It's a tough issue. There are some Linux users on the list. But instead
of Runrev trimming the list of official available platforms, what's
happening in practice is they are poorly supported: one poster to this
list every month or so begs for a SGI IRIX Rev engine which he has been
trying to
Brent,
Try this:
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/downloads/developerdownloads/Networking.zip
Works great!
On 05/02/2004 01:58:25 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
Hello.
I am writing a group of programs designed to communicate with each
other over a network and wanted to know specifics on the best
They already are different. On Windows, stacks included in
applications are put in the same folder as the app, but on OS X they
are put down inside the applications.
Not if you think of the MacOS folder as the application directory. Don't
forget the application bundle is just a set of
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Hi Folks,
As a test I have the following script to insert
1,000,000 records into
a Valentina database. The script works without
error (although I had
to use revdb_commit since revCommitDatabase returns
an error that the
command is not
Hi guys,
I'd like to send SMS to individual mobile phones
from a Rev CGI script...
Could this be done with libSMPT ? If not, what
other solutions ?
Thanks,
JB
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I'm searching for the inserted cd's drive letter on an XP machine by
looking for a file on the cd using each of the drive letters in the
volumes. On other PCs this works fine; on the XP machine it brings up
an insert media warning/dialog for each removable drive that doesn't
have something in
Hi guys,
I'd like to send SMS to individual mobile phones
from a Rev CGI script...
Could this be done with libSMPT ? If not, what
other solutions ?
Thanks,
JB
If you can send it from normal email client, then yes, smtpLib should
work same.
Robert
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I'm searching for the inserted cd's drive letter on an XP machine by
looking for a file on the cd using each of the drive letters in the
volumes. On other PCs this works fine; on the XP machine it brings
up an insert media warning/dialog for each
As I recall there are four P's in marketing: Product, Price, Place and
Promotion. These four work together dynamically and not in isolation.
Any decision about price has to consider the company's ability to
promote the product and place (distribute) it in a consumer's hot
little hands.
How
Hi there,
I'm currently working on a website project for a client
who wants to sell data online.
This guy is very protective (almost paranoid) about his
data, and wants it to be shipped to customers only in the
form of locked PDF files with restricted privileges (low-res
print only, no cursor
On 05 Feb 2004, at 05:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:06:33 -0700
From: Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Directory Walker question
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip
So the
Below appears the result of the detailed folders. Both folders and
the Rev app share the type and creator, so that's not the
answer; and as others have pointed out, the .app is an optional
(though recommended) extension.
This may have been mentioned in a previous digest but it's been so
helpful for me that I thought it worth repeating.
I'm using a program called ManOpen that is simply a reader for the
man pages already on your Mac. Here is a description from it's help
menu item:
ManOpen is a graphical
All in all my advice is don't get angry at people who simply can't see the
forest for the trees. As my dad used to say to me: Don't tell me. Show
me.
Or as a wise person once said, Never suspect malice if ignorance is
a possibility. :{`)
--
Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company
Taking this one step farther, couldn't all stacks that don't need
to maintain runtime changes to data load from a single copy used by
every workstation?
Would saved and otherwise modified stack files be excluded, then?
Yes, Dar.
In the absence of an arbiter/server a la EPSI-Talk, I don't see
I am writing a group of programs designed to communicate with each
other over a network and wanted to know specifics on the best way to
have one program send and receive over a network connection, how to
set it up in Revolution, and any other tips and commands that I
can't seem to find in the
Jerry Daniels wrote:
Maybe there are sales figures and cash flow to back the $99 approach. I
don't know. Do people convert to more expensive licenses after getting
a taste for 99 dollars? Do ten times the number of people buy the $99
version than would have purchased the $995 version? Is $495
On Feb 5, 2004, at 12:50 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
I've seen (and made) some tutorials on building icons for Windows
apps. And
using a utility like Install Creator from Clickteam
(www.clickteam.com) is a
great way to build an installer for Windows.
For Windows I *highly* recommend InnoSetup
- Original Message -
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Andy's comments and positioning...
