> On 13 Aug 2015, at 9:09 pm, Mark Waddingham wrote:
>
> That's very true. Indeed, perhaps one could argue that GitHub needs
> service-hooks which allow customization of merging and diff display. That
> general feature there would solve the VCS problem in a natural way for a
> number of types
On 2015-08-20 00:12, Lyn Teyla wrote:
But that's just it — the network/sockets revamp using open language
(presumably LCB) *is* one of the items on the roadmap from the
Kickstarter campaign. While SFTP isn't specifically mentioned, that
"generally-useful LCB URL library" is. Here's the roadmap a
On 08/19/2015 11:17 AM, Stephen MacLean wrote:
Wow, that is a flash back!
Indeed. I believe I still have a Prograph CD around somewhere because I
just couldn't bear to part with it.
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On 08/19/2015 11:59 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote:
On 2015-08-19 20:52, Richmond wrote:
Can this be done?
Peter beat me to the answer.
Yes, I did exactly this a few years ago (in fact, I think I went 32-bit,
to 64-bit, to 32-bit, and back to 64-bit, bringing my /home all the way).
That's pret
Ah memories indeed.
Prograph still exists (and works on current OSX) albeit as a project of love.
http://www.andescotia.com/products/marten/
As for Metropolis, unfortunately not. Bought and killed.
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Good call:
and for a small bit of coin...there's this:
http://www.versionsapp.com/
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Kauai's Hindu Monastery
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Peter TB Brett wrote:
Subversion does everything you've described already, better (including
the file locking aspect
In line:
The regular requests for SFTP support are noted and SFTP support is on
our internal list of feature requests -- indeed, I was recently
discussing it with Mark Waddingham. However, it will be a large
project that will involve writing and thoroughly testing a lot of new,
security-crit
Richmond said:
> Of course this is all about taste (meaning
> it's all in the mouth) so it would seem best,
> if an all-in-one IDE like the VB6 one is to
> be introduced to have it as one of 2 options.
Single vs multi window does not matter as long as the editor is up to scratch
and I can vie
Actually this app is pretty much already built.. I just have to change a
small amt of code in an existing tool.
@ Peter
I will take a look at subversion...
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Monte Goulding wrote:
On 20 Aug 2015, a
Peter TB Brett wrote:
> On 2015-08-19 21:53, Lyn Teyla wrote:
>
>> If a libCurl wrapper using LCB is in development, wouldn't the above
>> be a non-issue? That is, adding SFTP (or any other libCurl-supported
>> protocol) shouldn't need to involve writing and testing a lot of new,
>> security-crit
Pyyhtiä Christer wrote:
> As many of us I have paid for the licenses, put money out for free
> development expecting some wanted features, continued for Indie
> advancement payments (hope to live beyond the licenses expire),
> I have to ask my colleague developers, are you making any money with
>
On 8/19/2015 4:29 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
On 20 Aug 2015, at 7:23 am, J. Landman Gay wrote:
So... I don't suppose I can persuade you to upgrade to LiveCode
Business, can I?
I shouldn't need Business for that, should I? My script uses "get url", I guess
"open file" works differently?
Yo
Sorry, it seems part of that accidentally became a quote.
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>
> Excellent progress. With that foundational work out of the way it would
> seem an excellent time to optimize the most important part of the IDE,
> the script editor.
>
> Version 7 is where the company makes money today, and as the foundation
> for v8 it's also where the company will make its
Oh Yes!
I've made a living for the past 8 or 9 years from apps I built with
liveCode. No I have not become a multi millionaire but am doing fine.
I guess what I do a bit differently is I get a job within a company and they
do all the marketing stuff. I just code and talk to IT people.
Recently I w
> On 20 Aug 2015, at 7:23 am, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
>> So... I don't suppose I can persuade you to upgrade to LiveCode
>> Business, can I?
>
> I shouldn't need Business for that, should I? My script uses "get url", I
> guess "open file" works differently?
>
> You must have looked at my bug
On 8/19/2015 4:12 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote:
On 2015-08-19 22:29, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Thanks very much. The terminal command returns 0 (and BBEdit can
handle the file too) so it seems to be valid. I'll submit a bug
report, I can share the file without any issues.
