(Re off-list) Yes, as in De Smet but we're not related :-)
Still need help with my problem, anyone?
William de Smet
Op 15-nov-2005, om 22:21 heeft Charles Hartman het volgende geschreven:
(off-list) Just curious -- de Smet, as in the De Smet C compiler
for DOS machines, a couple of decades
Hi William,
Welcome to this list :-)
You might be interested first in the basics about drag and drop with
Revolution.
Then you could have a look at some tutorials: How to manage drag and
drop, Images drag and drop, etc.
These tutorials and many others are available from Tutorials
Picker,
Hi Jim,
thank you for the hints.
Thomas, another technique you might try is locating and using the href =
³www.url.com² string.
This may not be suitable for your purpose, however.
It also does not explain the debugger anomaly you saw.
Yes, I am still waiting for an explanation of that one.
On Nov 16, 2005, at 1:39 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Well, if you open the message watcher and then press and release a
key you'll see something like this:
rawKeyDown
keyDown
rawKeyUp
keyUp
Each of those is a different system message and each carries as a
parameter the key you have pressed
Chris wrote:
function deleteDups pList
repeat with x=number of lines in pList down to 2
if line x of pList is line (x-1) of pList then delete line x of pList
end repeat
return pList
end deleteDups
then Eric Chatonet wrote ...
function deleteDups pList
local tLine,tStrippedList
On Nov 16, 2005, at 7:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris wrote:
function deleteDups pList
repeat with x=number of lines in pList down to 2
if line x of pList is line (x-1) of pList then delete line x of
pList
end repeat
return pList
end deleteDups
then Eric Chatonet wrote
Yes, you are getting into the world of customizing to purge all the
interface controls. Sometimes this is called 'screen-scraping'. There are
several web sites that use Flash or Java to prevent this, especially images
and graphics that have a copyright.
I have several custom solutions that
Charles Hartman wrote:
A keyUp message whose parameter is cmd-U is generated when I choose a
menu item whose purpose is to open a substack. So it's generated before
I have even opened the substack containing the card containing the
field whose script contains the keyUp handler. That
FYI, just had a little gotcha on a project.
Turns out a Mac OS9 app built with rev261 build 152 will not display a
jpeg that is a progressive scan jpeg. the progressive jpegs work fine
in osx and in classic os9. It appears it might be a quicktime problem.
Even though the classic and os9
Geoff Canyon wrote:
Bother -- it happened again. First we had repeat for each turning up
faster than the filter command. Now I've done a test on the
following, and it looks like the split command takes not quite twice
as long as repeat for each (when repeat for each is handled the
The best media player under linux for me is Mplayer (Mplayer can read
anything, and look like Xanim), but the most used engine is Xine (also a
really good media engine). The xine library is used by a lot of software
(Xine-ui, Amarok, Totem and more...).
But, forget for now the use of Runrev under
William-
Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 1:26:54 AM, you wrote:
(Re off-list) Yes, as in De Smet but we're not related :-)
Still need help with my problem, anyone?
William de Smet
Op 15-nov-2005, om 22:21 heeft Charles Hartman het volgende geschreven:
(off-list) Just curious -- de Smet,
Geoff Canyon wrote:
Bother -- it happened again. First we had repeat for each turning up
faster than the filter command. Now I've done a test on the following,
and it looks like the split command takes not quite twice as long as
repeat for each (when repeat for each is handled the
then J. Landman Gay wrote ...
function deleteDups pList
split pList by cr and numToChar(3)
return keys(pList)
end deleteDups
Geoff Canyon wrote ...
it looks like the split command takes not quite twice
as long as repeat for each ...
function deleteDupes pList -- does _not_ retain
Hi Preston,
Is there a way to break a long line in a script into shorter bits
so that Hscroll is not necessary?
Sure! Use the backslash cahracter - \
The engine will \
interpret this one \
as ONE line.
Regards
Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de
On 11/16/05 12:03 PM, Preston Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way to break a long line in a script into shorter bits so that
Hscroll is not necessary?
