Re: _[French]_Un_site_dédié_à _Révolution

2005-07-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ludovic THEBAULT wrote: In the meantime, there are already Japanese and German discussion boards for Rev, included in the Links page at revJournal: http://www.revjournal.com/links/index.html If you start a French list/discussion board I'll happily add it to that page. The french list

Re: newTool?

2005-07-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, seems as if the newTool message is trapped in the frontscript and doesn´t get sent to the card. Is this intended behaviour? From the docs: Handle the newTool message if you want to change something when a tool is chosen. No way to use it in the IDE? Use a

Re: compileIt for revolution?

2005-07-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Tweedly wrote: Alex, that's a valuable itemization. I've copied it below in its entirety because it's worth a second read. Has it been logged as a request to BZ? It would be great to see those addressed. This seems like an opportunity here for someone who's worked successfully with

scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mr. Canyon and anyone else who enjoys an iterative optimization exercise: A common feature in apps that display text are Larger/Smaller text size options. It seems simple at first glance, but in practice it's hard to come up with an especially fast version, given the need to take into account

Re: Massive distribution

2005-07-02 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le 2 juil. 05 à 01:51, MisterX a écrit : On Behalf Of Pierre Sahores PS : who working with Revolution on Windows system ? In beetwin others, see MisterX, alias Xavier Bury, as one of ours best geeks in about windows (and M3's or speedways passioned.. ;-) You're too kind

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Richard, A challenge! Jippieh ok, here is my first shot. Create a text field called test , a button for growing the text Script in the button: on mouseUp put the htmlText of fld 1 into theHtml replace size=quote with size=numtoChar(1500) in theHTML set the itemdel to

Re: resume rev backdrop on top bug?

2005-07-02 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Thomas McGrath III: I have seen patterns used before but did not realize we could use images of our own. Very cool Bewared of the limit on OS X! Just tested with an 640*480 pixel JPG: The resulting tile on the OS X background was 512*256 pixel :-/ On windows you can use bigger images,

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Malte Brill
Minor correction: on mouseUp put the htmlText of fld 1 into theHtml replace size=quote with size=numtoChar(1500) in theHTML set the itemdel to numToChar(1500) if the number of items of theHTML1 then put 0 into itemCount repeat for each item theItem in theHTML add 1 to

test - please ignore

2005-07-02 Thread Malte Brill
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RE: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread MisterX
Richard, Have tried the html way with font size=+2 by anychance? set the htmltext of fld text to font size+2the htmltext of fld text/font Nope... that didn't work but it was worth trying ;) and so here's the taoo's script in draft form ;) (sorry, html is just so messy and there's no guarantee

Re: resume rev backdrop on top bug?

2005-07-02 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jim, I'm not sure if what's being talked about here is the same thing, but if in the IDE, if you turn backdrop on (not even sure where in Edit - Preferences I did that), it is in the Rev menubar under View. it covers everything, even the taskbar and the only way to get to any other

Re: Suggestion for correcting the IDE's script editor AND Endless ranting and rude insults AND other points

2005-07-02 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Björnke, On Jul 01 2005, at 01:29, Dennis Brown wrote: I would be MORE than happy to segregate my posts into the two different categories. There is a lot of traffic on this list, it would make sense to divide up the traffic into these two areas. There is an Improve Rev list, but only

Re: compileIt for revolution?

2005-07-02 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richard Gaskin wrote: comments on the externals SDK... snipped Has it been logged as a request to BZ? It would be great to see those addressed. No, it hasn't - but only because Mark has seen it, and responded to me, and I've sent him more suggestions directly, ... and so I'm comfortable

Undo (was resume rev backdrop on top bug?)

2005-07-02 Thread Jim Bufalini
Richard, But as far as the engine goes, deletion of objects when the pointer tool is active should be completely undoable. I just tried a few deletions in both Rev and MC and they worked fine. I re-tested also. Try this. 1. Select several objects. 2. Hit your Delete key. 3. Click anywhere on

Re: highlight a button in standalone+.rev app

2005-07-02 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Bob, you need to take care that you don´t run into the scriptlimits limitation. If you set the script of a button on the fly in a standalone, that script will be limited to 10 transcript statements. What you can do is have all needed script in the card or stack script. Then set a

