[UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-03 Thread Krfapt
Today's UCReview ran an informative item about the University City Community Stakeholders, spearheaded by Sharif Ali & Tony West. As everybody knows, I agree with their objections to the lack of transparency in the way UCD operates, especially with respect to the proposal to implement a NID i

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-03 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today's UCReview ran an informative item about the University City Community Stakeholders, spearheaded by Sharif Ali & Tony West. link: http://tinyurl.com/293ecp UC community stakeholders plan to host public forums on UCD By Nicole Contosta UC Review The Universi

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-05 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 10/4/2007 8:41:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it is a little presumptuous of Sharif Ali to appoint himself and his friends the Stakeholders. Seems to me that when folks who had spent some 15 years drafting, researching, and presenting t

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-05 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: link: http://tinyurl.com/293ecp UC community stakeholders plan to host public forums on UCD By Nicole Contosta UC Review The University City Community Stakeholders will be distributing petitions at this week's first Thursday meeting, October 6 at the Walnut West B

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-05 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/4/2007 8:41:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it is a little presumptuous of Sharif Ali to appoint himself and his friends the Stakeholders. Seems to me that when folks who had spent some 15 years drafting

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-05 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 10/5/07 5:38:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ...the other day al posted something about individual > responsibilities vs group participation. the idea that one > need not join a group in order to be considered an equal > urban dweller. > > yes, I think this is where people g

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-05 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Melani Lamond wrote: Doesn't this also mean that we also have to remember that non-joiners are not the superior group of citizens either; they don't have the greater right to berate joiners and the groups they join? like I said, we're all stakeholders. which means non-joiners are not a super

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-06 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 10/5/2007 7:30:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesn't this also mean that we also have to remember that non-joiners are not the superior group of citizens either; they don't have the greater right to berate joiners and the groups they join? T

FW: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-06 Thread Wilma de Soto
tem about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview All true, as far as it goes.. A good social worker or a good politician doesn't define a stakeholder by an organization. Some non-organized citizens and neighbors are dynamic social beings in their own way. However, governments by defini

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-06 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The crux of the problem I have with many organizations is that they have an effect disproportionate to their actual numbers in the community they purport to serve. When their involvement goes beyond things that affect only themselves, they tend to assume the mantle o

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-06 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Glenn wrote: I stopped going to FOCP presentations. However, I'm looking forward to seeing this petition circulate at their next one. Whether or not folks want to stay for an FOCP presentation, I hope they come to sign their petition. Perhaps the Stakeholders could get other civic associations

Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-06 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 10/6/07 12:56:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > btw, I think it's intriguing that you (and others) deliver > the sermons you do. in one ear we're told how this is such a > wonderful neighborhood (so capable and functional that we're > able to "unanimously" install dock street a

Fwd: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-06 Thread MLamond
Forwarded for Tony: ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --- Begin Message --- /Melani, Can you please post this for me as I am having technical difficulties? List owner Jeff hasn't answered my message yet and the problem persists. -- Tony /This morn

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2007-10-06 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
ect: Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview All true, as far as it goes.. A good social worker or a good politician doesn't define a stakeholder by an organization. Some non-organized citizens and neighbors are dynamic social beings in their own way. H

Re: Fwd: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-07 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
** From: Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /This morning, long before Melani went off to Bark in the Park, thousands of volunteers walked across that same ground. They were part of a 3-Day Walk from New York to Washington to raise funds to fight breast canc

Re: Fwd: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview

2007-10-09 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Anthony West wrote: One more time: UCD doesn't "enforce volunteerism" and taxes cannot enforce volunteerism. Taxes are the logical opposite of volunteerism. You have lost the train of your thought. of course taxes are the logical opposite of volunteerism. that is the point. ucd wants to trans

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2007-10-08 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Original Message Subject: Re: Fwd: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:20:21 -0400 From: Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /Ray, I'll try

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2007-10-06 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 10/6/07 11:25:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The crux of the problem I have with many organizations is that they have > an  > > effect disproportionate to their actual numbers in the community they > purport > > to  serve. When their involvem

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2007-10-06 Thread lomb21
sterile voice that is not one that I associate with UC. Guy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:12 am Subject: Community Stakeholders [was: Re: [UC] Interesting item about UC Community Stakeholders in today's UCReview In a messa