The Script from Hell is hell to implement, but those who implement it will be ready
for all other scripts.
It has:
- 7 characters, forcing it into three bytes.
- Script joining. You try to script join 7 characters.
- Furigana. With 7 characters, you're gonna NEED furigana!! (Yes, s
Thomas Chan wrote:
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Richard Cook wrote:
>
> > On a related note, I have 9000 word/char frequencies from Hanyu Pinlu
> > Cidian (a mainland text; I typed the entries in back in the early 90's,
> > and this is the freq data currently used in Wenlin). I'd be happy to
> > give
11-digit replied:
> 1) "Drunk".
I assume you mean yopparai. (U+9154)
Well, no, that is, again, the wine radical (U+9149), with 4
residual strokes.
The 4 residual strokes constitute a component that itself is a
character, U+5346. And the radical for *that* is 'ten', U+5341,
not 'nine'.
>
> 2)
Thomas Chan wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Richard Cook wrote:
>
> > On a related note, I have 9000 word/char frequencies from Hanyu Pinlu
> > Cidian (a mainland text; I typed the entries in back in the early 90's,
> > and this is the freq data currently used in Wenlin). I'd be happy to
> > give t
1) "Drunk".
2) What's that one with "sun" enclosed by "nine"?
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Riddle of the week:
What song is 35971040100?
That is not a catalog number.
Hint: the chorus is 3597104042
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Mike Ayers asked:
> > From: Edward Cherlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> > The 'tsu' sign in reduced form is traditionally used in Japanese for
> > consonant doubling (chyotto is written chi yo tsu to), but
> > has been adapted
> > for glottal stops at the end of words.
>
> Odd. I'v
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Richard Cook wrote:
> On a related note, I have 9000 word/char frequencies from Hanyu Pinlu
> Cidian (a mainland text; I typed the entries in back in the early 90's,
> and this is the freq data currently used in Wenlin). I'd be happy to
> give the Consortium access to this dat
> Odd. I've always considered Japanese "double consonants" to be
> glottal stops. Could anyone please explain the difference?
They are glottal stops. But Japanese writing doesn't have a (standard)
means of expressing a glottally stopped vowel pair. It only can express
consonants. On
> From: Edward Cherlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> The 'tsu' sign in reduced form is traditionally used in Japanese for
> consonant doubling (chyotto is written chi yo tsu to), but
> has been adapted
> for glottal stops at the end of words.
Odd. I've always considered Japanese "do
At 14:20 7/9/2001 +0100, Michael Everson wrote:
>Maybe I'm still in the stone age, but I'm using Fontographer.
Yup, that's the stone age. Fontographer hasn't been updated for years and
is not going to be.
See http://www.fontlab.com
John Hudson
Tiro Typeworks www.tiro.com
Vancouver,
At 11:42 AM -0700 7/9/01, Richard Cook wrote:
>
>Can anyone here speak of whether Apple will be licensing it?
It's possible, but I can't guarantee it at this point.
>Funny that Microsoft has it before Unicode, no? They have deeper
>pockets, and that matters?
Mostly it's a matter of the fact tha
Joe and John pondered:
> It's time to bring this system into the 21st Century: where's the
> >plastics radical, the fast-food radical, the unix radical?!
> >
>
> Aren't you forgetting the Maoist radical?
The Maoist radicals are being gradually supplanted by the free radicals,
which are good for
From: "Richard Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This must be the Beijing Zhong Yi Electronics font ... I heard that
> Microsoft was licensing it, but didn't imagine they'd release it so soon
...
The font vendor is listed as BDFX, and the copyright is for the Founder
Corporation. Further respondant sa
"Becker, Joseph" wrote:
>
> > Unicode is going to stick with the KangXi radical system
>
> There Unicode goes again, flouting the will of the people ... while
> meanwhile in another thread an esteemed Unicode elder has proposed the death
> radical. It's time to bring this system into the 21st C
"Michael (michka) Kaplan" wrote:
>
> From: "John H. Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > >Has the UNIHAN.TXT file been updated to include radical-stroke data
> > >for Plane Two characters?
