Re: data struc lib

2004-07-08 Thread Meitnik
In a message dated 07/08/2004 01:46:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: did anyone here, by chance, implemented common data strucutres like stacks and queues, like  stacks with first in last out behaviour and first in first out behaviour... I want to use Stacks, Queues and Graphs (we call

RE: [ANN] Color Converter utility

2004-07-08 Thread FlexibleLearning
In a message dated 08/07/2004 05:35:55 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm... did you use libColor for this? That's what it was created for? No, Monte, it doesn't use libColor so, for those of us who are dyed-in-the-wool MetaCard users, it does not need Revolution to work

total beginners database series.

2004-07-08 Thread Bob Hartley
Hi all I have put up the first part of a total beginners guide on a page I have http://www.gla.ac.uk/~rh82p/mydb.html Just to give you an idea of what I envisage. All the best Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CNC software by Rev

2004-07-08 Thread Mark MacKenzie
Hi all. I am starting a personal project of building controlling and driving software done in Rev for an automated drilling machine which I am also building to do various book binding/paper drilling tasks. So, has anyone done or come across any Rev application which deals with CNC machine

Re: Documentation Books

2004-07-08 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Wed, 07 Jul 2004 Chipp Walters wrote: Y'know, in my mind, I think 'the interface *IS* the program. For the user, this is the case. You assume the users point of view, and this is a must for commercial applications. ;-) top-down programming for me always begins first with a blueprint

Re: Documentation Books

2004-07-08 Thread Bob Hartley
Hi there I agree. I share the same method. The interface *tells* me what needs to be programmed and how. ;-) Well the data required first tells me what has to be included then the interface is made and then the code to drive the data-interface is next. So similar for me. Interesting!

Re: Groups and backgrounds

2004-07-08 Thread Rob Cozens
If a group's backgroundBehavior property is true, the group is also in the message path for any cards it is placed on. --- What you are describing is the former. What I want is the latter. Troy, That is indeed what the Rev Dictionary says...I stand corrected. -- Rob Cozens CCW,

Re: anyone here implemented common CS data structures... (stack, queue...)

2004-07-08 Thread Rob Cozens
did anyone here, by chance, implemented common data strucutres like stacks and queues, like stacks with first in last out behaviour and first in first out behaviour... Hi Andre, I have used LIFO queues in HyperTalk and Transcript. The queues are simply global or declared local variables

REVClips support needed

2004-07-08 Thread Glen Bojsza
CLIPS has released an updated version of code that includes bug fixes and funtionality. After speaking with Alex at Mindlube , who did the original CLIPS externals for Revolution (REVClips) , he said that he will be unable to continue supporting these externals for Revolution. Not being a

Re: How to extract characters from the middle of a string?

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Vaughan wrote: On 08/07/2004, at 8:47, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I have a string containing 25 characters, how do I extract the eight characters starting at position 5 in the string? [In BASIC this would be left$(5,8) or some such.] This should be a simple thing to do but

Re: [ANN] The Scripter's Scrapbook version 4

2004-07-08 Thread FlexibleLearning
Thank you, Bob... You'd have thought I could spell it corrctly by now! /H www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk.htm The URL below has an extra T in learning so use www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk.htm Cheers Bob A personal reference library database organiser of your all code snippets, tips, links and

Re: Groups and backgrounds

2004-07-08 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jul 8, 2004, at 4:20 AM, Ken Ray wrote: It should work just that way. I opened a new stack in Rev, grouped a couple of objects, set the backgroundBehavior of the group to true and put this script in the script of the group: on Test answer Hello end Test Then I created a button that was

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Elizabeth Dalton
I (and many others) have noted that there is really insufficient information on how to connect to a USB device. Since USB devices are so common now, that would be a very useful short tutorial topic. Given the marketing on the Express web page, I'd recommend developing tutorials AND sample

Re: Tall scrolling groups

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Troy Rollins wrote: I'm putting together some documentation stacks for my recently finished Rev app. These are mostly long fields of text with interspersed screenshots, etc. I like Rev's ability to scroll groups, and am using that to create fairly long scrolling streams of content, perhaps 3x

Re: Read from file, then display results?

