuff from my g1. Any ubuntu tools I can use to get it back? I know a few in windows but I don't wana have to use that! Thanks javad -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] computer fairs

2009-02-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/2/9 Paul Sutton : > I am sure if one was organised there are enough of us here, on both > lists to have a good presence to represent free software. > I applaud your optimism. Past history indicates this isn't necessarily an accurate prediction of the future. Go with it though, it's certainly

Re: [ubuntu-uk] computer fairs

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > The good news is that one of our very own - Alan Cocks is doing great > work in Bracknell, Berkshire. He's probably run more stands at > computer fairs than any of the other teams put together! > > If you want to know anything about running stan

Re: [ubuntu-uk] computer fairs

2009-02-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/2/9 Matt Jones : > http://infopointproject.org/wordpress/ > Looks to be a little dead now, but was exactly what you described, I > think it was started by Jono and some of the other lugradio guys. It was indeed kicked off by Jono. It has passed around a few people. SussexLUG did a few comput

Re: [ubuntu-uk] £7 laptop in india - runs Linux

2009-02-09 Thread Alec Wright
Read about this in the guardian a while back. I agree with chris - any laptop would probably be worth more than that even as scrap. 2009/2/9 Paul Sutton : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yay > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1134609/India-set-launch-worlds-ch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] £7 laptop in india - runs Linux

2009-02-09 Thread javadayaz
i dont think its going to be that cheap. Especially in a country where a cheapy crappy basic of the shelf nokia will cost you at least Rs2000. Thats like £15 or something! :) 2009/2/9 Chris Rowson > > > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: [ubuntu-uk] £7 laptop in india - runs Linux

2009-02-09 Thread Chris Rowson
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yay > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1134609/India-set-launch-worlds-cheapest-laptop--7.html > > Paul > - -- > Paul Sutton I'm a wee bit dubious about that claim lol! Ch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] computer fairs

2009-02-09 Thread Matt Jones
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I did a google search for uk computer fairs and found the followin site > > http://www.britishcomputerfairs.com/index.htm > > there is a contact form, on the site which I tried to use to ask

[ubuntu-uk] £7 laptop in india - runs Linux

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yay http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1134609/India-set-launch-worlds-cheapest-laptop--7.html Paul - -- Paul Sutton www.zleap.net Support Open and ISO standard file formats ISO 26300 odf http://www.odfalliance.org Next Linux User Group m

[ubuntu-uk] BugJam in Birmingham

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Meredith
Just to announce that details are now on the wiki about the Birmingham Venue for the BugJam. I still need to get a few more details, like seating arrangements etc, but please, do sign up on the wiki if interested, espescially if you're interested in leading a session. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/

[ubuntu-uk] computer fairs

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I did a google search for uk computer fairs and found the followin site http://www.britishcomputerfairs.com/index.htm there is a contact form, on the site which I tried to use to ask for more fairs here in devon as the nearest one is bristol However

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools (UK Marketing!)

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I just wish there were computer fairs down here in Devon, there used to > be one a few years back but nothing like that now, the nearest thing is > a car boot sale. I wonder actually if we'd be able to give away Ubuntu > CDs at car boot sales wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] marketing - oops included url this time

2009-02-09 Thread James Milligan
Thanks! On 9 Feb 2009, at 19:39, Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > James Milligan wrote: >> Sorry if I've missed something but where can you get the files? >> >> James > > > www.zleap.net > under downloads then under ubuntu. > > > > Paul >> >> On 9 Feb 2009

[ubuntu-uk] N.H.S

2009-02-09 Thread Rik Boland
There has been talk about Microslop getting out of schools but what about the NHS how much does it cost per year for them to use Microslow.  Is it one nurse, or a ward or even more? Rik Boland 15 Stanley Place, Lancaster, LA1 5PN  Mobile 07866439588 We need Justice but we also need Grace a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] marketing - oops included url this time

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Milligan wrote: > Sorry if I've missed something but where can you get the files? > > James www.zleap.net under downloads then under ubuntu. Paul > > On 9 Feb 2009, at 19:20, Paul Sutton wrote: > > Hi > > I have created a mini advert ty

Re: [ubuntu-uk] marketing

2009-02-09 Thread James Milligan
Sorry if I've missed something but where can you get the files? James On 9 Feb 2009, at 19:20, Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > > I have created a mini advert type thing thats probably small enough to > go in the window of a shop, (e.g newsagent),

[ubuntu-uk] marketing

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I have created a mini advert type thing thats probably small enough to go in the window of a shop, (e.g newsagent), it has link to the dcglug, but its aimed and promoting ubuntu and more importantly support networks via the lug, (mail discussion

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools (UK Marketing!)