Yes; you can use the line continuation character \ between words, so long
as it is in a logical place (i.e. not in the middle of a
On Nov 16, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Now *that* takes me back. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for
the de Smet C compiler.
Absolutely. First affordable, reasonably complete programming system
on a widely available PC, if I remember correctly (which I probably
don't).
On 11/16/05 2:52 AM, Thomas Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In my case I am looking into Google results, which are pretty standardized,
and I don't want _all_ links, but only those to the found pages. And these
tend to be the first word in quotes after p class=g.
Agreed, in this case, I
I'm getting the split version as about 10% faster than 'repeat for each'
Rev 2.6.1
Mac PB G4 1.5Ghz
Mark
On 16 Nov 2005, at 17:44, Alex Tweedly wrote:
Geoff Canyon wrote:
Bother -- it happened again. First we had repeat for each turning
up faster than the filter command. Now I've done
Geoff
Not a bad job of abstraction and generalization, given the
limitations of both of those methodologies.
The two advantages you mention for Rev are essentially the same (if
you view command keys, e.g., as UI widgets that just don't have a
visible representation) and are the very
Hi all,
I would like only to point out the beauty of XTalks languages: you
have always many ways to do a thing.
Some can be verbose, difficult to read, not optimised but work.
Other are more elegant, shorter and/or faster.
In all cases, I would call that creativity :-)
That's one of the
Charles-
Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 10:29:05 AM, you wrote:
Absolutely. First affordable, reasonably complete programming system
on a widely available PC, if I remember correctly (which I probably
don't). It was good; it worked; you could do anything you could think
of with it, at the
On Nov 16, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
Geoff Canyon wrote:
Bother -- it happened again. First we had repeat for each turning
up faster than the filter command. Now I've done a test on the
following, and it looks like the split command takes not quite
twice as long as
On Nov 16, 2005, at 10:03 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Wow. That's good to know. Who woulda thunk? Our of curiosity, how
long is twice as long? Is it minimal, or something we have to
think about for long lists?
On a 1ghz powerbook I ran a check on a list with something like
30,000 entries,
I wonder if the kind or amount of data has an effect. The data I used
was a list of about 1 lines, each consisting of 7 items, from 4
to 12 characters each.
I also made sure that about 1 in 5 lines was duplicated.
One application of the deleteDups function with 'split' - 60 - 65 ms.
Hi
I am having the same problem as described in the thread below (from
the archives 12th May 2005)
However I can't find the solution.
In my case printing bordered fields on Windows loses the left border.
I have posted a simple example in the user spaces, Programming/
Printing Test
On the
'doh! -- I made a mistake -- see below:
On Nov 16, 2005, at 10:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Geoff. Actually, I am getting split as four times faster
than 'for each' (under v2.6.0 2.6.1)
On Nov 16, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
I'm getting the split version as about 10%
On Nov 16, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:
So *if* -- and that's a big if -- the *only* advantages of Rev
over AJAX is the UI componentry, then Rev has essentially little or
no advantage.
Based on what I've seen of AJAX apps, it's not a small advantage.
But I should have expanded on
Hi there,
I am trying to limit the input into a field.
Therefore I already used the returninField code but now I want to
block out the spacebarKey/spaceKey (don't know the English word)
because I don't want
the user to put a space after a word.
I've already looked at the RawKeyDown- and
Hi William,
Something as the following should do the trick:
on keyDown pKey
if charToNum(pKey) 32 then pass keydown
end keyDown
Have a look at charToNum and NumtoChar very useful functions in the
docs.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.
Le 16 nov. 05 à 23:04,
Hi Eric,
It worked! Thanks a lot!
I call it a day for now and will start working on it tomorrow.
Greetings from a rainy en stormy Holland!
William de Smet
Op 16-nov-2005, om 23:08 heeft Eric Chatonet het volgende geschreven:
Hi William,
Something as the following should do the trick:
on
Good job focusing this aspect of the discussion, Geoff.
