Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread pmgazz
Sounds like I ought to revisit Debian installation . . . On 20/07/10 16:20, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Liam Proven wrote: Real Debian is getting pretty good these days - it's smaller and faster than Ubuntu and the default Gnome desktop is much the same. It w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > Real Debian is getting pretty good these days - it's smaller and > faster than Ubuntu and the default Gnome desktop is much the same. It > was just that getting firmware for my wifi card and so on was a bit of > a pain. It is vastly easier to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Liam Proven
On 20 July 2010 15:25, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> Me, I'm watching Crunchbang with interest, but it's not a beginners' >> distro. > > Crunchbang is awesome - I set it up for my wife who was complaining about > performance on her EEEPC 701,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread pmgazz
Thanks - I'll have a look at Lubuntu when I get a minute :) Crunchbag looks interesting but interface needs to be for beginners when dealing with non-techies . . . On 20/07/10 14:51, Liam Proven wrote: That is what Ubuntu Lite tried to be - later rebadged U-Lite. We never got the critical ma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > > Me, I'm watching Crunchbang with interest, but it's not a beginners' > distro. > Crunchbang is awesome - I set it up for my wife who was complaining about performance on her EEEPC 701, and have since run it on other hardware that has less t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Liam Proven
On 20 July 2010 11:54, pmgazz wrote: > Also takes a lot of fiddling about to set up a custom Debian desktop and I > don't have time to make a habit of it. It's a while since I reviewed all the > packaged lightweight desktops and there's been a lot of development since > then, I'll have a look at P

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread pmgazz
Also takes a lot of fiddling about to set up a custom Debian desktop and I don't have time to make a habit of it. It's a while since I reviewed all the packaged lightweight desktops and there's been a lot of development since then, I'll have a look at Peppermint. There was an Ubuntu-lite versio

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread LeeGroups
> I'm hoping as a LUG in Devon we can start to do more of this in the > future, I'd even refurbish machines and stick Ubuntu on them if it > wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old > machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on them > (I think he'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 16:10, pmgazz wrote: > P3s run great as thin clients (just need a pxe card) and the ubiquitous > P3 compaqs have them already. But if people haven't got any money at > all, the the LTSP option is a stretch as they need at least one halfway > decent machine - but if they can stump up a c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 19/07/10 13:42, Rob Beard wrote: > I'm hoping as a LUG in Devon we can start to do more of this in the > future, I'd even refurbish machines and stick Ubuntu on them if it > wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old > machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Off

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 15:47, Alan Pope wrote: > On 19 July 2010 11:53, Alan Pope wrote: >> What events local to you would you like to see a stand at? >> > > If you know of any specific events near you, maybe you could add them > to this page:-http://childrensweek.co.uk/home.htm > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/U

[ubuntu-uk] Non Technical Events

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
Totally agree -- really important to stay positive and focus on benefits. Also agree that speed and relief from 'drive by' downloads etc is a major selling point :) Paula One thing I've learned after years of attending trade and techie exhibitions is that knocking the opposition doesn't ac

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
P3s run great as thin clients (just need a pxe card) and the ubiquitous P3 compaqs have them already. But if people haven't got any money at all, the the LTSP option is a stretch as they need at least one halfway decent machine - but if they can stump up a couple of hundred quid for a basic dua

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 15:39, pmgazz wrote: > > > On 19/07/10 15:24, Dianne Reuby wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 13:42 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: >> >>> if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old >>> machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on >>> them (I think

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 14:16, pmgazz wrote: > I've done a bit of this - I've demo'd an Ubuntu LTSP and also laptops at > voluntary sector events - people don't 'get' what an operating system is > and tend to think that MS Win is 'part of the machine'. They have to > have a reason for considering changing OS a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Pope
On 19 July 2010 11:53, Alan Pope wrote: > What events local to you would you like to see a stand at? > If you know of any specific events near you, maybe you could add them to this page:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NonTechEvents Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
On 19/07/10 15:24, Dianne Reuby wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 13:42 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on them (I think he's either got a whole load of Office 2003 lic

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Dianne Reuby
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 13:42 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: > if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old > machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on > them (I think he's either got a whole load of Office 2003 licenses he > wants to give away or he's ins

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
I've done a bit of this - I've demo'd an Ubuntu LTSP and also laptops at voluntary sector events - people don't 'get' what an operating system is and tend to think that MS Win is 'part of the machine'. They have to have a reason for considering changing OS and I find that being able to help the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 11:53, Alan Pope wrote: > Hey! > > We seem to be quite good at turning up to technical events such as LUG > meetings, technical conferences and other self-organised events and > telling everyone how great Ubuntu is. However we seem to spend a lot > of time preaching to the converted, sp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/07/10 13:21, pmgazz wrote: > Environmental events are good, foreground stuff like how to refurbish > their XP kit and keep perfectly good electronic kit out of landfill . . . > > Paula I agree, someone in our local LUG donated a couple of old PCs (I think they were around early Pentium 2's)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread pmgazz
Environmental events are good, foreground stuff like how to refurbish their XP kit and keep perfectly good electronic kit out of landfill . . . Paula On 19/07/10 11:53, Alan Pope wrote: Hey! We seem to be quite good at turning up to technical events such as LUG meetings, technical conferences

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 19/07/10 11:53, Alan Pope wrote: > > What events local to you would you like to see a stand at? > The West Dean Chilli Fiesta! http://www.westdean.org.uk/Garden/News%20and%20Events/ChilliFiesta.aspx Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.

[ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Pope
Hey! We seem to be quite good at turning up to technical events such as LUG meetings, technical conferences and other self-organised events and telling everyone how great Ubuntu is. However we seem to spend a lot of time preaching to the converted, speaking to people who already run Ubuntu or some