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Beard
alan c wrote: > Marketing! > Marketing is the key skill with a company such as MS. It is also the > weakest point with FOSS. > > Yep, I think part of the problem is the fact that as individuals we probably don't have much money to put into marketing. In my area I've been giving out Ubuntu CD

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/2/8 Vinothan Shankar : > I've created a petition to the Prime Minister to make the primary OS in > schools free and open source - it can be found at > http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools. To anyone that points > out I should have suggested Ubuntu for Education, the first submission

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools (UK Marketing!)

2009-02-09 Thread Alec Wright
Imho, a great place to advertise would be the morning star newspaper: http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk Its socialist/communist, so it would be good targeted advertising (since socialism/communism=no to capitalism eg big companies like Microsoft) The circulations not bad at about 50,000 copies sol

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools (UK Marketing!)

2009-02-09 Thread alan c
Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > You could probably go with having MS on the admin network, then Linux or > fre softare on the academic network, > > eventually people will filter through who can and want to use > alternatives, then chance will come > > pro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Rik Boland
I did the European Driving License a few years ago and there was no mention of open source alternatives.  I didn't know about it untill a friend told me about Linux because soloey because me Microslop PC was broken and had to buy another copy of XP to fix it.  This I couldn't afford. Rik Boland

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread alan c
Harry Rickards wrote: > Someone I know who goes to a CLAIT course was told that an Operating System > meant Windows, no mention of Linux or Mac OSX, and that an application was > simply either an MS Office App or IE, again do mention of OpenOffice or > Firefox. Maybe the instructors don't even know

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Rik Boland
That style letter was understandable from Microslop how ever they did forget to say that they also give free lolly pops to all the starving children in the developing countries that they advertise there products Rik Boland 15 Stanley Place, Lancaster, LA1 5PN  Mobile 07866439588 We need Jus

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Andrew Oakley
LeeGroups wrote: > Andrew Oakley wrote: [MS home/academic/student licences at up to 90% discount] > > If you try to argue against Microsoft on grounds of price, > > you'll fail every time. Home users, schools, universities > > and students don't pay full rate for software. Only ... > I understand

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Harry Rickards
Someone I know who goes to a CLAIT course was told that an Operating System meant Windows, no mention of Linux or Mac OSX, and that an application was simply either an MS Office App or IE, again do mention of OpenOffice or Firefox. Maybe the instructors don't even know alternatives to MS software e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread LeeGroups
>> There used to be a saying in the computer industry which was "Nobody >> ever got fired for buying IBM". >> I think it's shifted to Microsoft. Speaking from experience, >> most school "IT department heads" don't know that much about IT. >> They perceive it as a 'safe' option to go with MS, eve

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread alan c
LeeGroups wrote: >> Aparently primnary schools are forced to use MS office so the children >> are ready for what is used in Secondary schools which is I guess a fair >> argument i guess. And i guess secondaries feel obliged to use MS office >> as they see it as "industry standard." > There used to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Beard
Philip Stubbs wrote: > I don't think I will sign. Simply, I don't think that schools should > teach how to use MS Office or OpenOffice. What they should teach is > how to use a spreadsheet and a word processor. A selection should then > be made available and the students allowed to get a feel for d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Harry Rickards
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:20:27 +, Rob Beard wrote: > Harry Rickards wrote: >> Even if school's don't solely use Windows, they usually have to use it as >> the main OS, as the AQA exam software only works with Windows, not under >> Wine; and the SIMS software uses MS Word to view files, which can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Beard
Harry Rickards wrote: > Even if school's don't solely use Windows, they usually have to use it as > the main OS, as the AQA exam software only works with Windows, not under > Wine; and the SIMS software uses MS Word to view files, which cannot be > changed to OpenOffice even on Windows as it's hard

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exwick community centre

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Beard
Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have posted Rob Beards report to the lug wiki and now added a link > to > the LTSP site, Will try to add more information as I get it. > > Can't do too much as I wasn't directly involved in the problem. > > http://

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Harry Rickards
I haven't tried it myself, but according to http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sf-uk-mias/browse_thread/thread/9944ecbcb49896cf?hl=en&q=sims#b482426374ef3534, http://www.edugeek.net/forums/office-software/29498-open-office-v-ms-office.html, http://www.edugeek.net/forums/mis-systems/4504-sims-net-does

