Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-12 Thread LeeGroups
Firstly, the vast majority of teachers don't have the skills of knowledge to be able to teach anything other than office skills - and even then most can't even do that properly! You can say that again! The school I work at has 50+ teachers. Half of then can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-12 Thread Grant Sewell
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:54:15 +0100 LeeGroups wrote: Secondly, the majority of children don't care about how a computer works (any more than they care how a car works) - they just want to use it. Yes, this is very true. Even my own kids aren't bothered despite the prodding from me. The kids

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-08 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 07/06/2011 07:24, alan c wrote: There is an overwhelming swirl and momentum of the broader establishment which pulls (I was going to say 'sucks'...) into Microsoft products. Absolutely. there was a question in the Daily Telegraph Tech column only yesterday about opening attachments - the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-07 Thread alan c
On 06/06/11 17:57, Paul Tansom wrote: I don't know how many people watch Click on the BBC News channel, but I thought I'd note that they had a piece on the Raspberry Pi on the last one (over the weekend), with a mention of Ubuntu as part of a piece on the lack of decent IT education in schools

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-07 Thread Andrés Muñiz Piniella
Still haven't seen the BBC click video that started this but I like where it is going! I did give a slight thought as how to engage a class to learn a bit of programming or open (free) software culture. I came up with a silly idea but I'll just say it. 1) Get the kids to agree what they would

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-07 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! You may be interested to know that I'm an adult education tutor, ICT being one of my subject areas. Just recently I've managed to get our local adult education service (on North Tyneside) to put on a courses this autumn dealing with both FOSS and GNU-Linux (specifically Ubuntu), with me

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-07 Thread alan c
On 07/06/11 14:58, Bea Groves wrote: Hi! You may be interested to know that I'm an adult education tutor, ICT being one of my subject areas. Just recently I've managed to get our local adult education service (on North Tyneside) to put on a courses this autumn dealing with both FOSS and

[ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread Paul Tansom
I don't know how many people watch Click on the BBC News channel, but I thought I'd note that they had a piece on the Raspberry Pi on the last one (over the weekend), with a mention of Ubuntu as part of a piece on the lack of decent IT education in schools and the need to do it better - i.e.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread J Fernyhough
On 6 June 2011 17:57, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote: I don't know how many people watch Click on the BBC News channel, but I thought I'd note that they had a piece on the Raspberry Pi on the last one (over the weekend), with a mention of Ubuntu as part of a piece on the lack of decent IT

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread Avi Greenbury
J Fernyhough wrote: Firstly, the vast majority of teachers don't have the skills of knowledge to be able to teach anything other than office skills This is precisely what's *wanted* in order that IT teachers can teach IT. At the moment, the IT taught in school is an introduction to using

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread Grant Sewell
On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:13:29 +0100 J Fernyhough wrote: On 6 June 2011 17:57, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote: I don't know how many people watch Click on the BBC News channel, but I thought I'd note that they had a piece on the Raspberry Pi on the last one (over the weekend), with a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread J Fernyhough
I agree with much of what you say - I'm going to respond inline for the discussion. On 6 June 2011 18:42, Avi Greenbury li...@avi.co wrote: J Fernyhough wrote: Firstly, the vast majority of teachers don't have the skills of knowledge to be able to teach anything other than office skills

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread Alan Bell
I have heard with my own ears teachers complaining about applications having a learning curve. . . why would anyone want to use something in school that didn't have a learning curve I wonder. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread scralion...@gmail.com
That is a distinctly good question, I have been using computers, in some shape or form, since I was a young child, and without giving my age, that is a long time. And learn something new everyday, so my learning curve could be considered as being decades. Pmt -- Sent from my Android phone with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hiyas, I'm only on just above 'nodding' terms with edubuntu, but have seen that they do have a good support group for the newcomers to it. As it is teachers talking to teachers, they do have a far better understanding of the specifics for classroom / computer labs than we could ever have. It is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread J Fernyhough
On 6 June 2011 21:07, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Maybe Ubuntu-UK would like to propose 'adopt a school / college' - It would certainly get the LoCo about 2,000,000 brownie points for 'all the good things we do' for re-election of the UK LoCo to remain official? just a thought...

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread Grant Sewell
On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:19:25 +0100 J Fernyhough wrote: On 6 June 2011 21:07, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Maybe Ubuntu-UK would like to propose 'adopt a school / college' - It would certainly get the LoCo about 2,000,000 brownie points for 'all the good things we do' for

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread Phill Whiteside
As some one who pops lubuntu onto old kit, I am certainly up for it in my local area. My problem being that I do get dragged across England for months at a time in my job as 'Holding Mananger' for bars (pubs). If I were to start one here in Warrington, I'd need to know there was some one to take

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click

2011-06-06 Thread Paul Tansom
** J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com [2011-06-06 19:22]: I agree with much of what you say - I'm going to respond inline for the discussion. On 6 June 2011 18:42, Avi Greenbury li...@avi.co wrote: J Fernyhough wrote: Firstly, the vast majority of teachers don't have the skills of