On Nov 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
So if AJAX apps are secure but need local storage, and Rev apps
have local storage but need security, which will get what it needs
first?
My position: once a machine has been booted
On Nov 16, 2005, at 2:24 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
So, my bottom line on *[the local storage] * issue: AJAX apps have
a solid edge.
Agreed, but only once wireless becomes universally available. That's
going to be some time coming.
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Dan Shafer wrote:
So, my bottom line on *this * issue: AJAX apps have a solid edge.
Does that mean we'll see this thread move to the AJAX list?
;)
--
Richard Gaskin
Managing Editor, revJournal
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Flavel Steve wrote:
In my case printing bordered fields on Windows loses the left border.
I have posted a simple example in the user spaces, Programming/ Printing
Test
On the Mac the fields appear to print much thicker than 1 pixel.
I passed this question to Dan Friedman, a powerhouse Rev
Funny, we just talked about biometric stuff in class a couple of weeks
back.
Of course, one problem with things like thumb/face scans is that they can
be cut off your body (happened to a guy whose MB got carjacked and which
used biometrics for access).
As for your face, well, there's a doctor
Not sure I see a connection here, Geoff. If my data's on a server,
how I access it seems irrelevant to the question of its availability.
Of course, all of us await the day when wireless is ubiquitous. And
Google may make that happen just for grins.
Dan
On Nov 16, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Geoff
Dennis.
The tablet PC is just a side issue here. My original point with
respect to this issue was that a zero-pound computer was a
desirable objective. This means that my data and my applications live
on a server somewhere and I can access them from anywhere, whether I
have my
On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
Funny, we just talked about biometric stuff in class a couple of weeks
back.
Of course, one problem with things like thumb/face scans is that
they can
be cut off your body (happened to a guy whose MB got carjacked and
which
used biometrics
I can only shake my head.
Dan
On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
Funny, we just talked about biometric stuff in class a couple of weeks
back.
Of course, one problem with things like thumb/face scans is that
they can
be cut off your body (happened to a guy whose MB got carjacked
Richard
This thread can end here any time it wants. I stopped being proactive
on it a long time ago. I just keep answering questions people post.
:-)
Dan
On Nov 16, 2005, at 2:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Dan Shafer wrote:
So, my bottom line on *this * issue: AJAX apps have a solid
Dan Shafer wrote:
My original point with respect to this issue was that a zero-pound
computer was a desirable objective. This means that my data and
my applications live on a server somewhere and I can access them
from anywhere, whether I have my computer with me at the time
or not. I can go
Dan Shafer wrote:
The tablet PC is just a side issue here. My original point with
respect to this issue was that a zero-pound computer was a
desirable objective. This means that my data and my applications live
on a server somewhere and I can access them from anywhere, whether I
have
Are there many mTropolis folk now residing in the land
of Revolution?
If so, how is Revolution for behaviors, aliasing, and
messaging?
Other than the arcade engine, which seems to be a 3rd
party product, can Revolution handle multiple moving
objects or collision detection?
On Nov 16, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
I can only shake my head.
*So far* you can. (Tomorrw Aunt Zelda may shake it for you . . .)
Dan
On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
Funny, we just talked about biometric stuff in class a couple of
weeks
back.
Of course, one
On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Not sure I see a connection here, Geoff. If my data's on a server,
how I access it seems irrelevant to the question of its availability.
I have all of my phone contacts stored on my computer. Some of them
aren't on my cell phone (admittedly
First, there are several technologies that work around this problem.
I am working with a startup that has a USB device that handles this
issue nicely and I know of a couple of others. The problem is hardly
intractable.
Second, what happens when you lose your laptop or have it stolen?
Recently,Janus Jakaterina wrote:
Are there many mTropolis folk now residing in the land
of Revolution?
Not a refugee, more like a second cousin's nephew, twice removed, who
visited once in a while...
If so, how is Revolution for behaviors, aliasing, and
messaging?
