Re: Letterforms based on p

At 18:13 -0700 2003-06-06, Asmus Freytag wrote: I was hoping to find someone who had additional evidence for this character. I might but I am travelling. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

Re: Letterforms based on p

At 01:34 AM 6/7/03 +0200, Philippe Verdy wrote: - Original Message - From: "Asmus Freytag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Can anyone shed further light on this character? I assume this is a lower > case form, does anyone care to confirm that? Isn't your "per" symbol it similar to the form variant of

Letterforms based on p

I keep coming across a letterlike symbol based on the letter p. In going through my collections, I found it listed in a table of symbols in an excerpt from the US Government Printing office style manual from 1984. That symbol is named 'per' and looks like To me, the symbol looks like something

Re: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

 For the Latin Gamma, you're right, I think I would use the following pair, which I would map on an existing keyboard as AltGr+G or AltGr+Shift+G:LAYOUT  ;an extra '@' at the end is a dead key//SC    VK_ Cap 0   1   2   6   7//--                   

Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

We never put the 2.0 Standard online. We do, of course, keep copies in our office, but your best bet is to borrow one from a collegue. Mark __ http://www.macchiato.com ► “Eppur si muove” ◄ - Original Message - From: "Barry Caplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

UNESCO standard keyboards? (Re: Tamazight/berber language : ....)

In the context of Tamazight input Philippe Verdy wrote: [ . . . ] > > There are probably some existing standard for keyboard mappings, promoted by > UNESCO and published in a ISO standard. If there were such a thing (for Tamazight or any other African language) I'd be very interested to know abo

RE: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

My comments below. Regards Cathy -Original Message- From: Philippe Verdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, thanks for this cool tool! Now I can edit international text for most European languages directly from my extended custom French keyboard (including the missing OE and AE ligatures th

Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

Thanks Mark, but I had done all that online searching before I posted to the list. Is the book (which I no longer have a copy of) the only place where the details for conformance for 2.x are archived? If so, is that a good idea? Barry At 11:09 AM 6/5/2003 -0700, Mark Davis wrote: >If you sta

Re: Classification of Alphabetic characters (was: Hiragana/Katakanasound marks)

> "Philippe" == Philippe Verdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Philippe> Another interesting case is the usage of the apostrophe in Philippe> (modern) Breton, where the official alphabet considers the Philippe> sequence as a single letter, despite it's written with Philippe> 3 Unicode characters,

RE: Classification of U+30FC KATAKANA-HIRAGANA PROLONGED SOUND MARK

Mark, Thanks again for your response. I understand what you say about word formation, and combining marks, and that the Alphabetic classification should not be limited to "L"s. But 30FC is of General Category "Lm" (which should be included) and, since version 3.1, is classified explicitly as Al

Re: UNESCO standard keyboards? (Re: Tamazight/berber language : ....)

fontconfig also has lists of characters needed for each language, which it uses to help decide which font to provide: http://keithp.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb/fontconfig/fc-lang/ Noah On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 8:14:48 -0700, Doug Ewell wrote: > > If would be interesting to add some informative appendixes

Re: UNESCO standard keyboards? (Re: Tamazight/berber language : ....)

From: "Philippe Verdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If would be interesting to add some informative appendixes to Unicode > and later make them normative, to clearly state the subset of > characters that MUST be supported for each written language, and a > list of legacy equivalents that should be interp

Re: Classification of Alphabetic characters (was: Hiragana/Katakana sound marks)

From: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is not an oversight. As I said, many characters are not > Alphabetic and are still part of words. Examples include that > character and many others. As a simple case, "can't" is a word in > English, although the apostrophe is not alphabetic. There are m

Re: Address of ISO 3166 mailing list

Ar 17:04 -0400 2003/06/04, scríobh Tex Texin: >Marion, It is very easy to start your own list... Have done, may do so again, as needs be. > >You can create lists for 3166... Thanks, but no, thanks, Tex, although I do think such a service would be good, to provide the same open discussion forum/b

Re: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Wow, thanks for this cool tool! Now I can edit international text for most European languages directly from my extended custom French keyboard (including the missing OE and AE ligatures that I wanted since long on the French keyboard)... (I changed the degree sign to a ring diacritic dead key, a

Re: tamazight/berber language

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this time I'm looking for a generic way to write tamazight in severall document (mail, office documents, web forum). I have a good > information : I need to create a standard keyboard layout. In that case I'd recommend you to use Keyman: http://www.tavultesoft.com/key

Re: UNESCO standard keyboards? (Re: Tamazight/berber language : ....)

