Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-02-02 Thread treb0r
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 08:38 +, Alan Pope wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:38:11PM +, baza wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:30 +, alan c wrote: > > > London School of Puppetry wrote: > > > > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us > > > > isn't > > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-31 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:38:11PM +, baza wrote: >> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:30 +, alan c wrote: >> > London School of Puppetry wrote: >> > > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't >> > > itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslik

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-31 Thread London School of Puppetry
On 29/01/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:15 +, London School of Puppetry wrote: > In our area, there are at least two experts who travel around the area > giving help, installing repairing etc on the spot face to face- there > are many computer literate elde

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-31 Thread baza
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 08:38 +, Alan Pope wrote: > > The best advice anyone can give, IMHO, is to burn your 'home' directory > > to CD or DVD every month, that way if you system does the big firework > > you can reinstall and keep (most) of you data. > > > > Heh, that might not be quite so ea

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-31 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:38:11PM +, baza wrote: > On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:30 +, alan c wrote: > > London School of Puppetry wrote: > > > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't > > > itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslike most of the ordinary

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-30 Thread baza
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:30 +, alan c wrote: > London School of Puppetry wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't > > itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslike most of the ordinary > > world should be able to access Ubuntu and other OSS > > a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-30 Thread alan c
London School of Puppetry wrote: > Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't > itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslike most of the ordinary > world should be able to access Ubuntu and other OSS > and know that there is exactly the same expert support avail

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-30 Thread London School of Puppetry
On 30/01/07, Nicholas Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Adding my tuppence plus vat to this conversation. Should there be a list ? I think a list somewhere on the wiki and related to the already established LUG list ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/UKLugMembers ) which details people who are w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-30 Thread London School of Puppetry
On 29/01/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:20 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't been following the list too closely lately but I've just a > quick look through some of the comments about this subject. I hope > this hasn't already been said but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-30 Thread Nicholas Butler
Adding my tuppence plus vat to this conversation. Should there be a list ? I think a list somewhere on the wiki and related to the already established LUG list ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/UKLugMembers ) which details people who are willing to be contacted to provide help and assistance on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-30 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 29/01/07, London School of Puppetry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think people should be paid..it is always possible not to charge if > you can tell it would be difficult. > But you all have to eat.I wonder if charging for this kind of support > flies in the face of OSS being free as a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread SteVe Cook
London School of Puppetry wrote: > I think people should be paid..it is always possible not to charge > if you can tell it would be difficult. > But you all have to eat.I wonder if charging for this kind of > support flies in the face of OSS being free as a kind of principle?Caroline > T

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread London School of Puppetry
I think people should be paid..it is always possible not to charge if you can tell it would be difficult. But you all have to eat.I wonder if charging for this kind of support flies in the face of OSS being free as a kind of principle?Caroline On 29/01/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread London School of Puppetry
Sounds ok £30.00 an hour- but that hour could be quite a long hour if you have to travel for another hour to get to the customer. Caroline On 29/01/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:15 +, London School of Puppetry wrote: > In our area, there are at least two

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread London School of Puppetry
Hi Jonathan, I agree but I think the problem is wider than just us isn't itI'm concerned that non-groupy typeslike most of the ordinary world should be able to access Ubuntu and other OSS and know that there is exactly the same expert support available as there is for Windows etc. Caroline

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread paul mellors
Alan Pope wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:15 +, London School of Puppetry wrote: > >> In our area, there are at least two experts who travel around the area >> giving help, installing repairing etc on the spot face to face- there >> are many computer literate elderly who benefit enormously

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:20 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't been following the list too closely lately but I've just a > quick look through some of the comments about this subject. I hope > this hasn't already been said but I'd suggest people join their local > LUG! I comp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:15 +, London School of Puppetry wrote: > In our area, there are at least two experts who travel around the area > giving help, installing repairing etc on the spot face to face- there > are many computer literate elderly who benefit enormously from this > service (Windo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 20:57 +, Robin Menneer wrote: > Ok then, you have to earn a living. What about the retireds doing it > on flexitime ? Some protection would have to be provided against the > no-hopers, who might just have to be told this, whether they liked it > or not. The retireds are

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:19 +, London School of Puppetry wrote: > I understand exactly what you are saying. But no-one would expect > anything for nothing. If my neighbour is paying for a local Windows > chap to do an hour's work sorting her crashing computer out then > surely there has to be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Jonathan Roberts
Hi all, I haven't been following the list too closely lately but I've just a quick look through some of the comments about this subject. I hope this hasn't already been said but I'd suggest people join their local LUG! I've found the people in mine to be very helpful and are quite willing to come

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread London School of Puppetry
I have just had areply to my email- one of the links someone sent. A company in Leeds, say they are experts in Windows and Linux and cover my area- they charge £70 for the first callout hour then £40 per hour afterwards. Company is called Problem Solved. Caroline > > What I had in mind was m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Matthew East
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 20:23 +, Alan Pope wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 19:33 +, Matthew East wrote: > > What I had in mind was more something by way of freely available > > community support. > > I always find that a little tricky. > > For me (whether right or wrong) I like to choose how

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread London School of Puppetry
Yes Robin- Great idea? Are you one of them? Anyone in North Yorks? Caroline On 29/01/07, Robin Menneer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok then, you have to earn a living. What about the retireds doing it on flexitime ? Some protection would have to be provided against the no-hopers, who might ju

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Toby Smithe
/me could do this kind of thing for teh venezuela fund :) On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 21:19 +, London School of Puppetry wrote: > I understand exactly what you are saying. But no-one would expect > anything for nothing. If my neighbour is paying for a local Windows > chap to do an hour's work sorti

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Toby Smithe
Very aptly described. On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 20:23 +, Alan Pope wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 19:33 +, Matthew East wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 17:45 +, Alan Pope wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:54 +0100, Matthew East wrote: > > > > On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London S

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread London School of Puppetry
I understand exactly what you are saying. But no-one would expect anything for nothing. If my neighbour is paying for a local Windows chap to do an hour's work sorting her crashing computer out then surely there has to be the equivalent Ubuntu person? Her chap goes from appointment to appointment

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread London School of Puppetry
In our area, there are at least two experts who travel around the area giving help, installing repairing etc on the spot face to face- there are many computer literate elderly who benefit enormously from this service (Windows only)- pay is roughly £30.00 per hour. These 'experts' come with no qua

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Robin Menneer
Ok then, you have to earn a living. What about the retireds doing it on flexitime ? Some protection would have to be provided against the no-hopers, who might just have to be told this, whether they liked it or not. On 1/29/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 19:33

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 19:33 +, Matthew East wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 17:45 +, Alan Pope wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:54 +0100, Matthew East wrote: > > > On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London School of Puppetry wrote: > > > > is there a list somewhere of Ubuntu experts > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Matthew East
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 17:45 +, Alan Pope wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:54 +0100, Matthew East wrote: > > On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London School of Puppetry wrote: > > > is there a list somewhere of Ubuntu experts > > > > There isn't such a list for the UK. However, developing one

Re: [ubuntu-uk] getting help - UK List

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:54 +0100, Matthew East wrote: > On Mon, January 29, 2007 1:10 am, London School of Puppetry wrote: > > is there a list somewhere of Ubuntu experts > > There isn't such a list for the UK. However, developing one would be a > very worthwhile task for this team to carry out -