>
> > Yes. Ever since Unicode 3.1 was released. (We still don't have an
> > Extension B font, however.)
>
"John H. Jenkins" wrote:
>
> At 11:29 AM -0400 7/9/01, Thomas Chan wrote:
> >On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, James Kass wrote:
> >
> >> An ideal index for the casual or non-CJK user might be quite
> >> different in approach. Perhaps the first component drawn in
> >
> >For the less than proficient user, I
At 10:53 AM -0700 7/9/01, Becker, Joseph wrote:
> > Unicode is going to stick with the KangXi radical system
>
>There Unicode goes again, flouting the will of the people ... while
>meanwhile in another thread an esteemed Unicode elder has proposed the death
>radical. It's time to bring this syst
> Unicode is going to stick with the KangXi radical system
There Unicode goes again, flouting the will of the people ... while
meanwhile in another thread an esteemed Unicode elder has proposed the death
radical. It's time to bring this system into the 21st Century: where's the
plastics radical
From: "John H. Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Has the UNIHAN.TXT file been updated to include radical-stroke data
> >for Plane Two characters?
> Yes. Ever since Unicode 3.1 was released. (We still don't have an
> Extension B font, however.)
There is one in Office XP's CHS and CHP language pa
* Tom Emerson
|
| Not a fair question. Obviously someone who has never counted strokes
| before is going to guess four, until you explain to them the rules,
| which are quite logical.
Where can these rules be found?
--Lars M.
http://www.cs.ruu.nl/~otfried/Skipcode/index.html
--
Tom Emerson Basis Technology Corp.
Sr. Sinostringologist http://www.basistech.com
"Beware the lollipop of mediocrity: lick it once and you suck forever"
At 9:29 AM -0700 7/9/01, James Kass wrote:
>John H. Jenkins wrote:
>
>> The main problem is
>> that the only set of data we have right now that covers everything is
>> the radical-stroke data. The next problem is my finding the time to
>> produce PDFs of the alternate indices.
>>
>
>Has the U
> While fully recognizing the importance of Middle Earth to
> some people it is
> difficult for me to get past the fact that there Middle Earth has no
> national representative to WG2? :-) And of course anything that is
> difficult for me will likely be difficult for others.
How many Ashurians
John H. Jenkins wrote:
> The main problem is
> that the only set of data we have right now that covers everything is
> the radical-stroke data. The next problem is my finding the time to
> produce PDFs of the alternate indices.
>
Has the UNIHAN.TXT file been updated to include radical-stro
At 11:29 AM -0400 7/9/01, Thomas Chan wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, James Kass wrote:
>
>> An ideal index for the casual or non-CJK user might be quite
>> different in approach. Perhaps the first component drawn in
>
>For the less than proficient user, I think it would be beneficial to have
>a me
On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, James Kass wrote:
> An ideal index for the casual or non-CJK user might be quite
> different in approach. Perhaps the first component drawn in
For the less than proficient user, I think it would be beneficial to have
a means to restrict the pool of characters that they are
Title: Re: What should be radicals
I take it you mean chiht/qiè? That comes under the 'knife' radical.
'sword' isn't a radical, it comes under the 'side' variant of the radical
'knife'.
I don't know about Kanji, but in Cantonese characters NINE doesn't ever
feature as a radical; certainl
At 9:42 AM -0400 7/9/01, Tom Emerson wrote:
>Not a fair question. Obviously someone who has never counted strokes
>before is going to guess four, until you explain to them the rules,
>which are quite logical. So you propose that someone has to memorize
>200+ radicals in addition to counting stroke
At 9:21 AM -0400 7/9/01, Tom Emerson wrote:
>=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJEYkcyRJJCYkaiRlJCYkOBsoQg==?= writes:
>> Skip is copyrighted.
>
>Yes it is, but Jack has allowed Jim Breen to include SKIP codes in
>kanjidic, so I would think it would be realistic to ask him to allow
>the method to be used.
