Re: Window position management

2009-04-17 Thread Terry Judd
Checkout the screenrects function in the dictionary. You should be able to use it to see if your window rect is within the working rect of any active monitor. If it isn't then I'd set the topleft of the window to a default value. Terry... On 18/04/09 3:29 PM, "Bill Vlahos" wrote: > My applicat

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Ault
Very cool, Phil. And now it could be time for the benchmark wizard (Richard) to establish a standard for the routine posting of speed comparisons. By that I mean CGI running on other host configurations doing exactly the same tasks. The results could be posted or submitted execution times

Window position management

2009-04-17 Thread Bill Vlahos
My application saves the position of the window the last time it was saved. This works great as long as the screen sizes and positions don't change. For example, if the laptop is connected to an external monitor and the window position is saved while it is on the external monitor but the ne

on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Davis
A quick on-rev example: Just to get started, I converted my 'globals' CGI script to an on-rev web page: Server Globals " end repeat put "version,processor,systemVersion,platform,environment" into tExtras replace comma with cr in tExtras repeat for

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
I just wanted to quickly pass on my thanks to the many people who've posted their thoughts. I've been busy so I didn't want people to think I was rude for not replying to their responses, I've only just now got 5 min to sit at a computer before I have to hit the grindstone again. Hopefully on Mond

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread -= JB =-
Thanks for the info Jacque. It really explains a lot I didn't know. -=>JB<=- On Apr 17, 2009, at 6:21 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I have found this whole subject so far over my head that I'm embarrassed. Can anyone sight some sort of reference that just "might" ge

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Jaqui, I don't want anyone to miss this. I had just spent about two weeks learning JavaScript for exactly the reasons you've just cited. (smile) Thank you for the timely, informative explanation. This does mean that on-rev has to be the hosting site for the webpages, however, does it n

Re: data grid code (color)

2009-04-17 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Apr 17, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Sadhu Nadesan wrote: To the fillindata handler, add some code to change the color depending on the contents of the cell. Like this on FillInData pData -- This message is sent when the Data Grid needs to populate -- this template with the column data. pData is t

Questions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Miller
A few questions about On-Rev: 1) Does On-Rev cover all the functionality in the Enterprise version... in particular, use of the SSL functions? 2) How would one send emails from within a Rev application? Is there a relay option or can Rev tap into an outgoing SMTP address for sending of email

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I have found this whole subject so far over my head that I'm embarrassed. Can anyone sight some sort of reference that just "might" get me off of my desktop. I am s uneducated on this topic. Simply stated, what's this for, why is it needed and what does it let us d

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Nicolas Cueto
About Dreamhost and On-Rev, in case someone's wavering between the two. Rev-cgi work is an important element of my business. And I have been relying for 2 - 3 years now on Dreamhost (and another webhost before that). However I have decided to switch to On-Rev. In part because of the price, but mo

Re: data grid code (color)

2009-04-17 Thread Sadhu Nadesan
Trevor Stack attached to bug 7972. Big mahalo, Sadhu Sadhu Nadesan wrote: Note that you may also double click on a cell and edit it directly, and again, the expected behavior is, if you type foo, it turns red. The refreshlist command is supposed to be called upon editing but I added this a

Re: data grid code (color)

2009-04-17 Thread Sadhu Nadesan
Note that you may also double click on a cell and edit it directly, and again, the expected behavior is, if you type foo, it turns red. The refreshlist command is supposed to be called upon editing but I added this as a separate button choice just in case, didn't help. Sadhu Nadesan wrote:

Re: data grid code (color)

2009-04-17 Thread Sadhu Nadesan
Trevor You said, let you know. Ok! I must be doing something wrong, it doesn't seem to work. On the other hand I did vary slightly from your instructions. I will file this as a bug report so I can include a sample stack and screen shots. Context The goal is to add a custom behavior that

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread stephen barncard
A billion people speaking esperanto? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/4/17 Joe Lewis Wilkins > Isn't English the craziest language in the world? You've just hit on one of > my pet peeves. In programming we call it "overloading" I think. In Engli

