UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
hahaha
signed,
Raydian
enhanced vibrancy. first class design.
Frank Carroll wrote:
That's a good one!
Frankus
Sleek. Edgy.* Infinitely flexible.
*Soon-to-be-ivy-covered bells.
[*ivy has a nice ring (ouch), but I think they're actually
using red roses and
David Toccafondi wrote:
I'm surprised this is such a big deal.
I'm suprised as well. kyle was happily posting on this list
all last week, as he's been doing ever since he started
posting here, and he posted several times on friday the 27th
(even while running his new list in test mode,)
]
To: Undisclosed.Recipients :
Cc: univcity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Spoofed by a UC Listserv member who doesn't play fair with the
facts [was: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list]
It is exactly the behavior of Al and others who spew filth which forces me
]
To: Undisclosed.Recipients :
Cc: univcity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Spoofed by a UC Listserv member who doesn't play fair with the
facts [was: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list]
It is exactly the behavior of Al and others who spew filth which forces me
to
only pay
]
To: Undisclosed.Recipients :
Cc: univcity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Spoofed by a UC Listserv member who doesn't play fair with the
facts [was: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list]
It is exactly the behavior of Al and others who spew filth which forces me
to
only pay
]
To: Undisclosed.Recipients :
Cc: univcity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Spoofed by a UC Listserv member who doesn't play fair with the
facts [was: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list]
It is exactly the behavior of Al and others who spew filth which forces me
to
only pay
I'm with you guys (and Maggie). Besides, meeting in person to discuss
this stuff defeats the purpose of the list entirely since the list
itself is a place to discuss things. It also immediately excludes
anyone who can't be at the meeting place at the meeting time. One of
the points of the
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
I'm surprised this is such a big deal. And I'm not sure what constitutes
bad traffic other than outright spam. I've been reading this listserv for at
least the past 6 years, and i've never seen it as a problem. I set up a
separate email
In a message dated 7/28/07 11:01:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hear, hear!
If the name of this new forum is as Al Krigman wrote, that says it all.
In a message dated 7/28/07 10:00:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Still here. Haven't joined the list at [EMAIL
It is exactly the behavior of Al and others who spew filth which forces me to
only pay attention to the posts about muggings and the occasional sale of
something somewhere in the hood. Aside from the .05% of real information on
this list, all is deleted.
It's been this way since I signed up,
; pfsni list
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
I'm surprised this is such a big deal. And I'm not sure what constitutes
bad traffic other than outright spam. I've been reading this listserv
Thank you for the clarification. However, a listserv under the sponsorship
of the Univ. of Penn designed to filter and moderate those of us who may be
in disagreement with shall we say, ³The Prevailing Westerly Winds², is
disturbing to me.
Especially so in a which neighborhood prides itself on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You've been had. The name of Kyle Cassidy's new listserv is NOT as Al
Krigman wrote. Kyle's listserv is:
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighborsAl is
spoofing, yet again. Many times, he's
PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 2:57 am
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
I'm with you guys (and Maggie). Besides, meeting in person to discuss this
stuff defeats the purpose of the list entirely since the list itself is a
place to discuss things
is getting translated
into having a blacklist -- a term
that's been thrown out by at least three different people so far.
-Original Message-
From: Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 2:57 am
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Great! A “community” listserv under the auspices of UCD sponsors and
their sympathizers in the neighborhood. No community input permitted
unless you take a pledge?
What’ll they think of next? POWER OVER THE PEOPLE!!!
Lord knows why you're believing Glenn Moyer, whose
Actually, UC-list is also, and every bit as much, under the auspices
of Penn, isn't it? Purple didn't just make itself.
-- Tony West
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Great! A “community” listserv under the auspices of UCD sponsors and
their sympathizers in the neighborhood. No community input permitted
try to consider Cassidy's childish motivations and his
partnership with the Penn masters.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: Dave Axler
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
-
From: Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 2:57 am
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
I'm with you guys (and Maggie). Besides, meeting in person to discuss this
stuff defeats the purpose of the list entirely since the list itself
partnership with the Penn masters.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: Dave Axler
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
As for a new list, I can see some arguments on both sides
-
From: Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UCityList univcity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Great! A “community” listserv under the auspices of UCD sponsors and
their sympathizers in the neighborhood
In a message dated 7/29/2007 3:35:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, UC-list is also, and every bit as much, under the auspices
of Penn, ...
Obviously, you've done no research, or you are caught-up in some of this
weekend's petty inconclusive
In a message dated 7/29/2007 1:33:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I know people who are sick of ... Al Krigman's mean-spirited rants
Would you care to cite one such mean-spritited rant. Just one will be
enough to show you're not talking through your goofy hat.