The following seems to work
On 2015-08-19 22:29, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Thanks very much. The terminal command returns 0 (and BBEdit can
handle the file too) so it seems to be valid. I'll submit a bug
report, I can share the file without any issues.
The following seems to work correctly:
on importLanguage
loc
Hi Richmond,
When trying to get your cost estimates from the manufacturer just use
the same tile example you showed us. They only need to know how
many pieces they are producing, and as to how difficult the pieces might
be to produce using how many colors etc. Don’t give them any specifics
which
> On 20 Aug 2015, at 5:26 am, Brahmanathaswami wrote:
>
> 1) the VCS discussion is for super brains; even if realized may involve a
> level (GIT) of system management overhead/learning curve that developers
> focused on actual content production -- don't need, have time for, nor want
> to
I am pretty sure there are many who made and still make money with Livecode
apps.
I for example have an app, unfortunately a niche product, which i am selling
through Kagi for some time which gives me some revenue. I am selling round
about 10 to 20 copies a month.
I´ve created 6 iOS and Androi
> On 20 Aug 2015, at 5:39 am, Peter TB Brett wrote:
>
> Subversion does everything you've described already, better (including the
> file locking aspects). And it has an HTTPS interface, so you could write a
> client in LiveCode that uses libUrl to communicate with a Subversion server.
Too q
On 2015-08-19 21:53, Lyn Teyla wrote:
If a libCurl wrapper using LCB is in development, wouldn't the above
be a non-issue? That is, adding SFTP (or any other libCurl-supported
protocol) shouldn't need to involve writing and testing a lot of new,
security-critical code, since libCurl has already
On 8/19/2015 2:34 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote:
On 2015-08-19 21:09, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Just to follow up: When importing foreign language files, "file" isn't
working. Non-ascii characters show up as question marks and textDecode
does nothing.
Using "binfile" and then textDecoding does import co
Richmond wrote:
Why does this script NOT work in a small stack?
on mouseUp
palette stack "AUTOSAVE"
put the short name of the topStack into TSTAK
put TSTAK & " / " & the time & " / " & the date into TSTAKN
put TSTAKN into fld "TSTAKN"
save the topstack as TSTAKN
end mouseUp
On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Peter TB Brett
wrote:
> On 2015-08-19 20:27, Lyn Teyla wrote:
>
> Have you guys at LiveCode Ltd thought about implementing this revamp
>> of networking/sockets by simply writing a libCurl wrapper using
>> LiveCode Builder?
>>
>
> Yes -- one of our very first, high p
Peter TB Brett wrote:
> On 2015-08-19 20:27, Lyn Teyla wrote:
>
>> Have you guys at LiveCode Ltd thought about implementing this revamp
>> of networking/sockets by simply writing a libCurl wrapper using
>> LiveCode Builder?
>
> Yes -- one of our very first, high priority ideas for an LCB-based p
Why does this script NOT work in a small stack?
on mouseUp
palette stack "AUTOSAVE"
put the short name of the topStack into TSTAK
put TSTAK & " / " & the time & " / " & the date into TSTAKN
put TSTAKN into fld "TSTAKN"
save the topstack as TSTAKN
end mouseUp
Richmond.
_
Although playing around with LiveCode for a number of years and enjoying -
often 'trial and error' - haven't really got anywhere close to see the fruits
for the effort making an application.
As many of us I have paid for the licenses, put money out for free development
expecting some wanted fea
On 2015-08-19 21:26, Brahmanathaswami wrote:
STACKLE: Really Simple Revision Contro (RSRC) l for LC Livecode (and
perhaps any other document type)
"Pass the Baton/Stack"
Well the day has come. I'm going to build it. I needed this two months
ago.
If you are interested, please reply off list.
On 2015-08-19 21:09, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Just to follow up: When importing foreign language files, "file" isn't
working. Non-ascii characters show up as question marks and textDecode
does nothing.
Using "binfile" and then textDecoding does import correctly but then
text chunking by lines fails
Ali Lloyd wrote:
> As far as I'm concerned these have all been strict prerequisites
> for any genuine progress on modernisation and usability improvements
> of the IDE.