Re: design problem: fonts and spacing

2005-07-02 Thread Ken Ray
On 7/1/05 9:41 AM, Charles Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is the case. It's the spaces, not the visible characters, whose representation seems to depend on unknown (inaccessible?) contextual factors. Is it possible it's just Palatino? Or did you try other fonts? Just curious... Ken

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
I think you should get the 'effective' textSize of char x in the handler, since if the textSize is inherited from it's owner, which maybe the field, the card, stack or whatever, it's own textSize will be zero Cheers, Mark On 2 Jul 2005, at 11:09, MisterX wrote: Richard, Have tried

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
But as I just found, on a field with a real lot of text (a field with 437477 chars), this will be impractically slow On 2 Jul 2005, at 12:41, Mark Smith wrote: I think you should get the 'effective' textSize of char x in the handler, since if the textSize is inherited from it's owner,

Re: design problem: fonts and spacing

2005-07-02 Thread Charles Hartman
It might well be just Palatino. I'm just finishing up recasting the examples (only) in Courier, and haven't seen a problem there. Palatino is probably not a good choice anyway (though it's my favorite font for many purposes) -- I see that my 24-point Palatino title on the top card of my

Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?

2005-07-02 Thread Bill
I still can't figure out how to get nine to five reports and hypercard to work with tiger. Hypercard works ok with 10.41 but whenever you use reports it can't find the report file. I tried putting everything in a separate hard drive and that made no difference. On 6/29/05 1:42 PM, Marty

test - ignore

2005-07-02 Thread Malte Brill
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Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?

2005-07-02 Thread Bill
The error I get is Reports can't read the stack header and is unable to proceed. Is your stack password protected? -- the stack is not password protected. I have no idea what the stack header is. On 7/2/05 8:18 AM, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still can't figure out how to get nine to five

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
So this is the best I've come up with, on a 1.5Ghz mac powerbook. on increaseTextSize inc lock screen put the rtfText of fld 1 into ttext replace {\fs with {\fs in ttext --add spaces to make sure tags and their values are separate words set the textSize of fld 1 to the effective

Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?

2005-07-02 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Bill, I found out that HC home paths non longer worked except for stacks which are in the same folder than HC itself. Can be a clue. Not sure. Le 2 juil. 05 à 14:18, Bill a écrit : I still can't figure out how to get nine to five reports and hypercard to work with tiger. Hypercard

Re: Suggestion for correcting the IDE's script editor

2005-07-02 Thread Glenn E. Fisher
All, I vaguely remember from my UNIX and C days that there was a command named cb that was named Program Beautifier. It took C source file as input and wrote a file that had the C source in indented and structured form. There was also a command named uucleanup that did a similar thing with

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Waddingham
Hi all, As a work-around for this at the moment, try setting the filename of a player to a *real* file URL: e.g. file:///Volumes/Primary/Users/mark/Desktop/ mask_with_a_really_really_really_long_filename.tiff This uses a QT function direct, by-passing the engine's present limitation of

Re: Dreamcard Spell Check

2005-07-02 Thread M Young
On Jul 2, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Doug there was a discussion a little while ago on the list about spell checkers. Search the google with spell checker and you should turn up a couple of freebies. Here is the link that I use:

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Mark, Hi all, As a work-around for this at the moment, try setting the filename of a player to a *real* file URL: e.g. file:///Volumes/Primary/Users/mark/Desktop/ mask_with_a_really_really_really_long_filename.tiff This uses a QT function direct, by-passing the engine's present

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
So I think I've cracked it... since the htmltext of a field includes tags only for those parts of the text that do not inherit their attributes from their parent, it seems to be necessary to generate the appropriate tags for the rest of the text, as well. Not doing so produced peculiar

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jul 2, 2005, at 7:17 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: Hi all, As a work-around for this at the moment, try setting the filename of a player to a *real* file URL: e.g. file:///Volumes/Primary/Users/mark/Desktop/ mask_with_a_really_really_really_long_filename.tiff This uses a QT function

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Mark Waddingham wrote: As a work-around for this at the moment, try setting the filename of a player to a *real* file URL: e.g. file:///Volumes/Primary/Users/mark/Desktop/ mask_with_a_really_really_really_long_filename.tiff Thanks Mark: I'm still not clear on how to get this to

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Scott, Recently, Mark Waddingham wrote: As a work-around for this at the moment, try setting the filename of a player to a *real* file URL: e.g. file:///Volumes/Primary/Users/mark/Desktop/ mask_with_a_really_really_really_long_filename.tiff Thanks Mark: I'm still not clear on how to

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Waddingham
Hi Trevor, This just creates a QT Movie using the NewMovieFromDataRef call (with dataRefType URLDataHandlerSubType). Warmest Regards, Mark. On 2 Jul 2005, at 16:17, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jul 2, 2005, at 7:17 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: Hi all, As a work-around for this at the

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Waddingham
Hi Scott, If you do replace space with %20 in tURL then you should get the desired result. (i.e. don't urlEncode) Warmest Regards, Mark. On 2 Jul 2005, at 17:18, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Mark Waddingham wrote: As a work-around for this at the moment, try setting the filename of a

Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?