In a message dated 7/29/2007 4:01:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am starting to realize how much Penn real estate fears the discussion on
this listserv
Well, considering the role played by this listserv in the embarassment of UCD
and the death of the NID, this is
Craig,
I don't understand the point of anything you just wrote. Mine was a
technical observation from a non-technically savvy subscriber. What is
the ultimate host of this list we are now writing on, UC-list? Who
originally designed it and who owns it? Are or were Penn machines or
Penn
: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
Actually, UC-list is also, and every bit as much, under the auspices
of Penn, isn't it? Purple didn't just make itself.
-- Tony West
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Great! A community listserv under the auspices of UCD sponsors and
their sympathizers
He owned the machines and still does? He had no institutional
affiliation with Penn?
Who was he, who is he, whose idea was it, how does it work physically?
Tell us a story, Uncle Sharrieff.
-- Tony West
S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:
What?
FAQ:
THE PURPLE LIST IS TOTALLY SPONSORED BY JEFF
Dear Brian,
This has nothing to do with Glenn, rather from what I have read of the posts
I have seen on Kyle's list, the upenn sig in the URL and from reading past
postings on this listserv.
I read, The great thing about this software is that I can pre-ban Glenn
and the response of how that
Perhaps not.
Given the timing of the defection as it were, and the preceding discussion,
I would say the upenn sig is noteworthy.
On 7/29/07 3:33 PM, Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, UC-list is also, and every bit as much, under the auspices
of Penn, isn't it? Purple didn't
Jul 2007 2:57 am
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
I'm with you guys (and Maggie). Besides, meeting in person to discuss this
stuff defeats the purpose of the list entirely since the list itself is a
place to discuss things. It also immediately excludes anyone who can't
In a message dated 7/29/2007 5:27:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He owned the machines and still does? He had no institutional
affiliation with Penn?
Who was he, who is he, whose idea was it, how does it work physically?
Is this your idea of lamb skin draped
I don't get either of these, sorry. A lot of people in this neighborhood
process computer stuff through Penn, because a lot of people on this
list are hooked into Penn. I don't see how you can rule out any sort of
on-campus computer contacts in an off-campus community. For better or
for worse,
What are you talking about, Craig? If you don't know how the internet
works anymore than I do, just say so.
I don't mind a dose of purple invective, but I prefer it to be connected
to a topic. If you know how Purple works, please explain it.
-- Tony West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony West
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:25 PM
To: 'UnivCity listserv'
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
He owned the machines and still does? He had no institutional
affiliation with Penn?
Who was he, who is he, whose idea was it, how does it work
To: 'Anthony West'; 'UnivCity listserv'
Subject: RE: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
What?
FAQ:
THE PURPLE LIST IS TOTALLY SPONSORED BY JEFF ABRAMSON,
A FORMER RESIDENT OF SPRUCE HILL, ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
FYI
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Well, I understand it if you don't.
Of course there are scads of people affiliated with Penn who are a part of
this neighborhood. Penn and its subsidiaries are ubiquitous. Believe it or
not, I don't feel that's a problem. I feel there are plenty of reasons for
on-campus computer contacts
Maybe you are confused with the PFSNI list, which is run from a UPENN
server.
-andy
Anthony West wrote:
Actually, UC-list is also, and every bit as much, under the auspices
of Penn, isn't it? Purple didn't just make itself.
-- Tony West
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Great! A “community” listserv
Well, dag, Uncle Sharrieff, this presents an entirely different view of
purple. Are these the pictures of the actual Top 10 Posters on
UC-list? If so, we need to get Ross' monthly listings back on line ASAP.
As for your story, though, I vaguely remember SHCA played a role in
setting up
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Dear Brian,
This has nothing to do with Glenn, rather from what I have read of the posts
I have seen on Kyle's list, the upenn sig in the URL and from reading past
postings on this listserv.
I read, The great thing about this software is that I can pre-ban Glenn
and the
S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:
Yeah...I have told the story too many times.
Check the archives.
But no institutional affiliation.
But this is my favorite link:
http://www.purple.com/money/donate.html
I am surprised you have never read the purple pages?
S
If I may Actually, there is
Here's mine.
When I was Co-Chair of the SHCA membership Committee, the list was
inaccurate.
Then Treasurer Nick Sanders and I worked on getting members up-to-date-. We
worked mostly through e-mail. Nick had an idea if others on the SHCA Board
(i.e. committee chairpersons and Executive Board
Thank you, Wilma. So nice to hear a report from someone directly involved.