>
> The biggest current roadblock is the script editor which is large and
> dense, and the debugger.
Excellent progress. With
STACKLE: Really Simple Revision Contro (RSRC) l for LC Livecode (and
perhaps any other document type)
"Pass the Baton/Stack"
Well the day has come. I'm going to build it. I needed this two months ago.
If you are interested, please reply off list. I will create a Google doc
and invite anyone w
On 8/19/2015 2:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Just to follow up: When importing foreign language files, "file" isn't
working. Non-ascii characters show up as question marks and textDecode
does nothing.
Using "binfile" and then textDecoding does import correctly but then
text chunking by lines fail
> Am 19.08.2015 um 20:31 schrieb Scott Rossi :
>
> Never used it, but yeah.
>
> I was thinking of something like MTropolis which wasn't really free form,
> but similar.
Thinking of mTropolis brings tears to my eyes. A great tool with a really sad
end. Shame on you Quark Inc. !
Still have a co
Richmond wrote:
> I would like, initially to market it in the form of either plastic or
> card tiles in a box.
>
> Later on I might make a LiveCode game with it, using a commercial
> version of LiveCode.
>
> In the latter case I would want to make sure that another company
> would be discouraged
Just to follow up: When importing foreign language files, "file" isn't
working. Non-ascii characters show up as question marks and textDecode
does nothing.
Using "binfile" and then textDecoding does import correctly but then
text chunking by lines fails. Line endings are imported as 2 bytes us
Since nobody needs to pay money to "copyright" a work, or in fact nobody
NEEDS to "copyright" a work, because it already is copyrighted, I'd say
this website is merely a way to lose some money.
If you want some real proof, just ask some people to read it for you and
ask for comments. That is a
On 2015-08-19 20:52, Richmond wrote:
I might actually "pull my finger out" and change my Xubuntu box over
to a 64-bit version of the OS only because:
1. LiveCode 8 ?
2. VMware player does not work on Xubuntu 15.04 or 15.10 with the 4.1
kernel.
However, I am hoping I can do this while han
I might actually "pull my finger out" and change my Xubuntu box over to
a 64-bit version of the OS only because:
1. LiveCode 8 ?
2. VMware player does not work on Xubuntu 15.04 or 15.10 with the 4.1
kernel.
However, I am hoping I can do this while hanging onto my HOME partition
. . .
A few words on the IDE:
Although we've not been able to prioritise IDE development in the 8.0
cycle, a great deal of work has been done and groundwork for future
improvement laid.
Firstly, a fair portion of that work has gone into supporting widgets, both
in terms of their integration in the IDE an
On 2015-08-19 20:27, Lyn Teyla wrote:
Have you guys at LiveCode Ltd thought about implementing this revamp
of networking/sockets by simply writing a libCurl wrapper using
LiveCode Builder?
Yes -- one of our very first, high priority ideas for an LCB-based
project. I even made a start on it,
Ah . . . at last I found the term I was looking for that describes
"that picture":
https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/000/343/164/117dbdeb72106130b0c233e454653d14_original.png?v=1358445536&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=b51b389fb4ab85d0e86d29ecafb66656
a Single Document Interface.
Ri
Never used it, but yeah.
I was thinking of something like MTropolis which wasn't really free form,
but similar.
http://www.gamutart.com/motion/interactivity/muntadss_mtropoli_view.gif
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
On 8/19/15, 10:40 AM, "Lynn Fredricks"
On 19/08/15 20:47, Rick Harrison wrote:
Hi Richmond & Roger,
You are referring to some kind of DRM (Digital Rights Management). While
in theory it sounds great, very often products that do this are boycotted
by users who find out about it, and it can ruin one's product sales.
No, I'm not.
I
Peter TB Brett wrote:
> The LiveCode engine can already do secure communication using SSL (Secure
> Socket Layer). It would *probably* be possible to use "secure socket" to
> implement FTPS (FTP over SSL) in scripts, without any engine changes (i.e. in
> libUrl).
Given the following
> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Lynn Fredricks
> wrote:
>
>> This kind of visual drag-and-drop programming UI has been
>> done (and will continue to be done) for decades, and works
>> pretty well for simple logic.
