Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Paul Hibbert wrote: > Having read some of the posts, especially from RG, I’m now trying to > work in LC without the Tools Palette or the ToolBar being visible... This has made living lean a little easier for me: -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Syste

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

> On 4 Mar 2016, at 12:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > AFAIK this has always been how it works. In fact I discussed this with Dr. > Raney shortly after if was implemented, and in his view it works as spec'd: > when you mouseDown anywhere in browser mode it doesn't do marquee select, so > wh

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 4 Mar 2016, at 8:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Ironically, drag-select is the exact use case that prompted me >> to STOP using cantSelect. I was working on a drawing pane and >> had an object covering the full space within the drawing region >> behind everything

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

> > hh wrote: > > Will not work with LC 8 for a while, LC 6.7.10 is in average 16 times > > faster here. And in average 10 times faster than LC 7. > > FourthWorld wrote: > My own test are showing v8 rather close for v6 in performance, and much > faster than 7. What script(s) are you running whi

LC8 dp15 Cef Browser crash in Ubuntu

Hi All, I just updated this report with screenshots from the Cef Browser crash report window from Ubuntu. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15931 Please, if you use Ubuntu and LC8 dp15 crash while using Cef browser, check these screenshots and verify if your crash report is the simila

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

Install works fine for me, however, the PB in 7.1.3 RC 1 still shows resize issues by not updating the contents to suit the new window size. I found swapping lines 2652/3 of the PB stack script in 7.1.3 RC 1 fixes the problem there, but in 6.7.10 RC 1 I also had to disable line 2658. Is it wort

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

Congratulations go to Fraser, who implemented the new installation method on osx ;) On 3 Mar 2016 21:52, "[-hh]" wrote: > Yet another variant if one doesn't like to use dragging, Finder 10.11.2 is > very buggy with that, and all that spring-loading folders (or if one is not > fast enough with typ

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

I made a custom plugin stack. In the plugin settings, it's set to open invisibly on startup. In the plugin stack script: on preOpenStack insert script of btn "abc" into front insert script of btn "xyz" into back -- a bunch of other customizations end preOpenStack Works great, I forget it'

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 03/03/2016 02:44 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: How do you go about inserting this everytime you boot? Put it in a plugin stack Plugin's stackPreOpenStack inserts the script in front Set the plugin to run when the IDE launches -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com __

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

> On 4 Mar 2016, at 8:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Ironically, drag-select is the exact use case that prompted me to STOP using > cantSelect. I was working on a drawing pane and had an object covering the > full space within the drawing region behind everything else I wanted to user > to

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

hh wrote: > Will not work with LC 8 for a while, LC 6.7.10 is in average 16 times > faster here. And in average 10 times faster than LC 7. My own test are showing v8 rather close for v6 in performance, and must faster than 7. What script(s) are you running which get those results? -- Richar

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

How do you go about inserting this everytime you boot? On March 3, 2016 at 9:30:17 AM, J. Landman Gay (jac...@hyperactivesw.com) wrote: I changed this years ago in a custom frontscript: on tabKey if controlkey() = "down" then if the tool = "pointer tool" then

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

> Richmond M. wrote: > Presumably the reason that 6.7.10 is called that rather than 6.8 is a > signal that this is really the end of the line for the 6 series? > I still cannot quite work out why the Livecode people continue releasing > versions of the 6 series when the 7 series is well establish

LC8 IDE Parser

First of all...Kudos to the Dev team for tightening up the IDE parser!!! I had a library stack that would not compile because this is not allowed anymore "repeat while (1=1))" no complaints from LC6 but LC8(rightfully so) flags this as a compile error. But this caused me some confusion. When th

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

Yet another variant if one doesn't like to use dragging, Finder 10.11.2 is very buggy with that, and all that spring-loading folders (or if one is not fast enough with typing for the terminal one-liner): Simply select the app icon (by mouse or keyboard) and copy. Go to where you wish to have it (u

Image Quality

Am I missing something here on an images control? If the LC prefs are set to "Property labels are: Name of LiveCode Property" One of the labels for an image in the Property Inspector is "Quality". This is not an image property. The property is really named "resizequality". In the IDE if resizeq

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Mark Wieder wrote: > On 03/03/2016 11:52 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: >> Not sure about LC8, but up until now, I've used the cantSelect >> property to create styled background regions on top of which >> foreground objects can be selected. One example is the checkerboard >> pattern that's often used in

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Yes and no. The application can't be dragged onto the Applications folder > icon in the DMG folder, like most other installers I was able to to that with no problem at all, and it successfully launched, activated its license, and ran -- Dr