Again, I'm no
Geoff...
On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
Further, even after universal wireless access, speed can be an
issue if large files are involved. As Richard pointed out,
downloading 150mb worth of Photoshop each time I want to use it
isn't a good idea even at 802.11g speeds.
Geoff Canyon wrote:
On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Not sure I see a connection here, Geoff. If my data's on a server,
how I access it seems irrelevant to the question of its availability.
I have all of my phone contacts stored on my computer. Some of them
aren't on my
Dan Shafer wrote:
First, there are several technologies that work around this problem.
I am working with a startup that has a USB device that handles this
issue nicely and I know of a couple of others. The problem is hardly
intractable.
I'll be glad to hear about them when they are
So I doubleclicked on the plugin (has a .rev extension) and windows asked me
what application I wanted to use. Since rev was not in the list, I clicked
browse to go to the rev 2.6 folder and clicked on revolution.exe.
I then clicked open and then OK. Oops. Windows XP did not recognise
Is it possible to have a progress bar while a file is being copied to
a server with the revCopyFile command. The files are fairly large and
take a minute or so to copy. The computer is actually copying the
file but to the user it appears as if the computer has locked up.
Is it possible to
I have a pulldown menu button on group shared across all cards in a
stack... the standard Edit.
Select All/A
the cmd symbol for the Mac appears as expected to the right of the
menu item in the pull down.
case Select All
if the selected fld is not empty then select text of the selected
I am trying to script the downloading of European patents from the
European Patent Office's server. They provide a sample URL to use for
that purpose, but instead of the patent, I instantly get a zero size
file. I've tried it with and without URLencode. However, scriptiing
with revGoURL works
On 17/11/2005, at 7:07 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Flavel Steve wrote:
In my case printing bordered fields on Windows loses the left border.
I have posted a simple example in the user spaces, Programming/
Printing Test
On the Mac the fields appear to print much thicker than 1 pixel.
I
On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Geoff...
On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
Further, even after universal wireless access, speed can be an
issue if large files are involved. As Richard pointed out,
downloading 150mb worth of Photoshop each time I want to use
On 11/16/05 7:03 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I doubleclicked on the plugin (has a .rev extension) and windows asked me
what application I wanted to use. Since rev was not in the list, I clicked
browse to go to the rev 2.6 folder and clicked on revolution.exe.
I then
Alex Tweedly wrote:
I'm not concerned about Internet wires and signals - I happily use
Internet banking over public wifi -
Wow! Can you tell me which Starbucks you'll be visiting soon? ;-)
I know of people who troll near public wifi spots just looking to grab
usernames and passwords. I
On 11/16/05 7:42 PM, Bruce A. Pokras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to script the downloading of European patents from the
European Patent Office's server. They provide a sample URL to use for
that purpose, but instead of the patent, I instantly get a zero size
file. I've tried it with
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
So I doubleclicked on the plugin (has a .rev extension) and windows asked me
what application I wanted to use. Since rev was not in the list, I clicked
browse to go to the rev 2.6 folder and clicked on revolution.exe.
I then clicked open and then OK. Oops. Windows XP
Alex Tweedly wrote:
This would apply (pretty well) to the case of applications, where the
Web-Photoshop would be (presumably) a set of modularized functions
which could be cached. I suspect that most users never need more than
about 50% of the features in Photoshop (maybe that should be 10%
I just installed Max OS X Tiger 10.4.3 and Revolution 2.6.1 on two
different machines. One is a PowerBook and the other a power Mac, both with
LCD displays.
There seems to be a problem with the legibility of text in Revolution. The
problem occurs throughout the program, including in the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
I'm back... finally!
Sorry if this is a repeat, but I can't seem to find it easily in the
archives. I'm returning to the world of Revolution with the latest
2.6.1.