[ubuntu-uk] BBC Click - on Open Source

2009-07-04 Thread alan c
Click: 4 July 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/8133701.stm -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click - on Open Source

2009-07-04 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 04/07/09 09:22, alan c wrote: Click: 4 July 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/8133701.stm Thanks Alan, Rather succinct coverage but coverage nevertheless... Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click - on Open Source

2009-07-04 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: Click: 4 July 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/8133701.stm DIgg it? http://digg.com/linux_unix/BBC_NEWS_Programmes_Click_How_open_source_is_growing_up -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-15 Thread Saltire
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of alan c Sent: 10 June 2007 23:03 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu The recent weekend TV program of BBC Click was devoted to Open source, Ubuntu, an an interview with Mark

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-15 Thread Rob Beard
Alan c wrote: The recent weekend TV program of BBC Click was devoted to Open source, Ubuntu, an an interview with Mark Shuttleworth. I can manage to get it to play using Real player, but I cannot think of how to capture the stream to view it later.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread Jim Kissel
Alex Latchford wrote: Robert McWilliam wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:43:31 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which appears to be the url of the wmv file(s) but rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.wmv by itself does not launch in firefox, what

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu: Mark II

2007-06-12 Thread Jim Kissel
Alex Latchford wrote: Robert McWilliam wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:43:31 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which appears to be the url of the wmv file(s) but rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.wmv by itself does not launch in firefox, what

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:53:32 +0100 Jim Kissel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone up the ante with a better URL or an alternate method to view/download Click? (ubuntu 7.04 FF) The method using mplayer elsewhere in this thread (See Alan Pope's email for complete instructions) worked for me

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu: Mark II

2007-06-12 Thread Adam Funk
On 2007-06-12, Jim Kissel wrote: In my case firefox has a player installed for wmv files and starts to play this stream in the browser. All I see is the tail end of a bbc weather forcast. Just the bbc weather logo and about 5 seconds of sound. Then nothing. wget doesn't get much. Can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread Alex Latchford
alan c wrote: I can manage to get it to play using Real player, but I cannot think of how to capture the stream to view it later. Open it using the Windows Media Player.. You will get a .asx file, go to the source, copy the URL, download that file.. (Using 'File - Save Page As..').. Then

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread alan c
Andy wrote: On 10/06/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then you find the address of the actual feed and check it plays in mplayer If it does (it should do) then add -dumpstream on the command line. Forgot to mention: There is an open in standalone player link. Right click that and chose

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread Kris Marsh
On 6/11/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy wrote: On 10/06/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then you find the address of the actual feed and check it plays in mplayer If it does (it should do) then add -dumpstream on the command line. Forgot to mention: There is an open in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Alan, On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 08:16 +0100, alan c wrote: Note this:- Then add the flag -playlist to the mplayer command line (the link is to a .ram, and this is a list of .rm files to play). Thanks. I have installed mplayer, and trying to begin most simply, used cl: Then this:-

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread alan c
Alex Latchford wrote: alan c wrote: I can manage to get it to play using Real player, but I cannot think of how to capture the stream to view it later. Open it using the Windows Media Player.. You will get a .asx file, go to the source, copy the URL, download that file.. (Using 'File -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Alan, On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 08:16 +0100, alan c wrote: Note this:- Then add the flag -playlist to the mplayer command line (the link is to a .ram, and this is a list of .rm files to play). Thanks. I have installed mplayer, and trying to begin most simply, used

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:43:31 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which appears to be the url of the wmv file(s) but rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.wmv by itself does not launch in firefox, what should I now be doing? thanks I don't think firefox

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread Alex Latchford
Robert McWilliam wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:43:31 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which appears to be the url of the wmv file(s) but rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.wmv by itself does not launch in firefox, what should I now be doing?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:24:59 +0100 Alex Latchford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just change the protocol to http.. Is that a general feature of rtsp (i.e. rtsp is http + support for pausing and seeking) or does it rely on the server speaking http as well as rtsp?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-11 Thread Alex Latchford
Robert McWilliam wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:24:59 +0100 Alex Latchford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just change the protocol to http.. Is that a general feature of rtsp (i.e. rtsp is http + support for pausing and seeking) or does it rely on the server speaking http as well as rtsp?

[ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-10 Thread alan c
The recent weekend TV program of BBC Click was devoted to Open source, Ubuntu, an an interview with Mark Shuttleworth. I can manage to get it to play using Real player, but I cannot think of how to capture the stream to view it later. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/ ('watch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-10 Thread Andy
On 10/06/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can manage to get it to play using Real player, but I cannot think of how to capture the stream to view it later. Ah there's a simple trick to that. You need mplayer. Then you find the address of the actual feed and check it plays in mplayer If it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu

2007-06-10 Thread Andy
On 10/06/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then you find the address of the actual feed and check it plays in mplayer If it does (it should do) then add -dumpstream on the command line. Forgot to mention: There is an open in standalone player link. Right click that and chose copy link location