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: I also find I *rarely* need to work with arrays, as using List data (variables with lines with tab delimited items) are almost as fast And sometimes faster. I had to write a query engine for one of my client's projects, and found that using repeat for each line is about

Re: Tall scrolling groups

2004-07-08 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jul 8, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Anyone have any tips for working with groups which are taller than the card it is displayed on? Do you temporarily make the stack window as tall as your monitor will allow and then size it down before publishing? I don't think I understand

Re: Where is Search Documentation?

2004-07-08 Thread Jim Lyons
On Jul 8, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Marian wrote: I dug up a copy of 2.0.3 and I see that the Help menu is entirely different from that found in 2.1.2. I, too, could not find an option to Search Documentation. Maybe this feature was added in 2.1? Does anyone know? The Search Documentation was a Plugin

search is a plug-in in Rev 2.0.1 (Re: Where is Search Documentation?)

2004-07-08 Thread revolution
In Rev 2.0.1 I follow this menu path: Development/Plugins/Search Revolution Documentation Bernard Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/2004 13:40 Please respond to How to use Revolution To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:

Is RevNet broke?

2004-07-08 Thread Jim Lyons
The last few times I've tried to get RevNet this is what happens: 1. After pressing the button in GoRevNet (using Rev 2.2.1 on Mac OS 10.3) the download of 132K proceeds normally. 2. The RevNet stack comes up and looks normal. The first card contents are all there. The bottom says, RevNet

RE: Groups and backgrounds

2004-07-08 Thread Ken Ray
First, are a background group's scripts available in a preOpenCard message if the background exists on the card that is being entered? Yes. Once again I verified with a simple test: make a stack with two cards, the first card has nothing on it and the second has a group with

creating a log file

2004-07-08 Thread Chris Sheffield
In doing some testing, we're having some problems with an application where it just unexpectedly quits when running under OS X. So far I have been unable to reproduce the problems on my own computers, but others in my office are reporting that this is happening. So what I'd like to do is create

Re: anyone here implemented common CS data structures... (stack, queue...)

2004-07-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Rob- A while back a friend invented a cross between a queue and a stack (you could get items off either end) and named it a quack. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CNC software by Rev

2004-07-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark- I started on a CNC controller some time last year. I'll dig out what I've got and send it to you. The hard part isn't figuring out the CNC protocol (the G commands and such) but getting the controller part right so you don't snap off drill bits or have things flying across the room. --

Re: anyone here implemented common CS data structures... (stack, queue...) OT

2004-07-08 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Mark, Rob- A while back a friend invented a cross between a queue and a stack (you could get items off either end) and named it a quack. A couple of years ago my father crossed a pheasant with a duck! He named it ehm... Harold :-) -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL

Re: Is RevNet broke?

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jim Lyons wrote: The last few times I've tried to get RevNet this is what happens: 1. After pressing the button in GoRevNet (using Rev 2.2.1 on Mac OS 10.3) the download of 132K proceeds normally. 2. The RevNet stack comes up and looks normal. The first card contents are all there. The bottom

Re: creating a log file

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chris Sheffield wrote: Is there some kind of all encompassing message that gets sent that can be used to extract information about other messages? You might find UmbrellaMan useful -- see the Stacks listing in RevNet. It's sort of an umbrella for catching events and posting them to a list in

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Judy Perry
I'm in... just last night started pulling together what I can find of my handouts. Mine will be simple things -- the first is an intro to Rev and a walk through of making a simple presentation stack. I have some others on various animation techniques, dialogue boxes, math (simple, again; with

Re: How to extract characters from the middle of a string?