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exwick Community Centre in Exeter - pictures

2009-02-09 Thread Rob Beard
Sean Miller wrote: > Hi Rob, > > Can you just post a little about the infrastructure you've put in place? > > Is this thin client? > > Sean > Yep no problem. Basically (a shortened version), the system is using Ubuntu 8.04.2 with the LTSP server packages installed and a few extra applications

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Andrew Oakley
LeeGroups wrote > There used to be a saying in the computer industry which was "Nobody > ever got fired for buying IBM". > I think it's shifted to Microsoft. Speaking from experience, > most school "IT department heads" don't know that much about IT. > They perceive it as a 'safe' option to go wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Robert Flatters
Your cause is honorable however for Linux to turn the trend. you must first prove to those schools that Linux is better and that it can do things far better than windows. In the Linux community there has to be a leap in ideas where when the user logs on he/she is presented, ready to use icons on th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/2/8 Vinothan Shankar : > I've created a petition to the Prime Minister to make the primary OS in > schools free and open source - it can be found at > http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools. To anyone that points > out I should have suggested Ubuntu for Education, the first submission

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/2/9 LeeGroups : > Without wishing to sound like a know-it-all, if the SIMS software uses > an XML file to control what's used to view files (as per your mail > below), then XML files can easily be altered... they are straight ASCII > files which can be edited with Notepad... Its OK, you are a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You could probably go with having MS on the admin network, then Linux or fre softare on the academic network, eventually people will filter through who can and want to use alternatives, then chance will come problem is MS seem to have a huge marketin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread LeeGroups
That's true, but aren't they both adminstrative functions? How many PC's are there in an average school vs. the average number of adminstrative PC's? Lee Without wishing to sound like a know-it-all, if the SIMS software uses an XML file to control what's used to view files (as per your mail b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good point, so perhaps we should lobby the AQA to use open standards. Paul Harry Rickards wrote: > Even if school's don't solely use Windows, they usually have to use it as > the main OS, as the AQA exam software only works with Windows, not under

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Harry Rickards
Even if school's don't solely use Windows, they usually have to use it as the main OS, as the AQA exam software only works with Windows, not under Wine; and the SIMS software uses MS Word to view files, which cannot be changed to OpenOffice even on Windows as it's hardcoded into the XML file. On M

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exwick community centre - url fix

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> http://www.dcglug.org.uk/members/wiki/?id=Saturday+7th+February+2009+-+Exwick+Community+Centre%2C+Exeter >> > > That URL just gave me a 401 response. Probably not what you intended. :-) > > Cofion, > Neil. > http://www.dcglug.org.uk/wiki/?id

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exwick community centre

2009-02-09 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/2/9 Paul Sutton : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have posted Rob Beards report to the lug wiki and now added a link to > the LTSP site, Will try to add more information as I get it. > > Can't do too much as I wasn't directly involved in the problem. > > http://www.d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread LeeGroups
> Aparently primnary schools are forced to use MS office so the children > are ready for what is used in Secondary schools which is I guess a fair > argument i guess. And i guess secondaries feel obliged to use MS office > as they see it as "industry standard." There used to be a saying in the co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aparently primnary schools are forced to use MS office so the children are ready for what is used in Secondary schools which is I guess a fair argument i guess. And i guess secondaries feel obliged to use MS office as they see it as "industry standard

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread doug livesey
Signed -- cheers for setting that up. Doug. 2009/2/9 David King > The other way to get windows out of schools is to remove the glass and > replace with bricks :-) > > David King > > > Vinothan Shankar wrote: > > I've created a petition to the Prime Minister to make the primary OS in > > school

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools

2009-02-09 Thread David King
The other way to get windows out of schools is to remove the glass and replace with bricks :-) David King Vinothan Shankar wrote: > I've created a petition to the Prime Minister to make the primary OS in > schools free and open source - it can be found at > http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/non

[ubuntu-uk] Exwick community centre

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have posted Rob Beards report to the lug wiki and now added a link to the LTSP site, Will try to add more information as I get it. Can't do too much as I wasn't directly involved in the problem. http://www.dcglug.org.uk/members/wiki/?id=Saturday

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exwick Community Centre in Exeter - pictures

2009-02-09 Thread Chris Bagley
Very cool, I too would love to hear more about this setup -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/