Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-28 Thread Anthony West
Classifying the Mennonites as a whole is an interesting challenge. I have a friend whose father is Swiss and who grew up speaking German, at Goshen as well as in the Juras. A heritage like this, 400 years old, is an ethnicity, complete with unique garb, economic adaptations, language and home

RE: [UC] Dock Street and other eateries

2007-07-28 Thread Turner,Kathleen
From Ray: one fun thing to try is google map. go to google and type in '48th st and baltimore ave philadelphia', and when you see the map click on it to enlarge it, and once you're at the big map of 48th and baltimore click on 'find businesses' at the top. you'll then get a search box where you

[UC] The Trap: Selling Out To Stay Afloat In Winner Take-All America

2007-07-28 Thread Glenn
Dear list, Daniel Brook's book, The Trap: Selling Out To Stay Afloat In Winner Take-All America, is a must read for thinking citizens. I've read the first third and it is apparent that this is a very important work. Mr. Brook is offering a very thought provoking analysis of American society as

[UC] Are they going to rope of the bowl again?

2007-07-28 Thread B Andersen
After getting such a great start, are they going to rope off the bowl again and reseed to finish letting the grass grow?

Re: [UC] Dock Street Before party [was: Break My Routine and Smack Me Upside the Head]

2007-07-28 Thread Wilma de Soto
Perhaps, you¹re right about that. On 7/27/07 9:07 PM, Turner,Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's nothing wrong with kids being kids. And if you had said specifically that you didn't see a reason for children to be in an establishment that PRIMARILY served alcohol, I wouldn't have

[UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list

2007-07-28 Thread B Andersen
I'm tired of the bad traffic here on the listserve, and I know I'm not the only one. I propose we meet in person to discuss one (or more) of five options: *Develop rules and guidelines (and allow moderation) *Migrate to psfni *start an alternate group *Move to a BB like Phillyblog *leave things

[UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing List

2007-07-28 Thread Kyle Cassidy
I was hoping to have a few weeks to run tests, but it seems things have boiled over here. The UnivCity listserve has, for me, become less than useless over the past six months. I find it valuable for neighbors to be able to share stories of what's going on in the hood, to plan meetups, and to

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-28 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Ross Bender wrote: Thanks, Tony, but I just need to point out that Mennonites are no longer a single ethnic group. Historically, we have been Swiss-German, Dutch, Frisian and Prussian -- The Mennonites being showcased at the Arthur Ross Gallery are some of the latter who were invited to the

Re: [UC] Dock Street and other eateries

2007-07-28 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
From Ray: one fun thing to try is google map. go to google and type in '48th st and baltimore ave philadelphia', and when you see the map click on it to enlarge it, and once you're at the big map of 48th and baltimore click on 'find businesses' at the top. you'll then get a search box where

Re: [UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing List

2007-07-28 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 7/28/2007 11:04:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm going to unsubscribe from univcity and hope to see some of you on the other side where I hope to be able to provide a less antagonistic atmosphere for neighborhood communication. In her

Re: [UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing List

2007-07-28 Thread Glenn
I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing ListKyle, You and Anderson are so right. These people are really getting to me too. Let's ditch 'em. I'm so excited! See you fellas on the new list. Glenn - Original Message - From: Kyle Cassidy To: UnivCity listserv

RE: [UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing List

2007-07-28 Thread Kyle Cassidy
see ya there. -Original Message- From: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 7/28/2007 11:41 AM To: Kyle Cassidy; UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing List I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing ListKyle, You

Re: [UC] Are they going to rope of the bowl again?

2007-07-28 Thread Brian Siano
B Andersen wrote: After getting such a great start, are they going to rope off the bowl again and reseed to finish letting the grass grow? Lord, NO. The grass was a one-time only thing for the Orchestra. Even then, it was a huge effort, requiring seeding, fertilizing, some tilling, watering

Re: [UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing List

2007-07-28 Thread MLamond
Uh, Al, I'm not sure your offlist threats to sue folks with whom you didn't agree on list, could be called deliberation to help participants recognize the moral merit in their opponents' claims. I won't miss that. - Melani Lamond In a message dated 7/28/07 11:38:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list

2007-07-28 Thread Wilma de Soto
Would I be considered to be part of the ³bad traffic?² If so, then why? Perhaps a good place to start would be telling those with whom you disagree with the expression of their views and why. You could list all the posters who upset you and let them know and why. We should be adult enough to

Re: [UC] I want my Quest/UCD/FOCP confusion?

2007-07-28 Thread Glenn
I think you are misdirecting your anger--I believe it should be directed at UCD, not FOCP (in fact the way I heard it, some FOCP were upset at the decision to rope off the bowl, as I was) Momo. You raise a very important topic to consider. Let me try to respond. I had the misfortune of

[UC] Melani's quote of the day

2007-07-28 Thread Glenn
On today's front page of the Inq., there is one of thos stories of a Penn real estate love in. You've read this crap many times, so I won't bore you with details. It was a newsmercial about Penn and campus apartment with 50 million dollar kisses, etc, etc. But then I spotted the news quote

Re: [UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing List

2007-07-28 Thread Glenn
RE: [UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing ListI've started working on my suggestions for the black list. Your good good friend, Glenn - Original Message - From: Kyle Cassidy To: Glenn ; UnivCity listserv Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:02 PM Subject:

Re: [UC] Dock Street and other eateries

2007-07-28 Thread Andy Diller
I guess you didn't read about the daytime muggings from the local undesirables. Seems like Googling is a lot safer than actually walking around west philly these days. - Kathleen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or -- here's an interesting thought! -- you could turn off your computer,