2004-07-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/7/04 9:50 PM, David Vaughan wrote: On 08/07/2004, at 8:47, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I have a string containing 25 characters, how do I extract the eight characters starting at position 5 in the string? [In BASIC this would be left$(5,8) or some such.] This should be a

Completely OT: Lose Your Marbles

2004-07-08 Thread Mark Wieder
When you start Lose Your Marbles, your computer may stop responding (hang): http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=189344 and more at http://jill.jazzkeyboard.com/qarticles.html -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ROTFLASTC) ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: Documentation Books

2004-07-08 Thread Jim Hurley
It is with some hesitation that I offer this in connection with this discussion of books and documentation. Some years ago I wrote a small book: LOGO Physics, Holt, Reinhardt and Winston It was intended to provide a workbook for students of LOGO, to advance their LOGO skills and allow them to

Re: anyone here implemented common CS data structures... (stack, queue...)

2004-07-08 Thread Dar Scott
On Jul 8, 2004, at 7:33 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Yes, the only way I could implement queues and stacks was using box lib, I wanted to see if someone managed to implement them without it... I think I'll release this code next week, some new data structures are always a good thing to have. One

Where is Search Documentation?

2004-07-08 Thread Kurt Kaufman
Well, I couldn't resist. I dug up a copy of 2.0.3 and I see that the Help menu is entirely different from that found in 2.1.2. I, too, could not find an option to Search Documentation. Maybe this feature was added in 2.1? Does anyone know? I have to admit, I didn't know it (the Help menu Search

sql misfunction

2004-07-08 Thread hershbp
Hi, I think the columnByNumber() doesn't work properly with PostgreSQL. By the way does any body know Sarah's web site ? There is a sql stack I'd like to see. Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Documentation Books

2004-07-08 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 7:13 AM -0500 7/8/2004, Marty Billingsley wrote: Er.so how *do* you use the Search Documentation tool? I launch Rev 2.0, go to the Help menu ... The search dialog was added in 2.1, I'm afraid. ;-) But I think my initial search tool was available as a plugin in 2.1 - check Development

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Judy Perry
Marian, If you want to see some really raw sample stacks the likes of which you mention at the end of your post, try seeing if you can anonymous ftp into my department's server: lupus.ecs.fullerton.edu -- jperryl -- public Try AdvancedButtons.rev.zip, ButtonsButtonsButtons.rev, MapStack.rev,

Re: Problem with png format?

2004-07-08 Thread Judy Perry
OT, obviously, but did the png transparency issue ever get resolved? Judy On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Marian Petrides wrote: John I am using v 2.1.2, developing primarily on Mac but running on Mac (OS X) and Win XP, doing some tweaking in WinXP, too. I use a PNG for the background for all my

Re: Where is Search Documentation?

2004-07-08 Thread Judy Perry
And I think it's very different now from v. 1, which we had been using (the demo version) in my lab for the last couple of years. Always threw me for a loop when I'd be up in front doing a demo and would be about to show how to search... and... where the *%! is it?? ;-) Judy On Thu, 8 Jul

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Marian Petrides
I wasn't so much asking for myself, however, but rather advocating that we show some easy whiz-bang stuff to prospective purchaser (home/hobbyist/K-12 market). Seems to me there was a little animation tutorial or something in the bundle with Rev 1.0, but I was thinking of something that would

msg to Elizabeth Dalton

2004-07-08 Thread moe2
to Elizabeth Dalton i have a (less than RR cost) set of RR manuals ... if you interested, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] monika Elizabeth Dalton ps - the printed manuals seem quite expensive. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Judy Perry
Amen! See comments below (if interested). On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Elizabeth Dalton wrote: Essentially, if you claim newbies can do this stuff with Express, show them how. These should be bundled with the RR download and explored in tutorials similar to the Independent Study tutorial. It wouldn't

Re: Documentation Books

2004-07-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Nice idea, Jim. I've downloaded it and I'll go through it over the next few days. Many years ago there was a book (actually a mini-series) called Programming for Poets that taught fundamental programming to right-brain types, avoiding math almost completely and focusing a great deal on string

Re: Documentation Books

2004-07-08 Thread Judy Perry
A..., hence your frustration. That's really a shame and one which I don't understand. I mean, I bought the book despite suspicions that goodly parts of it would be WYYY over my head. It's a bit why I keep my Rev license current to the level I can afford (despite not 'needing' it to