2005-07-02 Thread jeff reynolds fios
Hmm, i just got my new powerbook this week with tiger installed, but not classic (i think apple has been doing this for at least a year now since i have had folks say they didnt have classic and i would just have them load it from their system discs). the powerbook tiger system discs came with

Re: need windows engine...

2005-07-02 Thread Christian Langers
Please do not consider the last message... I just had problems connecting to the site because of my firewall ; so now that I know this, I'll be aware of sites disliking firewalls ;-) Christian Le 1 juil. 05 à 17:14, Christian Langers a écrit : Hi everybody, it seems that you can't

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Smith wrote: So I think I've cracked it... since the htmltext of a field includes tags only for those parts of the text that do not inherit their attributes from their parent, it seems to be necessary to generate the appropriate tags for the rest of the text, as well. Not doing so

Flashing the screen

2005-07-02 Thread Brent Anderson
Hello. In HyperCard there is a command for Flashing the screen (Inverting it x amount of times). I've gotten a script to work that creates a button with an inverted ink, and then shows it and hides it x amount of times. The only problem with it is that on many computers i've tried it on,

Re: Turning off the script editor's auto-format feature

2005-07-02 Thread Alex Tweedly
Mark Waddingham wrote: Hi Bob, If you go to the Script Editor pane of the Preferences panel you can disable the auto-format feature there. Disabling this option stops the Script Editor from attempting to auto- format your code as you type - including not doing auto-complete. However, there

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Claudi Cornaz
woow, I realy feel humble. I have been working on a text menu with bigger smaller as one of the features. I have been working on it quite a while. I have got it working but now as I see these bautifull and elegant solutions, I can start all over again. (putting a couple of checks in of

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Malte Brill
Hi, Mark, could you please test this script against yours? My machine is too slow to get a representative result. Sometimes yours is faster, sometimes mine. :-) on changeSize myChange put the htmlText of fld test into theHtml set the textSize of fld test to \ the effective

Re: Naming conventions [was: Food Fight]

2005-07-02 Thread Dennis Brown
Thank you all for your replies on your various style and naming conventions. I have studied them all and have come up with a style I think will work for me. I have started writing my personal style guide which I have appended below. I have not included many of the good style suggestions

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Dick Kriesel
On 7/2/05 12:59 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone beat 157ms on a block of 20,000 words with 2,000 of them styled? Applying the filter command might save some milliseconds. set the itemDelimiter to numToChar(28) repeat for each item i in tt if font size= is in i

Re: Naming conventions [was: Food Fight]

2005-07-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dennis Brown wrote: I would appreciate anyone taking a look at what I am planning and comment if you see something else that I might want to take into consideration before I code it into stone ;-) There's a huge body of xTalk code published over the years by authors who use most of what's

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Scott Rossi
I'm still not clear on how to get this to work. I've got a bunch of audio files with long names and spaces in the their names. I've tried setting the fileNames to straight filenames, URLencoded filenames, etc, using URL forms file: and binfile: and nothing seems to work. Am I missing

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Buster
Hi, When reducing textsize by the way of the htmltext there must be a little check added on the size itself. When font size=8 is reduced to font size=7 by the handlers, setting the htmltext will turn it into font size=25 (this goes back to rev 1.1.1) Greetings, Wouter On 02 Jul 2005,

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Buster
Also the sizeList returned by the getHSizes function should be sorted numeric descending for enlarging textsize and ascending for reducing textsize, lest not to lose some initial size differences of 1 greetings, Wouter on changeTextSize inc -- make the tags that will set text to the

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Buster
Damn typo On 03 Jul 2005, at 01:50, Buster wrote: if 8 is among the lines of sizeList and inc 0 then beep exit to top end if must be: if 8 is among the lines of sizeList and inc 0 then beep exit to top end if

Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?