Re: [UC] Melani's quote of the day

2007-07-28 Thread Isabel Lugo
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that it depends on how you define University City and population. For example, a very small definition of UC that's bounded by, say, 30th, 40th, Market, and Spruce would certainly see population rising because of all the new construction taking place in that

Re: [UC] Melani's quote of the day

2007-07-28 Thread Glenn
What happens is that people who are forced to live in a neighborhood because it's cheap are packed in like sardines get forced out by the rising rents, and the people moving in aren't so packed in. Isabel, I've seen this packing too. It's one of the realities for the poor. Sometimes in

RE: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list

2007-07-28 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Bruce: I find it particularly ironic that you are pointing out bad traffic on the listserv! There is no reason to start other list to serve the same people, which is why many of us in the past have not diluted the subscriber base and have yet another Listserv to subscribe to. Three

RE: [UC] I've Created a New (Moderated) University City Mailing List

2007-07-28 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Kyle: While Ross created the Culture listserv, he did not unsubscribe from the UC-List. There are multiple listservs which have popped up over the last couple of years to allow people to privately (in many cases) discuss what is happening on the UC-Listserv! I think your reasons for

Re: [UC] Diddy's Amish Roots

2007-07-28 Thread Anthony West
I don't agree with you, Ray. Arthur Ross Gallery, which you represent, is a corporate entity. By choosing to place this vision before the community, you made it Penn's vision, on some level. On some level, Penn is obligated to present a coherent explanation of why your vision (which does seem

Re: [UC] Melani's quote of the day

2007-07-28 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 7/28/07 2:00:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The population of University City has never been nearly as high as it is now, said Melani Lamond, an associate broker...   Anybody who's ever spoken with a reporter knows that all too often, the resulting quote is incorrect,

[UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say Wharton ?

2007-07-28 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 7/28/2007 2:00:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On today's front page of the Inq., there is one of thos stories of a Penn real estate love in. You've read this crap many times, so I won't bore you with details. It was a newsmercial about Penn and

Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list

2007-07-28 Thread Wilma de Soto
I think what bothers me most is the very high-handedness of it all. It implies that some residents and/or subscribers should not be borne because their statements or opinions upset us, so let us better folk adjourn to another forum where we can more readily censor them. People are people and the

Re: [UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say Wharton ?

2007-07-28 Thread Amara Rockar
Just gonna wonk out here a little. Don't mind me. The Inky seems to have printed the high end of the one bedroom range at Domus for effect and ended up distorting everything. (Quick! Someone hit the staff writer with a rolled-up Inky! Bad reporter! Bad!) Anyway, a one bedroom in the luxurious

Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list

2007-07-28 Thread David Toccafondi
I'm surprised this is such a big deal. And I'm not sure what constitutes bad traffic other than outright spam. I've been reading this listserv for at least the past 6 years, and i've never seen it as a problem. I set up a separate email account for the lists I subscribe to so that my main

Re: [UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say ...

2007-07-28 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 7/28/2007 9:16:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Inky seems to have printed the high end of the one bedroom range at Domus for effect and ended up distorting everything. (Quick! Someone hit the staff writer with a rolled-up Inky! Bad reporter! Bad!)

Re: [UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say Wharton ?

2007-07-28 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Amara Rockar wrote: Just gonna wonk out here a little. Don't mind me. The Inky seems to have printed the high end of the one bedroom range at Domus for effect and ended up distorting everything. (Quick! Someone hit the staff writer with a rolled-up Inky! Bad reporter! Bad!) Anyway, a one

Re: [UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say ...

2007-07-28 Thread Isabel Lugo
I read that at their web site (domuspa.com) and caught the most coveted phrase. Now, if they actually get the rents they're asking, they will be the most coveted apartments, at least if you believe the principle that you can measure how much people covet things by how much they're willing to pay

Re: [UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say Wharton ?

2007-07-28 Thread Isabel Lugo
$200 a month isn't negligible, and that sentence to me feels like it's deliberately constructed to hide somehing. And it seems incredibly disingenuous to fold the meal plan into the comparison, unless Stratum is *also* going to be feeding people. Isabel On 7/28/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL

Re: [UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say Wharton ?

2007-07-28 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Isabel Lugo wrote: $200 a month isn't negligible, and that sentence to me feels like it's deliberately constructed to hide somehing. And it seems incredibly disingenuous to fold the meal plan into the comparison, unless Stratum is *also* going to be feeding people. from the article, it

Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list

2007-07-28 Thread Wilma de Soto
Hear, hear! If the name of this new forum is as Al Krigman wrote, that says it all. This is the by-product mentality of people who are used to arranging their communities as they see fit, (i.e. suburban-type developments with all the amenities in place.) NOW, all we have to do is find the ³right

Re: [UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say ...

2007-07-28 Thread David Toccafondi
Wow. The whole impetus for my buying a house 7 years ago was that Chestnut Hall raised my rent to a ridiculous $600/month for my efficiency apartment, and I figured I might as well own something if I was going to be paying that much. I'm trying to imagine the house I could buy if I could afford

Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list

2007-07-28 Thread emko
Yeah to everything you said. It's beyond me why people can't just ignore or delete what they're not interested in. Like you, i get list emails sent to a dedicated, threaded mailbox. I skim about 1/10th of the posts, read for real about 1/4 of the ones I skim, and automatically delete

Re: [UC] Penn's rather overpriced view of apartments... did someone here say Wharton ?

2007-07-28 Thread Anthony West
Different eyes read differently. Stratum appears to be promising some kind of new, top-end rental unit that's been tested on comparable student markets elsewhere.. If that's so, it can't be modeled on the Quad; it would have to be something the Quad isn't. Maybe the top end of the student