Send Tabkey Command Fails

2004-07-08 Thread Tom Cole
I have a HC stack I'm converting and it has a number of send tabkey commands in the script. However, I find that any handler that contains the words send tabkey results in an error message saying that the handler can't be found. Can someone kindly tell me what takes the place of send tabkey in

Custom property selection of text

2004-07-08 Thread Barry Levine
I have a stack with a field that contains a line of text. I want to programmatically select (hilite) a portion of the text. If I use something like: select word 1 to 4 of field 1 wait 2 seconds ...that works fine. However, each card on which the field appears will have a different sentence with

Re: CNC software by Rev

2004-07-08 Thread Mark MacKenzie
Great!! I suspected as much. I expect I will have the same problems. However, I need to make this work and will put a fair bit of effort into it. As a jackleg tool and die machinist in an other life I might manage to triumph over the vagaries of inanimate objects such as CNC drills taking

RE: creating a log file

2004-07-08 Thread Chris Sheffield
Thanks, Richard. I'll take a look. Sounds like it might do exactly what I want. Chris Sheffield Software Developer Read Naturally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:40 AM To: How to use

Re: CNC software by Rev

2004-07-08 Thread Mark MacKenzie
I can't speak for Mark Weider but I wish to use some of my older Macs for this task. I remember looking into this a number of years ago and something about a stand alone adapter being required for Macs which I think would run from the ADB connnection. I will look into this in any case and if

Re: CNC software by Rev

2004-07-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Mark M, I don't know how related this might be but I have been playing with robot controllers and X10 stuff for a while and also with Telescope software. Anyway, One thing I have found for any serial devices is that the key serial to usb issue is using the Kensington High Speed serial adapter.

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Hi Dan, HyperCard came with a bunch of starter stacks accessible through the Home stack. The most interesting for me as a newbie were in the Stack kit section, especially Stack templates, Readymade buttons, Readymade fields and even Background art. This meant that with only copy paste, I

Re: total beginners database series.

2004-07-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Hi Bob, Great start, friendly writing and lots of screen shots. Scanning through the page, I came across a stack I though I recognized :-) A closer look revealed that it was indeed my calendar stack - I'm glad you like it. You then give instructions on how to insert one of the calendar stacks

Players and no QT on Windows

2004-07-08 Thread Troy Rollins
Now that I hear that Players don't have to use QT on Windows, I'm wondering, is there a streaming video media format which works with Windows that does not require Quicktime? Aside from streaming, can a player use an MPEG4 file on Windows without QuickTime? DiVX? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd.

Re: scripting simultaneity

2004-07-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I think you need to use a send in time message. Basically, each gif will have a goToNextFrame hander which will advance to the next frame or back to frame 1 of it is at the end. Then you can use a line like: send goToNextFrame to img Gif A in gSpeedA ticks (or milliseconds) were gSpeedA is a

RevDocs working group (was: Documentation Books)

2004-07-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
There have been some great ideas about how to enhance the documentation for Revolution. Maybe it's time to do something with all that energy - I've put together a Yahoo Group for discussion on enhancing the Rev docs: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RevDocs/ The aim of the group is to pool the

Re: anyone here implemented common CS data structures... (stack, queue...)

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Rob, nice setup you have! I am debuging and clearing my cursed comments on my data structure lib, I'll release it soon, I am just implementing some more code... I've implemented a LIFO Queue using box lib by Dar Scott, actually, the box lib is almost a second nature to me, sometimes I think I

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jul 8, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Elizabeth Dalton wrote: - A stack which can be used to control Lego Robots through the USB port (for a student who wants to control robot behavior, and this would also address the USB issue), or, if the Lego version isn't where you want to go, a little stack about

Re: creating a log file

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Chris, I can't tell you from memory but there are some ways to grokk inside the Rev engine when a error occurs and see why, like informations on context and the like. That might help you, if you look inside Rodney and Monte libCGI code, you'll see their error routine, it does just that. since

Re: anyone here implemented common CS data structures... (stack, queue...)