Jerry Daniels wrote:
Maybe there are sales figures and cash flow to back the $99
On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 08:42 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
Not if you think of the MacOS folder as the application directory.
Don't
forget the application bundle is just a set of folders.
I don't think most users would think of it that way. It is really
handy for me, of course.
I
Andy Burns wrote:
How did Sun benefit from Java, giving it away as a free programming
language?
I don't believe the benefit is monetary. Java is valuable to Sun for
strategic reasons, a major de-facto standard not under Micro$oft's control.
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Media
- Original Message -
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Andy's comments and positioning...
Andy Burns wrote:
How did Sun benefit from Java, giving it away as a free programming
Well, it may be a function of having a mail
gateway to your celular system. I have rigged
myself to have sms sent to me by my computer if
my server stops responding. In order to receive
these SMS's, I had to enable email service on my
SMS account (and I pay for each incoming
email-sms unlike
Hi All,
As the reactions to the Macworld review continue to resonate, I am
feeling a sense of deja vu ( some worry) as I read suggestions that
the way to deal with the perceived prejudice against HyperCard,
XTalks in general, and Revolution by extension is to build the best
application one
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Rob Cozens wrote:
For those of us who would rather choose a non-confrontational stance,
there is still one thing you can do to fight the legacy of X-Talks
prejudice:
DISPLAY THE MADE WITH RUN REV IMAGE ON EVERY APPLICATION YOU RELEASE!
If you run
Imagine that you have a pie chart with four slices, when you change the
size of slice 1 you change the size of slices 2 to 4 as well.
That's the four P's of marketing. I don't think we can talk about the
Price without talking about the nature of the Product, the way it is
distributed (Place)
Another scheme would be to have all stacks find (create paths for)
needed stacks based on a location relative to that stack.
Dar,
Take this one step further by creating a generalized stack search
handler that will look in several different folders, relative to the
main app folder and/or in
Oops... example two was supposed to be for education market, not
hobbyists.
-JD
On Feb 5, 2004, at 12:24 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
Imagine that you have a pie chart with four slices, when you change
the size of slice 1 you change the size of slices 2 to 4 as well.
That's the four P's of
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 10:31 AM, Rob Cozens wrote:
Why allow multiple placement options for libraries other files?:
1. Some O/S environments dictate that modifiable files cannot exist
in the same folder as the application.
Right. I limited my focus on stacks that would not be
You're not thinking C#, are you? It isn't free and only runs on Windows.
At 11:39 AM 2/5/2004, you wrote:
What was Micro$oft's free alternative to Java that ran on all OS's?
Andy
Peter T. Evensen
http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com
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From: Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Andy's comments and positioning...
You're not thinking C#, are you? It isn't free and only runs on Windows.
At 11:39 AM
Andy Burns wrote:
I'm not a critic. Why are you singling me out?
I'm just a beginner at Revolution and have done some fun stuff. I released
OmniLotto as freeware. It was so much fun to develop. Freeware, no less.
Granted, others could probably bum lots of code but I didn't ask for help.
Rob Cozens wrote:
For those of us who would rather choose a non-confrontational stance,
...arguaby the only option likely to ultimately yield buy-in. Confrontation
too often leads to a digging in of heels, rational or not.
Let our actions speak for us.
there is still one thing you can do to
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 01:14 PM, Rob Cozens wrote:
In my designs, a standalone generally starts using all libraries it
needs on startUp or preOpenStack, so the time taken to determine the
actual location of the libraries is factored into the application
startup delay.
OK. So in the
- Original Message -
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Let Rev's Light Shine...or Watch It Go Out
Andy Burns wrote:
I'm not a critic. Why are you singling me out?
I'm just a
On 2/5/04 4:14 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 01:14 PM, Rob Cozens wrote:
In my designs, a standalone generally starts using all libraries it
needs on startUp or preOpenStack, so the time taken to determine the
actual location of the libraries is factored into the
Hi every one.
What is the best way to select a DB record into a form view window with
multiple fields ? (not with the db manager ,because I don't want to
give the user access to the data itself to tamper with, to avoid
corruption.)