>
Ja
James Kass wrote:
> Rajesh Chandrakar wrote about a display problem.
>
> I wrote:
>
> > This could be a font problem, an encoding problem on the
> > page in question, or a problem with the operating system
> > support.
> >
> > Here is the line in question reproduced in Unicode (UTF-8):
> >
> > वे
At 7:03 AM -0400 7/9/01, Tom Emerson wrote:
>If the goal is to generate an index for the non-CJK user then perhaps
>something similar to Jack Halpern's SKIP index used in his kanji
>dictionaries would be worth considering. For those not familiar with
>it, the basic idea is that characters are clas
At 6:05 PM -0700 7/8/01, Richard Cook wrote:
>"John H. Jenkins" wrote:
>>
>> It is on occasion something of an art figuring out the correct
>> radical/stroke position for a character in this kind of an index, sad
>> to say.
>
>I'd say, when 2 radicals are possible, put it under both. When 3, we
Title: Re: What should be radicals
At 11:02 PM -0700 7/8/01,
§§Û§§¶§Í§Â§¶§½ wrote:
Shouldn't HAN DIGIT NINE be a radical?
I've seen it in a few places in kanji.
Also, what is the radical of "cut"?
"Sword"?
I remember the "cut" chatacter
by thinking that 7 swords do a lot of cutting.
Unico
=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJEYkcyRJJCYkaiRlJCYkOBsoQg==?= writes:
> >So you replace radicals with something else. It's the same problem:
> >someone not familiar with hanzi are no better served with that method
> >than sticking to Kangxi or some other, er, radical, scheme.
>
> Quick how many strokes in m
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Riddle of the week:
What song is 35971040100?
That is not a catalog number.
Hint: the chorus is 3597104042
>
>> How about a non-counting (mostly), "take-it-apart" method?
>
>So you replace radicals with something else. It's the same
=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJEYkcyRJJCYkaiRlJCYkOBsoQg==?= writes:
> Skip is copyrighted.
Yes it is, but Jack has allowed Jim Breen to include SKIP codes in
kanjidic, so I would think it would be realistic to ask him to allow
the method to be used.
> How about a non-counting (mostly), "take-it-apart" me
For the last while I've been having difficulty getting my fonts to
work properly with the right character sets on PCs. Maybe I'm still
in the stone age, but I'm using Fontographer. I have Virtual PC's
Windows 2000 to test my fonts on. I'm not sure which one of you to
ask, but I'd like some pri
Skip is copyrighted.
How about a non-counting (mostly), "take-it-apart" method?
So I would look up "oku" (English??) under person-sound-heart.
I would prefer a method that involved as little counting as possible.
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Riddle of the week:
James Kass writes:
[snip]
> An ideal index for the casual or non-CJK user might be quite
> different in approach. Perhaps the first component drawn in
> any character would be a good basis for indexing rather than
> the significant radical. But, as you've pointed out, not all
> components are
I have heard that sake is, technically, a beer.
They *do* make sake over there, don't they?
They make sake over here.
I used to get 1.5 liters for $15 or so.
But I had to readjust the refrigerator to fit the bottle in. Sa
I live in the USA.
I love sake.
Weak beer tastes like water. Strong
Vibha R asked:
> Is there any editor for unix or windows that saves the
> file in utf-8 or utf-16 format?
I have listed some at:
http://www.hclrss.demon.co.uk/unicode/utilities_editors.html
I know of a few others that I have not yet had time to add.
Alan Wood
Documentation Writer / Web Mast
At 13:48 -0700 2001-07-08, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote:
> >>Perhaps a rule needs to be imposed about the amount of sake that should be
> >>consumed before submitting a character proposal?
> >
>> I've never had any trouble with beer.
>
>Ah, but that would indicate clear cultural bias, woul
Hi
Is there any editor for unix or windows that saves the file in utf-8 or
utf-16 format?
We need a test case unicode sample file.It would be helpful if someone
sends a sample file as attachment.
Thanx
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