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jul 8, 2004, at 2:08 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Rob- A while back a friend invented a cross between a queue and a stack (you could get items off either end) and named it a quack. Mark, ahuauhahuahuahuahuauhahuhua... I just imagine the talk: BOSS: what's that structure? DEVELOPER: thats a recursive

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
- A stack which can be used to control Lego Robots through the USB port (for a student who wants to control robot behavior, and this would also address the USB issue), or, if the Lego version isn't where you want to go, a little stack about building and controlling a very simple robot from

Pinyin display problem (may be a bug)

2004-07-08 Thread Elizabeth Dalton
Hi, When attempting to display pinyin (a romanization of Chinese) in a field, I encounter a spacing problem, in which vowels with tones appear to have an extra space before and after them, causing the word they are in to look very strange. For example, the word jian (see) looks like ji a n.

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jul 9, 2004, at 12:20 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I would love to be able to do this. I downloaded all the opcodes at one point but it fell off the priority list :-( I have used USB to serial converters with Rev with great success as they are just considered to be serial ports. There is a

Re: sql misfunction

2004-07-08 Thread hershbp
On Thursday, July 8, 2004, at 10:11 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Hi, I think the columnByNumber() doesn't work properly with PostgreSQL. By the way does any body know Sarah's web site ? There is a sql stack I'd like to see. Yes, I know :-) The SQL stacks on my page are only tested with MySQL, so

Revolution strange behaviour in function names...

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi folks, I am implementing a simple CS Datastructures lib, I am using Box Sequences by Dar Scott. I was implementing my functions like function ds_push ... end ds_push when calling get ds_push() all I receive is a unknown handler... the others works... all handlers without underscore

Re: CNC software by Rev

2004-07-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Thursday, July 8, 2004, 7:12:50 PM, you wrote: TMI Mark M, TMI I don't know how related this might be but I have been playing with TMI robot controllers and X10 stuff for a while and also with Telescope TMI software. Anyway, One thing I have found for any serial devices is that TMI the

Re: Revolution strange behaviour in function names...

2004-07-08 Thread Dar Scott
On Jul 8, 2004, at 10:25 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: function ds_push ... end ds_push when calling get ds_push() all I receive is a unknown handler... the others works... I don't have any problem in a quick test. Could you be using the function as a command? That wouldn't explain the other

Re: Problems with printing graphics with patterns

2004-07-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/8/04 1:33 AM, Greg McIlhiney wrote: Any pattern that I select displays perfectly on the screen. But when I print the card, the rect is very dark gray. There's a pattern in it but it does not resemble the selected pattern. Now I've tried almost every thing I can think of to work/test around

Re: Revolution strange behaviour in function names... (Data Structure related)

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jul 9, 2004, at 1:54 AM, Dar Scott wrote: Dar, actually DS stands for Data Structure... since Rev already have a push function, I prefixed all functions with DS for they are the dsLib. I was just trying to implement this new and funny Quack data structure when my revolution engine was

Re: Call for Tutorial Topics

2004-07-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Andre Garzia wrote: anyone want help me build a Rev Controled mindstorms lego robot? I would really dig on doing this -- I have a MindStorms (v1) kit. But I think the bigger issue as stated is USB communication: this really needs to be figured out, or the RunRev folks need to

RCX and Rev (was Re: Call for Tutorial Topics)

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jul 9, 2004, at 2:36 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: I would really dig on doing this -- I have a MindStorms (v1) kit. But I think the bigger issue as stated is USB communication: this really needs to be figured out, or the RunRev folks need to acknowledge that it's not possible at this time. In any

ANN: Looking for beta testers for iBlog Blogger Client made with Rev.

2004-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Folks, my new implementation of iBlog reached Alpha, meaning, it is usable! It can manage templates and post to any blogger.com account and any blog engine compatible with the Blogger API 1.0 I need to polish the interface and do some better error handling routines. If you don't own a

Re: Building a standalone

2004-07-08 Thread Yves COPPE
Le 8 juil. 04, à 08:45, Monte Goulding a écrit : Hi, yes, sometimes, I display an answer DLOG with an icon ? for example and other times an icon ! (in the same stack) and an other time an icon x with global grevAppIcons, you can easily to that before displaying the answer you code : put the