Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-10-01 Thread dkskl
For some strange reason (to me), i wasn't able to flash a working version of Moode to a micro sd. No such trouble with Volumio though, so i tried that instead. But more or less as expected, there were still dropouts. I guess it is now safe to conclude, the pCP software is not the root cause to

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-29 Thread dkskl
Ok. Just to rule out, that it is the RPI 4B board having a bug, i mounted the Digi Sig hat on my 3B+ nd.. Instant dropouts! Back to the 4B headphone and after two hours of perfect playback, the root cause likely SEEMS to stem from the hat or maybe, just maybe from the pCP software... I

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-28 Thread truscellino
Sorry yes my mistake :p CPU mostly idle, as expected... makes more sense. Back to the Allo as potential root cause then... truscellino's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69928 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-28 Thread dkskl
truscellino wrote: > That doesn't look right to me. > > 99.8% CPU for niced processes, almost 0% CPU idle... just to play a > simple song. > I don't have any RPi in running order right now to do the same and > compare. Hopefully someone can? > > A couple of more questions: > > > - What

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-28 Thread Paul Webster
Looks like the number comes before the label not after it. If so then this is 99.8% idle Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia,

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-28 Thread truscellino
That doesn't look right to me. 99.8% CPU for niced processes, almost 0% CPU idle... just to play a simple song. I don't have any RPi in running order right now to do the same and compare. Hopefully someone can? A couple of more questions: - What are these processes that take CPU? top

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-28 Thread dkskl
truscellino wrote: > Ah, never had to do that on PicorePlayer... I am not even sure what > tools are installed by default for monitoring. Hopefully someone can > step in with good advice. > > An easy one to start, is to ssh into the machine with LMS running, and > run the *top *command while

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-28 Thread truscellino
Ah, never had to do that on PicorePlayer... I am not even sure what tools are installed by default for monitoring. Hopefully someone can step in with good advice. An easy one to start, is to ssh into the machine with LMS running, and run the *top *command while music is streaming. CPU usage

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-27 Thread dkskl
truscellino wrote: > mmm... hard to make any sense of this... so by pulling the ethernet > cable, you have disconnected LMS from internet, basically. That could be > another root cause. It could be interesting to monitor LMS activity (on > the server machine obviously) when drop-outs occur. > If

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-27 Thread truscellino
mmm... hard to make any sense of this... so by pulling the ethernet cable, you have disconnected LMS from internet, basically. That could be another root cause. It could be interesting to monitor LMS activity (on the server machine obviously) when drop-outs occur. If there is a happy gamer in

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-27 Thread dkskl
BREAKTHROUGH!!! -i hope... Now before you shoot me down with your basic-wisdom-bullets, remember i know next to nothing about how switches, routers etc works on the local network;) But last night i had an idea, that turned out to be one of these rare HEUREKA moments for me: What if i pull the

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-27 Thread dkskl
sota748 wrote: > Cheap solution if you want try the BNC output on your Allo Digione > Signature > > https://www.av-cables.dk/composite-adapter/bnc-han-til-phono-rca-hun.html Thank you. I´ll keep it in mind :) dkskl's

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-26 Thread sota748
dkskl wrote: > I haven´t tried to change output as i don´t have a cable with bnc > connectors. My dac only have rca coax input. > But i have tried other rca cables and the result was the same. > The connectors on the digi sig hat looks and feels to be in fine shape.. Cheap solution if you want

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-26 Thread dkskl
Man in a van wrote: > @dkskl > > Have you tried switching co-ax outputs and / or cables > > ronnie I haven´t tried to change output as i don´t have a cable with bnc connectors. My dac only have rca coax input. But i have tried other rca cables and the result was the same. The connectors on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-25 Thread Man in a van
@dkskl Have you tried switching co-ax outputs and / or cables ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115167

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-25 Thread dkskl
truscellino wrote: > Ah, you are on to something! So there is a data transfer problem between > your raspberry Pi and your Allo device. Is that the one requiring two > different power supplies? > I found this link for example where the symptoms are worse (no sound at > all) but error messages

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-24 Thread truscellino
dkskl wrote: > 32 bit version and still the occational dropout. > > However i opened the diagnostics page, just to see if i could spot > something that could look like a bug. > Mind you, i don´t have any clue, what anything means, when it comes to > codes, command lines etc., but i found this

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-23 Thread dkskl
32 bit version and still the occational dropout. However i opened the diagnostics page, just to see if i could spot something that could looked like a bug. Mind you, i don´t have any clue, what anything means, when it comes to codes, command lines etc., but i found this in the pcp_dmesg.log:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-22 Thread dkskl
Different buffering settings didn´t help and i did try up to near extreme values. No luck with removing the ssd either. And thumbs down to a 32 bit version in the server as well. Next up is a fresh 32 bit card in the client. Fingers crossed.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-22 Thread dkskl
chill wrote: > Are these two clients synced? If so, try unsyncing and perhaps (soft) > powering off one of the clients. If they're not synced, do you get the > dropouts on both clients? > > I had a similar problem some years ago (pCP Squeezelite synced to two > Booms) and found that