Thanks hershrev
http://www.salcentral.com/x/smsreg.asp
They way they work in any application
On Feb 5, 2004, at 1:11 PM, Alex Rice wrote:
On Feb 5, 2004, at 2:22 AM, jbv wrote:
Hi guys,
I'd like to send SMS to individual mobile phones
from a Rev CGI script...
Could this be done with libSMPT ? If not,
I have to buttons that each start and stop different processes, with
the output of each process being placed in separate fields.
I also have a field that I can see the processes that Revolution has
opened and the order in which they were opened.
The problem I have discovered is that I must
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 03:38 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
I am starting to lose track of what we are talking about, but maybe
this helps: you can start using a stack any number of times, but it
only actually gets used once. So it doesn't matter who starts to use
what when.
But what if
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 01:14 PM, Rob Cozens wrote:
In my designs, a standalone generally starts using all libraries it
needs on startUp or preOpenStack, so the time taken to determine the
actual location of the libraries is factored into the application
startup delay.
So if a
My T-Mobile has an email gateway, but not every cell phone provide
may. Are you wanting to do this in the US?
Here's a list of international email to SMS gateways:
http://www.cellular.co.za/email_to_sms_gateways.htm
You might be able to find more.
Found this on the web (for the USA):
Sprint
On 2/5/04 4:57 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
But what if it is not in the expected location?
Library A' from vender A needs library B' from vender B. Library A' has
some notion where B' is and refers to it there. Developer C puts B' in
a different location and then makes the developer's app C' start
Now maybe someone will ask Why don't you just do it the usual way? to
which I respond that I know of no usual way and I make up my own.
Do you know about the stackFiles property?
So a path is created to find stacks. It is based on these:
IDE or application?
Platform? (This might be under
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 04:22 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
Adding differences between your development folder and your app
folder is a big no no in my book.
I'm not _adding_ differences. They are already there.
Besides, I'm mainly asking a question.
Dar
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 04:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
But what if it is not in the expected location?
Library A' from vender A needs library B' from vender B. Library A'
has some notion where B' is and refers to it there. Developer C puts
B' in a different location and then makes
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 04:22 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
This is where I think your making things complicated for yourself. Why
not
put all your stacks in the MacOS folder?
I'm trying to be willing.
I guess that willfully going against Apple recommendations is being
obnoxious and
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 04:22 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
Now maybe someone will ask Why don't you just do it the usual way?
to
which I respond that I know of no usual way and I make up my own.
Do you know about the stackFiles property?
Yes. But I might not be using it right.
There
Adding differences between your development folder and your app
folder is a big no no in my book.
I'm not _adding_ differences. They are already there.
Yes... it's the DB doing it.
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On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Rob Cozens wrote:
For those of us who would rather choose a non-confrontational stance,
there is still one thing you can do to fight the legacy of X-Talks
prejudice:
DISPLAY THE MADE WITH RUN REV IMAGE ON EVERY APPLICATION YOU RELEASE!
If you run away
On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 04:01 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
What compilers are you folks using for what platforms (from what
platforms) for making externals?
Windows: VC++ 6 (have later, maybe...)
OS X: Project Builder (Xcode in the box, right here)
So these two will change soon. I'm
Michael Young wrote:
I know customers, who can barely operate a word processor, but they
dictate the tool that the professional developer uses.
That's the focus of Geoff Moore's book Crossing the Chasm, about how
successful software grows by understanding the different personality types
at
Howdy List:
Apologies for interrupting the ongoing (and ongoing and ongoing) library
stack discussion -- just wanted to interject a question about
determining/establishing ports for communication using Rev.
What port/address combination would I use to allow multiple Rev apps to
communicate
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 07:51 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
So let's say there are two machines behind the same firewall on one
side of
the net, and two machines behind another firewall on the other side.