I'm trying to use the database APIs to connect to a PostgreSQL database
on the
Chipp Walters wrote:
I'm not concerned about Internet wires and signals - I happily use
Internet banking over public wifi -
Wow! Can you tell me which Starbucks you'll be visiting soon? ;-)
None - but that's for other reasons :-)
I know of people who troll near public wifi spots just
Geoff Canyon wrote:
I'm thinking of an app as a thing that allows me to manipulate my data.
Obviously there are also apps that allow me to browse other people's
data. That's what Google Maps is. We'll know that Rev is being
challenged when there are successful Ajax apps that let me work
Ken Ray wrote:
On 11/16/05 7:03 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I doubleclicked on the plugin (has a .rev extension) and windows asked me
what application I wanted to use. Since rev was not in the list, I clicked
browse to go to the rev 2.6 folder and clicked on
On Nov 16, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
I have a pulldown menu button on group shared across all cards in a
stack... the standard Edit.
Select All/A
the cmd symbol for the Mac appears as expected to the right of the
menu item in the pull down.
case Select All
if the selected fld
Chipp Walters wrote:
Alex Tweedly wrote:
This would apply (pretty well) to the case of applications, where the
Web-Photoshop would be (presumably) a set of modularized functions
which could be cached. I suspect that most users never need more than
about 50% of the features in Photoshop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Depending on your definition, it might be Archie:
http://www.let.leidenuniv.nl/history/ivh/chap4.htm
The first web search engine seems to be a difficult one to track
down, however...
On Nov 16, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
I can't
On Nov 16, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
I don't believe that a Web-Photoshop would need to satisfy the
digital photography professional (mapping professionals aren't
using Google Maps !). I think to get a commercially successful web-
based photography editing app you need to
Lots of my colleagues tell me I'm insufficiently paranoid.
Maybe I am.
Dan
On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
I'm not concerned about Internet wires and signals - I happily use
Internet banking over public wifi - it's getting the data from the
keyboard to the wire, or
Geoff
On Nov 16, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
A better application would be able to save your work temporarily
without having to hit the server. It would also download additional
modules in the background whether you had an immediate need or not.
This is the sort of
Not sure, either, but I suspect it's Alta Vista.
Dan
On Nov 16, 2005, at 6:43 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
The first web search engine seems to be a difficult one to track
down, however...
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I think not.
Pricing models will change. We'll see pay-per-use, pay-per-month, pay-
per-file, pay-per-K and other similar models. When it's not necessary
for the manufacturer to package, distribute, sell, track, upgrade and
otherwise deal with thousands and thousands of copies of the
I don't think it helped the guy who's digit got cut off to steal his Benz,
though...
Judy
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Geoff Canyon wrote:
Under the heading of I kid you not: I once read on a web site
discussing biometric identification the following words (roughly).
Of course, you may be
RATS!!!
Make that whose
:-/
Judy
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Judy Perry wrote:
I don't think it helped the guy who's digit got cut off to steal his Benz,
though...
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Hello Revvers
Here's another release of this powerful media organizer...
In case you haven't seen it, screenshot, description and download are here:
http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=193
This release fixes:
- options not showing correctly (opaque backgrounds do not
I wish... (I found a blocking handler) but no... there is nothing in
the stack to block the key down msg. I'm also getting this in a
nother button with Save/S
Case Save
save this stack
break
which appears fine in the menu, works fine from the menu, but doing
cmd-S from the keyboard
I just installed Max OS X Tiger 10.4.3 and Revolution 2.6.1 on two
different machines. One is a PowerBook and the other a power Mac, both with
LCD displays.
There seems to be a problem with the legibility of text in Revolution. The
problem occurs throughout the program, including in the
I'm back... finally!
Hi Frank, good to hear from you again.
I'm trying to use the database APIs to connect to a PostgreSQL database
on the local machine and getting messages like:
could not connect to server: Can't assign requested address
Is the server running on host localhost
On 11/17/05, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wish... (I found a blocking handler) but no... there is nothing in
the stack to block the key down msg. I'm also getting this in a
nother button with Save/S
Case Save
save this stack
break
which appears fine in the menu, works
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