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-22 Thread Man in a van
dkskl wrote: > Yes. Thats right. I use 64 bit on RPI 4Bs. > Are there any known issues with this combo? Or do you think the > squeezelite / kernel settings should be different to how you would > configurate a RPI 3B / 32bit? I have just popped a 64 bit card into my rpi3B+ (I'm not going to

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-22 Thread chill
dkskl wrote: > and a RPI4b/pCP8 streaming client (LMS not installed). > A RPI3b client is also on the network. > Are these two clients synced? If so, try unsyncing and perhaps (soft) powering off one of the clients. If they're not synced, do you get the dropouts on both clients? I had

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-22 Thread dkskl
kidstypike wrote: > Well it wouldn't take very long to burn a new SD card with the standard > 32bit version . . . and try that? > > https://docs.picoreplayer.org/downloads/ I even think i have a spare sd card > with the 32 bit version installed. I´ll look for it later today.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-22 Thread kidstypike
dkskl wrote: > Yes. Thats right. I use 64 bit on RPI 4Bs. > Is there any known issues with this combo? Or do you think the > squeezelite / kernel settings should be different to how you would > configurate a RPI 3B / 32bit? Well it wouldn't take very long to burn a new SD card with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-22 Thread dkskl
Man in a van wrote: > You have the 64 bit pCP version > > I use the 32 Bit Standard > > ronnie Yes. Thats right. I use 64 bit on RPI 4Bs. Is there any known issues with this combo? Or do you think the squeezelite / kernel settings should be different to how you would configurate a RPI 3B /

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-21 Thread Man in a van
dkskl wrote: > Yes. Default is the better word. Sorry for my english ;-) > I´m using the same output and ALSA settings as you. > > piCorePlayer v8.0.0 | www v00017 | linux 5.10.42-pcpCore-v8 (64) | > piCore v13.0 | Squeezelite v1.9.9-1386-pCP You have the 64 bit pCP version I use the 32 Bit

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-21 Thread dkskl
Eliminating the switch and connecting the server directly to the router didn´t help. The glitches are still there... Tomorrow i´ll try some different buffering settings again. And if that doesn´t help, i´ll run LMS without the ssd and maybe also play through the headphone jack.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-21 Thread dkskl
Man in a van wrote: > I'm intrigued by this as I have the same device and no drop outs :) > > I'm not aware of any settings recommended for the Digi Sig, do you care > to share ? > > I just use default settings > > > > rpi3B+, Ethernet to a switch, 32 bit standard pCP > > > > ronnieYes.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-21 Thread dkskl
Hi all, Thank you for your inputs and ideas. I have just bypassed the switch and i have time to listen to music this afternoon (dk time). I will report back :) dkskl's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-21 Thread Man in a van
dkskl wrote: > The interface is S/Pdif coax through an Allo Digione Signature and the > audio and buffering settings are the std recommended for Digione. > I have tried a lot of different settings though. But to no avail. I'm intrigued by this as I have the same device and no drop outs :)

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-20 Thread truscellino
dkskl wrote: > The interface is S/Pdif coax through an Allo Digione Signature and the > audio and buffering settings are the std recommended for Digione. > I have tried a lot of different settings though. But to no avail. Actually another possible test is to remove temporarily the Allo

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-20 Thread Paul Webster
Since it resumes all by itself, I'd suggest increasing the buffer sizes that Squeezelite uses to see if that increases the time between pauses or makes the pauses shorter or even eliminates them. If the problem goes away than you can decide whether or not it is worth investigating further at

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-20 Thread dkskl
truscellino wrote: > I haven't experienced these personally, but the fact they happen even > with internet radio tells me this has nothing to do with power, CPU load > or ALSA tweaks, because of the low data rates involved here. Most likely > 128k/192k mp3 streams, even 15y-old electronics can

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-20 Thread kidstypike
Have you tried eliminating the switch? Try the Pi running LMS directly into the router? *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.0.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/pCP 8.0.0/Topping E30 DAC/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ >

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-20 Thread dkskl
Paul Webster wrote: > On your pCP player device - what do you have in the various audio and > buffering settings on the Squeezelite page? > > What is the interface between pCP player and the audio chain?The interface is > S/Pdif coax through an Allo Digione Signature and the audio and

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-20 Thread truscellino
I haven't experienced these personally, but the fact they happen even with internet radio tells me this has nothing to do with power, CPU load or ALSA tweaks, because of the low data rates involved here. Most likely 128k/192k mp3 streams, even 15y-old electronics can play these without any

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-20 Thread Paul Webster
On your pCP player device - what do you have in the various audio and buffering settings on the Squeezelite page? What is the interface between pCP player and the audio chain? Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),

[SlimDevices: Unix] Drop outs, drop out, drop outs...

2021-09-20 Thread dkskl
Just can´t seem to get rid of them. Every 15 -20 minute a short, 0,2-0,3 sec., drop out. Not much, you can say. But to me, it´s annoying as hell, just sitting there waiting for the next one, instead of enjoying the music. Sometimes it seems the sound is a little distorted too... The drop outs,