It would be hard for peer-to-peer communication to work here. You
might consider a
It drove me crazy that the VW window kept resetting, so I worked out
this technique: open it up and set it how you would like it. Then hold
down ALL the modifier keys (Shift, Control, Option Command) and click
in the Variable Watcher. From the popup menu that appears, choose
Stack Card and
On 2/5/04 5:52 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 04:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
I don't think there is an official established procedure, but I'd put
all my library stacks together in one folder. When it was loading
time, I'd set the directory to that folder and start
Hi Andy,
Yes, the title of my origianl post:
Andy's comments and positioning was referring to the author of the
MacWorld article, who's first name also is Andy. Sorry for the
misunderstanding :-)
best,
Chipp
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Hi Dar,
I think it's up to the developer to link libraries during the development
phase, and to distribute the application with the linked libraries in the
order which works best for him/her.
BTW, when you get a chance, can you email me a copy of Chipp's really cool
3D render stack? I would love
Alex,
Thanks for the info. Great stuff. Now if only I could understand any of it
;-) Not to worry, I'll bang around and ask questions.
Who said Macs were easier? Not when it comes to compiling and delivering
apps! (--WARNING: OBVIOUS TROLL)
Is it possible to edit the app bundle info.plist file
Hey anyone, how 'bout making a Rev app do to all of this
stuff automatically?
The Distribution Builder already does all this stuff automatically.
Cheers
Monte
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Richard Gaskin wrote:
That's the focus of Geoff Moore's book Crossing the Chasm, about how
successful software grows by understanding the different personality
types
at play in different stages of growth.
I will check out the book.
Bean counters play an increasing
role as growth moves forward,
After much script wrangling, I was finally able to get Rev to talk itself
on
two machines behind *the same* firewall on port 80 (8080). My extremely
limited understanding of ports and their numbers leads me to believe that
this port is not commonly blocked (though obviously it could be) and
This is where I think your making things complicated for yourself. Why
not
put all your stacks in the MacOS folder?
I'm trying to be willing.
I guess that willfully going against Apple recommendations is being
obnoxious and unfriendly. In other discussion on this list we saw how
Adobe
Now maybe someone will ask Why don't you just do it the usual way?
to
which I respond that I know of no usual way and I make up my own.
Do you know about the stackFiles property?
Yes. But I might not be using it right.
There needs to be a way to set this for each target platform
On Feb 5, 2004, at 9:01 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
Hey anyone, how 'bout making a Rev app do to all of this
stuff automatically?
The Distribution Builder already does all this stuff automatically.
Yes, but it does weird stuff- or used to at any rate: Like naming the
executable Revolution, and
So let's say there are two machines behind the same firewall on one side
of the net, and two machines behind another firewall on the other side. Do I
need to determine both the public and private addresses of all machines
who want to play, and then somehow combine the addresses into a single
Hey anyone, how 'bout making a Rev app do to all of this
stuff automatically?
The Distribution Builder already does all this stuff automatically.
Yes, but it does weird stuff- or used to at any rate: Like naming the
executable Revolution,
I can change this right now... ;-)
and having
Hi All,
After many promises and delays, I have finally completed my POP
library, now available at http://www.troz.net/Rev/
To quote from the blurb on my web page:
A library of handlers for communicating with a POP3 server for
receiving emails. It connects using your user name password,
This is called IP Tunneling. You can designate your outside world IP
to map any port number to any one local IP number/machine. This is
done with the router software. On Lynksys and many other routers they
are web based.
Different port numbers can go to one machine or several, but only one
On Feb 5, 2004, at 10:42 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
Yes, but it does weird stuff- or used to at any rate: Like naming the
executable Revolution,
I can change this right now... ;-)
That's an important one because if the app crashes, then the crash
report will say Revolution and the user will be
On Feb 5, 2004, at 11:43 PM, Alex Rice wrote:
CFBundleName can make MacOS display a different name than the
executable name, but it's best to just name the executable correctly I
think.
Key point being- for crash reports you want the executable file named
correctly, because CFBundleName won't
On 6 Feb 2004, at 3:42 pm, Monte Goulding wrote:
and having the wrong (runrev's) copyright
information.
Under what circumstances? Perhaps if you've left them empty?
No, it always puts RunRev's copyright in instead of anything I enter in
the DB. I edit it manually in the plist, but this
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