Philippe Verdy wrote on 06/06/2003 03:27:04 AM: > Thanks for this information. However I don't think I stated that > UNESCO was a standard body I didn't interpret your statement that way, but some might have interpreted *Don's* statement as implying SIL and UNESCO were developing ICT standards f

Re: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Miikka-Markus Alhonen wrote on 06/06/2003 01:31:55 AM: > > (Epsilon? Where'd that come from?) > Epsilon is the second character in the alphabet chart corresponding to > Arabic 'ayn (U+0639, a voiced pharyngeal fricative). Right. I missed that at first. They character that appears here is U+025B

Re: Classification of U+30FC KATAKANA-HIRAGANA PROLONGED SOUND MARK

Ah, I see why you didn't find the Alphabetic property. It was added in Unicode 3.1.0 (March 2001), precisely to capture characters that are not L yet are still alphabetic. If you look at the derivation in C:\DATA\UCD\3.1.0-Update\DerivedCoreProperties-3.1.0.txt, you will see: # Derived Property: A

tamazight/berber language

Chris Jacobs wrote: > Depends on how much text you need. > If it is just a few words then getting an unipad from > http://www.unipad.org/ would be enough. > > You can copy and paste the chars from it. > > If this is not enought than have a look at > http://www.tavultesoft.com/keyman/

RE: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Philippe Verdy wrote: > However the interesting part of your question for discussion > in this list is: > - Which Unicode character should be used to encode the > spacing ring? (may conflict with the degree sign, or a > upscript small letter O) > - Should you use a Greek Gamma or a Latin Gamma,

RE: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Chris Jacobs wrote: > Depends on how much text you need. > If it is just a few words then getting an unipad from > http://www.unipad.org/ would be enough. > > You can copy and paste the chars from it. > > If this is not enought than have a look at > http://www.tavultesoft.com/keyman/ BTW, Unipad

RE: Classification of U+30FC KATAKANA-HIRAGANA PROLONGED SOUND MARK

Thanks to all who responded. The insight you provided is invaluable. And I appreciate your patience with a UNICODE beginner. Mark's reference to UCD.html, and by inference to DerivedCoreProperties.txt, seems difinitive. However, these are part of the 4.0 spec. The suspect implementation of i

Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

If you start on http://www.unicode.org/ and click on Start Here, you'll get to a page about the Unicode Standard. In the left-hand column, clicking on Versions of the Unicode Standard will get you to http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/. In the left-hand column you will see the different ver

RE : Tamazight/berber language Keybord layout

Hello again, Many thanks all for your help, I apologize you for disturbing the list why my questions. Merci, Azzedine, -Message d'origine- De : Otto Stolz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoye : jeudi 5 juin 2003 18:56 A : Azzedine Ait Khelifa Cc :

conformance for unicode 2.x?

I was trying to find the place on unicode.org where conformance for 2.x is defined. I think one of the 2.1.x updates referred back to earlier conformance specs, but I couldn't find them. Any pointers? Thanks! Barry

Re: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Azzedine Ait Khelifa wrote: how i can send mail, write word document using "Arial Unicode MS" font ? Cf. . After having read, tested, and understood (at large) these pages, try and ask more specific questions on the Unicode list. Good luck, Otto Stolz

Re: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Depends on how much text you need. If it is just a few words then getting an unipad from http://www.unipad.org/ would be enough. You can copy and paste the chars from it. If this is not enought than have a look at http://www.tavultesoft.com/keyman/ - Original Message - From: Azzedine Ai

Re: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

From: "Azzedine Ait Khelifa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents > Hello all, > > I need help about tamazight(berber) language. > > All letters of tamazght alphabet are

Re: UNESCO standard keyboards? (Re: Tamazight/berber language : ....)

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don Osborn wrote on 06/05/2003 07:34:29 PM: > > > There are probably some existing standard for keyboard mappings, > promoted by > > > UNESCO and published in a ISO standard. > > > > If there were such a thing (for Tamazight or any other African > > language) I'd be > >

RE: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Title: Message Hello,   I’m guessing from your references to Word and “Arial Unicode” that you are asking how to do this on a Windows system.  Windows and Office do not ship with Tamazight input support by default, but we have recently released a free tool (the Microsoft Keyboard Layout

Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Title: Message Hello all,I need help about tamazight(berber) language.All letters of tamazght alphabet are into "arial Unicode" (see the tab below) My question is easy (and certanely a stupid question), how i can send mail, write word document using "Arial Unicode MS" font ? At this time, I

Re: Classification of U+30FC KATAKANA-HIRAGANA PROLONGED SOUND MARK

The UCD has a property explicitly called "Alphabetic" in the UCD. So that should be used when determining whether a character is, well, alphabetic. See http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UCD.html However, in the past many people have misused functions like isAlpha() for doing more complicated p

Re: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Lainaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > - Should you use a Greek Gamma or a Latin Gamma, and a Greek epsilon? > > (Epsilon? Where'd that come from?) That is U+0263 LATIN SMALL LETTER > GAMMA. Epsilon is the second character in the alphabet chart corresponding to Arabic 'ayn (U+0639, a voiced pharyngeal