Let's summarize our knowledge at this hour. Mechanically, UC-list
reports to Villanova Univ. Its underlying purpose is that of Spruce Hill
Community Association.
We don't have the full picture yet. I think we would
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Dear Brian,
Here's the URL and I attach a jpeg of the message as well.
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/07.html
Ah, I see. That also explains why I hadn't seen it: it got posted before
I subscribed.
Still, pre-banning Glenn is probably a
On Jul 29, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
I read, The great thing about this software is that I can pre-ban
Glenn
and the response of how that would be heaven.
Please provide the post where Kyle wrote this.
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/05.html
and
Kirk Wattles wrote:
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/05.html
and Melani's reply, at:
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/07.html
I think moderating a list is not very easy, so we should wish Kyle well.
At least he's committed himself
Frank wrote:
Frankus
Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible.
hahaha
signed,
Raydian
enhanced vibrancy. first class design.
You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the
list named UnivCity. To
As you wish.
Later on, insert another name in that space if you wish, and then another
and another. Once a process is set in motion...
Would this also be good judgment?
On 7/29/07 8:03 PM, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Dear Brian,
Here's the URL and I attach
Actually, I wish them no ill will even though I disagree with the necessity
to form such a list for precisely the sentiment you expressed below:
But I wonder about the others who've joined him
there, who are still here as well. In their minds, the UC list is a
trash heap, and there's a
On Jul 29, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
Kirk Wattles wrote:
But I wonder about the others who've joined him there, who are still
here as well. In their minds, the UC list is a trash heap, and
there's a possibility of self-fulfilling prophecy insofar as they're
in a position to prove
Cannot help the timing.
I posted that writing by Kyle at your request. Otherwise, I would not have
done so.
Give the new listserv your best shot!
On 7/29/07 8:15 PM, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kirk Wattles wrote:
Wilma de Soto wrote:
As you wish.
Later on, insert another name in that space if you wish, and then another
and another. Once a process is set in motion...
Eventually the list would become _less interesting_. That's about the
worst that could happen.
You are receiving this because
It's right here:
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/05.html
Frankus
Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible.
On Jul 29, 2007, at 07:12 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
Wilma de Soto wrote:
Dear Brian,
This has nothing to do with Glenn, rather from what I have read of
the
Here is the Whois info for purple.com with the business and technical
contacts via Network Solutions. Sorry if this info is late or
redundant. I'm in Atlanta at the moment.
domain: PURPLE.COM
owner-name: purple
owner-address: 4411 Pine Street 19104
owner-address: 19104
That's a good one!
Frankus
Sleek. Edgy.* Infinitely flexible.
*Soon-to-be-ivy-covered bells.
On Jul 29, 2007, at 08:24 PM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
Frank wrote:
Frankus
Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible.
hahaha
signed,
Raydian
enhanced vibrancy. first class design.
I'm tired of the bad traffic here on the listserve, and I know I'm not the
only one. I propose we meet in person to discuss one (or more) of five
options:
*Develop rules and guidelines (and allow moderation)
*Migrate to psfni
*start an alternate group
*Move to a BB like Phillyblog
*leave things
Would I be considered to be part of the ³bad traffic?² If so, then why?
Perhaps a good place to start would be telling those with whom you disagree
with the expression of their views and why.
You could list all the posters who upset you and let them know and why. We
should be adult enough to
: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:57 AM
To: UnivCity listserv
Cc: pfsni list
Subject: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
I'm tired of the bad traffic here on the listserve, and I know I'm not
the only one. I propose we meet in person to discuss one (or more) of
five options:
*Develop rules and guidelines
To: S. Sharrieff Ali; B Andersen; UnivCity listserv
Cc: pfsni list
Subject: Re: [UC] Listserve Reform of the UC list
All:
None of these changes made on the UC list in the last year alter the fact that
I have received about 13,000 e-mails from this listserve over the last 15
months
I'm surprised this is such a big deal. And I'm not sure what constitutes
bad traffic other than outright spam. I've been reading this listserv for
at least the past 6 years, and i've never seen it as a problem. I set up a
separate email account for the lists I subscribe to so that my main
Hear, hear!
If the name of this new forum is as Al Krigman wrote, that says it all.
This is the by-product mentality of people who are used to arranging their
communities as they see fit, (i.e. suburban-type developments with all the
amenities in place.) NOW, all we have to do is find the ³right
Yeah to everything you said. It's beyond me why people can't just
ignore or delete what they're not interested in. Like you, i get list
emails sent to a dedicated, threaded mailbox. I skim about 1/10th of
the posts, read for real about 1/4 of the ones I skim, and
automatically delete
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