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

On 03/03/2016 09:55 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: Hi Mark, I am not sure I follow. I do the following steps: 1. Download the .dmg 2. Once the download finishes, click on the .dmg 3. The dmg folder opens, and I can see the LC icon and the Applications folder icon. 4. From there, I can drag the L

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 03/03/2016 11:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: As for the Inspector, it may be time to consider a property sheet rather than manually arranged control layouts. VB and Toolbook use prop sheets and I love having absolutely every property available in one place. Helps with learning too, so folks ca

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 03/03/2016 11:52 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Not sure about LC8, but up until now, I've used the cantSelect property to create styled background regions on top of which foreground objects can be selected. One example is the checkerboard pattern that's often used in graphics applications to indicat

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

On 03/03/2016 18:12, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 03/03/2016 17:48, Tim Bleiler wrote: In the blog post, Mark states that "The fact that script only stack files really are just text files is really important! It means you can edit and create them in any text editor you choose, and use any text based

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

On 03/03/2016 18:59, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: It would seem that script-only stacks would not be able to be locked—have the password property set. This would seem to be a limitation for commercially-released projects with library stacks, unless they are a substack of something else. Yes, that'

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

> TimB wrote: > If I open one up in TextEdit and save it, Livecode gives me the error > message: “Unable to open stack: File is not a stack”. Hi Tim, I’m not seeing that here with LC 8.0 (dp 15) 1. Launch TextEdit 2. File > New 3. Format > Make Plain Text 4. type script "test2" on openstack ans

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

Robert Mann wrote: > GPL is a very special kind of automatic contract that is attached > to a piece of work and which describes what the receiver of that > piece of work can or not do with it. > > As such it is a very special contract in the world of contracts > because it does not require the ag

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Whoops - filter box gone in 8. My bad. On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Not sure about LC8, but up until now, I've used the cantSelect property to > create styled background regions on top of which foreground objects can be > selected. One example is the checkerboard patter

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Not sure about LC8, but up until now, I've used the cantSelect property to create styled background regions on top of which foreground objects can be selected. One example is the checkerboard pattern that's often used in graphics applications to indicate a transparent background. By enabling a co

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Robert Mann wrote: > << I believe any media or other content (whether separate files or not) > distributed with the application and/or required to make it function fully > would need to be licensed in a GPL compatible license.>> > > Hi Monte, I believe (!) that t

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

This a great solution Paul. And by using a roundrect graphic in place of a button, you can create pill-style (fully radiused) button -- unless there's a radius setting for roundrect buttons I've missed somewhere. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 3/3/16, 6

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

It probably doesn’t matter much as long as it’s made clear what encodings are allowed. I would guess most users taking advantage of this feature could live with that. Casual users may be confused however, because most of us don’t give much thought to such details; a text file is a text file. Mar

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

That is indeed the use case I used to justify the inclusion of the property when I contributed it. The other one was a quick way to convert an existing stack to scriptOnly without copy and paste. There was some discussion if we should add the property due to the risks to stack content when setti

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

I know I have discussed this with Mark Waddingham before. I believe he was originally thinking of allowing other encodings at some point but was not averse to my suggestion of only supporting UTF8 with or without BOM. Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Mar 2016, at 6:17 AM, Tim Bleiler wrote: > > I g

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

> On Mar 3, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > > It would seem that script-only stacks would not be able to be locked—have the > password property set. > > This would seem to be a limitation for commercially-released projects with > library stacks, unless they are a substack of someth

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 4 Mar 2016, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> >> I'm also curious now about the use case for cantSelect > > I've used it before with large background images Ke graphics. > It's pretty annoying to be trying to drag select multiple objects > above another object that you

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 3/3/2016 8:22 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: Slightly off-the-subject, but for usability, command-9 and command-0 are a PITA to reach for me, as a right-hander, when my right is usually on the trackpad or mouse. I changed this years ago in a custom frontscript: on tabKey if controlkey() = "down"

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

I've used it before with large background images Ke graphics. It's pretty annoying to be trying to drag select multiple objects above another object that you don't want to start dragging around... Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Mar 2016, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > I'm also curious now abo

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

> On Mar 3, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Tore Nilsen wrote: > > I think TextWrangler is a better choice than TextEdit for this purpose. In > textWrangler you can specify both UTF 16 and Unix line endings. > TextWrangler shows a working script only stacks as UTF-8, with BOM and Unix (LF). A “broken” on

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

Presumably the reason that 6.7.10 is called that rather than 6.8 is a signal that this is really the end of the line for the 6 series? I still cannot quite work out why the Livecode people continue releasing versions of the 6 series when the 7 series is well established. Richmond. On 3.03.20