2005-07-02 Thread Bill
The problem is nine to five reports under hypercard On 7/2/05 3:03 PM, jeff reynolds fios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, i just got my new powerbook this week with tiger installed, but not classic (i think apple has been doing this for at least a year now since i have had folks say they didnt

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
You win! 140 to 150 on the same machine that I got 157 on (actually, 150ish to 160ish, 157 was just the last time...) Mark On 2 Jul 2005, at 22:29, Malte Brill wrote: on changeSize myChange put the htmlText of fld test into theHtml set the textSize of fld test to \ the effective

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
Good points. I knew a check for limits would be necessary, but I hadn't considered the implications of the sizeList being unsorted. Mark On 3 Jul 2005, at 00:50, Buster wrote: Also the sizeList returned by the getHSizes function should be sorted numeric descending for enlarging textsize and

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Buster
One last remark, if you change a font face then the code breaks for that part as the font face tag precedes the size tag. for example: font face=Courier size=11 But you'll find a solution :-) Greetings, Wouter On 03 Jul 2005, at 02:43, Mark Smith wrote: Good points. I knew a check for

Re: Naming conventions [was: Food Fight]

2005-07-02 Thread Dennis Brown
Thank you Richard, Yes, I studied your well written guide before I decided what I wanted to do. The Hungarian and I could just not see eye-to-eye, and I was never that good with foreign languages --just a little Latin and Spanish;-) I read my code out loud in my head, and I could not get

Re: Turning off the script editor's auto-format feature

2005-07-02 Thread Bob Warren
Dear Alex, Works a treat! Thank you very much indeed. I shall be putting in a BZ enhancement request. Best, Bob - Original Message - From: Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Cc: Bob Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 02,

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
So this is my revised effort, which incorporates Wouters suggestions, and Dicks suggestion for using 'filter' in the getHSizes function. Remarkably this seems a little slower, at 190 to 200 ms. Mark on changeTextSize inc put the effective textSize of fld 1 into fSize put font size= quote

Tiger breaks hyperCard?

2005-07-02 Thread Alan Gayne
Hi all, I've been following this one from the sidelines. As I've mentioned in this forum on more than one occasion, I'm one of those whose business productivity is still totally dependent on the combination of Hypercard and 9 to 5 Reports. From all the discussion I've read here dealing

Re: Turning off the script editor's auto-format feature

2005-07-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/2/05 4:07 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: 7. Find the handleron tabKey 8. insert immediately after the header line for the handler the following two lines global gREVAutoFormat if not gREVAutoFormat then exit tabKey 9. Apply this change, save the stack Or alternately, use pass tabkey

Re: scripting challenge: Large/Smaller text size

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
And this is my final effort, for tonight, anyway. My earlier observation that it was necessary to create size tags for any unstyled text seems to be untrue, which saves a bit of work, and I think I've dealt with Wouters observation that it would all break if there were font face tags present.

9 to 5 Reports (was Tiger breaks hyperCard?)

2005-07-02 Thread SimPLsol
Alan, You are definitely not alone. There are many of us who continue to use HyperCard - primarily because of 9 to 5 Reports. I can't imagine a better, faster, easier business system builder. If it makes you feel better, 18 months ago I showed Jan what Richard Gaskin calls the 13 minute

Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?

2005-07-02 Thread Marty Knapp
More than that, I think there may very well be a substantial number of old Hypercard types who have quietly been waiting for a truly viable reporting scheme before making, or renewing their commitment to Runtime Revolution. Regards, Alan Gayne I'll second that. I used to do everything

Re: Naming conventions [was: Food Fight]

2005-07-02 Thread Ken Ray
On 7/2/05 4:59 PM, Dennis Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all for your replies on your various style and naming conventions. I have studied them all and have come up with a style I think will work for me. I have started writing my personal style guide which I have appended below.

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Stephen Barncard
generally it's always best to avoid spaces in filenamesespecially on the net. sqb Hi Scott, If you do replace space with %20 in tURL then you should get the desired result. (i.e. don't urlEncode) Warmest Regards, Mark. ___ use-revolution

Re: Player will not play long file names!

2005-07-02 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Stephen Barncard wrote: generally it's always best to avoid spaces in filenamesespecially on the net. Of course, but the issue here is to address the playback of *any* file with long filenames, regardless of their origin, and regardless of whether they have spaces (or other