>
> Flashback:
> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.10/10.11/PrographC
The general reason for "registering" copyrights if to prove the date of
the copyright if there ever is a lawsuit.
If I release an App that states copyright @2010 on it and 2 years later
in 2012 someone releases an identical app that says copyright @2012 and
we get in to a lawsuit, how do I prove t
Hi Richmond & Roger,
You are referring to some kind of DRM (Digital Rights Management). While
in theory it sounds great, very often products that do this are boycotted
by users who find out about it, and it can ruin one's product sales.
Years ago I had a shareware game that I asked people to reg
Thanks for so much advice of all sorts!
My feeling is that a copyright should be sufficient;
or, put another way; if I make my "million" then I'm not going to
worry unduly if somebody then starts copying the thing.
Richmond.
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Pantents are not cheap and have a long
waiting period. Another thing to consid-
about a patent is lets say you designed
a new type of screwdriver. If you have
used that somewhere like the workplace
you will be denied the patent. So you will
need to make your decision about getting
a patent in ad
> This kind of visual drag-and-drop programming UI has been
> done (and will continue to be done) for decades, and works
> pretty well for simple logic.
Flashback:
http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.10/10.11/PrographCPXTutorial/ind
ex.html
Remember this?
Very interesting concept at th
> There is no need to register your copyright any more in order
> to receive protection (although it may assist in enforcement).
>
> On the other hand, whether you have copyright on something
> and whether you can make money out of it are usually uncorrelated.
My understanding is that if you do
On 2015-08-19 18:49, Richmond wrote:
However, before I roll along to the local plastic moulding factory I
want to try to ensure that the owner of the factory doesn't
merrily steal my product or start selling copies out the back door.
You may need to investigate design patents as well, if you'r
You could have your software log first-time app launches to a LC server
database just to inform you that it has been installed somewhere, and
include some kind of trace code to the purchaser. When you see 1000+
launches from different IP Addresses, you'll know it has gotten out into
the wilderness
On 19/08/15 19:39, Peter TB Brett wrote:
On 2015-08-19 18:25, Richmond wrote:
I have recently invented a tiling game that can be produced as a
physical game and as a computer game.
This involved a lot of thought and a lot of work, and as a result I
would like to try and make some money
out of it
On 2015-08-19 18:25, Richmond wrote:
I have recently invented a tiling game that can be produced as a
physical game and as a computer game.
This involved a lot of thought and a lot of work, and as a result I
would like to try and make some money
out of it rather than just "give it to the world".
I have recently invented a tiling game that can be produced as a
physical game and as a computer game.
This involved a lot of thought and a lot of work, and as a result I
would like to try and make some money
out of it rather than just "give it to the world".
However, never having copyrighted a
Good for beginners, yes. But also for speciaized areas of a workflow, like
navigation defaults. I didn't say lets make a UI that doesn't require any
code. The Automation Engine I use has tasks that are for specialty
purposes, but also within this workflow environment you can add a external
task
Here we go: Just 3 minutes ago, I received a announcement from Webflow for
their new visual CMS:
https://webflow.com/cms
Building without programming is a popular trend :-)
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
On 8/19/15, 8:35 AM, "Scott Rossi" wrote:
>This ki
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
> There's pretty persuasive evidence now that the shadowed variable bug is
> caused by stopping a debug run early.
>
I'll watch for that, then. But it absolutely has to go; it costs me at
least several minutes, and sometimes a full hour, out
This kind of visual drag-and-drop programming UI has been done (and will
continue to be done) for decades, and works pretty well for simple logic.
The whole "build without writing code" concept is pretty big right now.
But visual programming becomes unwieldy and difficult to follow when logic
gets
Thank you!
Yes I do have some things in mind.
As I have said in other post I know
a little bit about c++ and objective-c
so I am not completely up to par on
using pointers and c etc. I will need
to go review lessons and code to even
correctly write the pointer but I have
used them in learning and
Speaking of workflows, we use a product called Automation Engine in our
prepress shop. You may not think "programming" when you hear the word
"prepress", but with AE, that is exactly what it is. We take business
logic, and map it to tasks, loops, forks, file io, error handlers, etc.
with a graphi
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