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

I guess you checked that the first line is not empty and that there is no space before the first line? "script" must be at the beginning of first line. Engine is very pick at that. And sometimes the engine/ide adds another line at top, leading to 2 lines starting with "script" so in the erasing p

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

Tim Bleiler wrote: >> On Mar 3, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> I wonder if it needs to use LC's native line ending, ASCII 10, >> rather than ASCII 13 that many Mac tools use. > > Thanks Richard, > > First, do you know of way to set this in TextEdit? I don’t see > anything that can

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

I think TextWrangler is a better choice than TextEdit for this purpose. In textWrangler you can specify both UTF 16 and Unix line endings. Tore > 3. mar. 2016 kl. 19.57 skrev Tim Bleiler : > > > >> On Mar 3, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Richard Gaskin >> wrote: >> >> I wonder if it needs to use LC's n

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

It would seem that script-only stacks would not be able to be locked—have the password property set. This would seem to be a limitation for commercially-released projects with library stacks, unless they are a substack of something else. Peter Bogdanoff UCLA > On Mar 3, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Steve

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

<< I believe any media or other content (whether separate files or not) distributed with the application and/or required to make it function fully would need to be licensed in a GPL compatible license.>> Hi Monte, I believe (!) that this belief is kind of a key issue in attempting to identify the

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

> On Mar 3, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > I wonder if it needs to use LC's native line ending, ASCII 10, rather than > ASCII 13 that many Mac tools use. Thanks Richard, First, do you know of way to set this in TextEdit? I don’t see anything that can change that. Second, if tha

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

I was just reading that the line endings can be different (because of course they can). http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/scripts1.html#trouble *Make sure line endings in scripts are correct for the server platform. DOS line endings are carriage return and linefeed. Unix line endings are a

Does revert command not work on palettes?

I have a routine that includes: set the defaultStack to tValidStackName revert ...and instead of reverting the specified stack it reverts the topmost toplevel stack. Why? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web _

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

Tim Bleiler wrote: Thanks Peter, I gave that a try and I still get the same message. My attempts to create them from scratch were saved as UTF-8 and I’ve tried all the other options in TextEdit as well. I have noticed that if I open a functioning script only stack in ATOM it is identified a

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

Thanks Peter, I gave that a try and I still get the same message. My attempts to create them from scratch were saved as UTF-8 and I’ve tried all the other options in TextEdit as well. I have noticed that if I open a functioning script only stack in ATOM it is identified as UTF-8. Tim > On

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

On 03/03/2016 17:48, Tim Bleiler wrote: In the blog post, Mark states that "The fact that script only stack files really are just text files is really important! It means you can edit and create them in any text editor you choose, and use any text based processing tool on them…” I’ve been tryi

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

Hi Mark, > Am 03.03.2016 um 18:55 schrieb panagiotis merakos > : > > Hi Mark, > > I am not sure I follow. I do the following steps: > > 1. Download the .dmg > 2. Once the download finishes, click on the .dmg > 3. The dmg folder opens, and I can see the LC icon and the Applications > folder ico

Use behaviors for button properties

Is anyone using behaviors to set the presentation layer properties of buttons in their stack this seems to be perhaps a more facile way to adjust the look and feel of your interface rather than using the template button you could just have a behavior and change the behavior I could have sworn th

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

Hi Mark, I am not sure I follow. I do the following steps: 1. Download the .dmg 2. Once the download finishes, click on the .dmg 3. The dmg folder opens, and I can see the LC icon and the Applications folder icon. 4. From there, I can drag the LC icon anywhere I want, either onto the Applications

[Blog] Script Only Stacks

In the blog post, Mark states that "The fact that script only stack files really are just text files is really important! It means you can edit and create them in any text editor you choose, and use any text based processing tool on them…” I’ve been trying to work with script only stacks on Mac

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

On 03/03/2016 09:05 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: The installer is no longer required on OSX. The installation process on OSX has been updated to no longer require an installer. Instead, LiveCode now installs like most other OSX applications: drag the app from the DMG to your Applications folder

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

Whoa, Stacks can now be behavior references? Now that is terrific. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Steven Crighton To: use-livecode Sent: Thu, Mar 3, 2016 11:14 am Subject: [Blog] Script Only Stacks Dear List In LiveCode 8 there is a new option in the (new) 'New Stack' s

Toggling Browse-edit modes (was Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues)

> On Mar 3, 2016, at 7:22 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Slightly off-the-subject, but for usability, command-9 and command-0 are a > PITA to reach for me, as a right-hander, when my right is usually on the > trackpad or mouse. Remember the HC days where it was cmd-tab, cmd-tab-tab, > etc.? How abou

Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

Dear List Members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.10 RC 1 and 7.1.3 RC 1. This is a maintenance release containing bug fixes for both versions. You can see the list of the bugs fixed in the release notes. Moreover, this release includes an important feature: The installer

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Mike, I don’t see a search field in the Project Browser, this is what it looks like when it errors… https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3u68fott2n5npd/Screenshot%202016-03-03%2008.46.32.png?dl=0 Thanks for replying anyway. Paul > On Mar 3, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > Paul, > You can als

Re: Apple Automator

Hi Kay, This was exactly what I was looking for and answers a lot of my questions. Thanks! Glen On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Glen Bojsza wrote: > > Is it possible to launch Apple Automator shell scripts from LC app? > > If by shell script

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Thank you for your reply Mark, it’s good to know the teams perspective on these things. Unfortunately, finding a reproducible set of steps isn’t proving easy, I’m currently having problems with the Message Box and Project Browser (Bug: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17048 ), where

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Paul, You can also click in the search field and then click outside of it to force a refresh. Mark, I have a bug report in for an issue with the PB not populating when a stack loads. I don't think it has been dealt with, yet. On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2016-03

[Blog] Script Only Stacks

Dear List In LiveCode 8 there is a new option in the (new) 'New Stack' submenu: Script only Stack. Mark has just published a blog post on this very subject https://livecode.com/script-only-stacks/ Looking forward to hearing your comments.

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 2016-03-03 01:55, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/02/2016 02:21 PM, panagiotis merakos wrote: The "mysterious lock icon with a 'Show' tootip" is setting the cantSelect property of the control. The tooltip should reflect that though, so we have to update it. I'm curious, though, about the decisio

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 2016-03-03 16:35, Mark Wieder wrote: I'm also curious now about the use case for cantSelect. I realize it's not going away since it's always been there, but I'm having trouble coming up with a scenario in which this is useful. My worry is that we're putting a pretty obscure setting front and c

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 03/03/2016 01:09 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: Hi Mark, I think the cantSelect property was always settable from within the Project Browser. The reasons are discussed in http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16416 Hope this helps, Thanks - that does help. I have to say, though, that

Re: v8 selection appearance

Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 03/03/2016 15:22, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> I can appreciate the benefit of the dashed outline added to an >> object to further reinforces its selected state in addition to >> the presence of the selection handles, but I find it sometimes >> distracting as it prevents me

revBrowserPrint

How would you change the print orientation when using revBrowserPrint from portrait to landscape? Thanks Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscriptio

v8 selection appearance

I can appreciate the benefit of the dashed outline added to an object to further reinforces its selected state in addition to the presence of the selection handles, but I find it sometimes distracting as it prevents me from seeing the actual border pattern of the object. Is there a global prop

Re: v8 selection appearance

On 03/03/2016 15:22, Richard Gaskin wrote: I can appreciate the benefit of the dashed outline added to an object to further reinforces its selected state in addition to the presence of the selection handles, but I find it sometimes distracting as it prevents me from seeing the actual border patte

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 2016-03-03 16:02, Paul Hibbert wrote: On the subject of improving the Project Browser, I would like to see a ‘Refresh’ button added to this palette, probably in the header bar by the gear icon. Sometimes the PB doesn’t always update in the way you would expect and the only way to refresh it ri

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On the subject of improving the Project Browser, I would like to see a ‘Refresh’ button added to this palette, probably in the header bar by the gear icon. Sometimes the PB doesn’t always update in the way you would expect and the only way to refresh it right now is to close and re-open the pale

Re: Set the Opacity of a Button Background

You are more than welcome, like most people on this list I’m just pleased to help. :) I’m sure you’ll realize, but the key to this effect is using the Ink setting ‘blendHardLight' with neutral colours, then any tone above 50% will darken the colours below and any tone less than 50% will lighten

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

I also agree that tools/widgets should be cleaned up. The number of button and field tools, in an age of widgets, especially, is too many. Slightly off-the-subject, but for usability, command-9 and command-0 are a PITA to reach for me, as a right-hander, when my right is usually on the trackpad or

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

On 2.03.2016 23:57, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 02/03/2016 21:45, Roger Eller wrote: I very much dislike those super dark icons in the new IDE. Especially when the icons in the Tools menu are a completely different shade of gray. They should be consistent across the IDE. I also dislike jerk

Re: Summary: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

I've hesitated to wade in on this but I think LiveCode's "official" interpretation of the GPL is wrong and also a mistake. I thought that there was a policy of encouraging those that produce libraries for other developers to also dual-license them - I didn't realise that was only supposed to be all

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Hi Mark, I think the cantSelect property was always settable from within the Project Browser. The reasons are discussed in http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16416 Hope this helps, Panos -- On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:55 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > On 03/02/2016 02:21 PM, panagiotis merako