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Isn't English the craziest language in the world? You've just hit on one of my pet peeves. In programming we call it "overloading" I think. In English it is just plain stupid and something I wish we'd get away from some day. Fat chance. JW On Apr 17, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Le 17 avr. 09 à 21:56, Joe Lewis Wilkins a écrit : Hi all, I have found this whole subject so far over my head that I'm embarrassed. Can anyone sight some sort of reference that just "might" get me off of my desktop. I am s uneducated on this topic. Simply stated, what's this for, wh

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 17, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Obviously, I meant "cite" instead of "sight", though I thought it made sense at the time. You'd like someone to cite some information that would explain why catching sight of a site on on-rev would be a good thing? __

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Obviously, I meant "cite" instead of "sight", though I thought it made sense at the time. JW On Apr 17, 2009, at 1:04 PM, -= JB =- wrote: On Apr 17, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi all, I have found this whole subject so far over my head that I'm embarrassed. Can anyone s

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread -= JB =-
I have never had a website so it is all new to me. -=>JB<=- On Apr 17, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi all, I have found this whole subject so far over my head that I'm embarrassed. Can anyone sight some sort of reference that just "might" get me off of my desktop. I am s

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi all, I have found this whole subject so far over my head that I'm embarrassed. Can anyone sight some sort of reference that just "might" get me off of my desktop. I am s uneducated on this topic. Simply stated, what's this for, why is it needed and what does it let us do that we ca

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Kay, Here at Altuit (Chris and I), we have a bit of everything, JaquarPC (like DreamHost) for Rev cgi's, our own half rack of equipment at the data centere DataFoundry, and some other 'niche' server ISP's like Screencast.com. Sorry, we don't use MobileMe or iPhones, (prefer to use Google's own s

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread runrev260805
Hi, i was considering about extending my web package here at a german isp, just before the On-Rev offer jumped in. At the moment i am paying 130,--Euros for a 5GB Hosting Package with unlimited Subdomains, 1000 Domains (yearly domain fees not included),100 FTP-Accounts, 1000 Pop3 Accounts, 10

Re: data grid code (color)

2009-04-17 Thread Sadhu Nadesan
Wow, Trevor, you are the MAN! MAHALO! I will check it out right away. You should be able to get this working without too much trouble. I've added a lesson to the manual that discusses how you can quickly override the default column behavior for a data grid table. There are two samples at

Re: Wow! New CGIs

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: The new server package is very cool, esp. the live debugging, but FWIW you can do that script with the old CGI with just two lines, one in the CGI and one in a web page template: Ah, but with the new way there is nothing to merge; you don't need a

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-17 Thread David Bovill
2009/4/17 Jim Bufalini > Can you be more specific about this one command that kicks off the whole > shebang? Are you using the newButton, newStack, etc. messages that then do > an arbitrary getProp which triggers a sequence of copying the custom > properties? Or is it simpler than that? Thanks!

Re: Wow! New CGIs

2009-04-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: The new server package is very cool, esp. the live debugging, but FWIW you can do that script with the old CGI with just two lines, one in the CGI and one in a web page template: Ah, but with the new way there is nothing to merge; you don't need a template file at all.

RE: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Bufalini
John Miller wrote: > 1. They have invested a great deal of time creating PowerPoint > files > and don't want to redo them. >From your follow-on post, this was understood. > 2. We live in a powerPoint world. My users are often given a > PowerPoint file from their denomination or a gue

AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Phil, so obiously anywhere in the process of creating the standalone there is a bug or whatever. Until I find the solution for the problem my question #1 (see below) would be interesting for me as a workaround - beside of creating the standalone directly on the Mac. Thank you Tiemo > -Urspr

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Lynn Fredricks wrote: On the other hand, I think its very problematic that they will ever go out of their way to support Revolution, and they will never be the experts at Revolution that Runtime will. It should always be the case that the maker of a technology knows it best; I'd be concerned

Re: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-17 Thread Luis
Hiya, Yep, you need to point the GoDaddy servers to On-Rev. You can keep it registered with GoDaddy, and renew the Domain every year, but you don't need to host them there. Parking usually just points to the 'internal' default page (GoDaddy's or none, depending on the host). Cheers, Luis

Re: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-17 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 17, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Luis wrote: ??!!! You should be able to do the www.mysite.com without it becoming a sub-domain... I start off going there, but when it gets there it's now the on-rev url. Are you re-directing or changed the GoDaddy DNS servers to point to those at On-Rev?

Re: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-17 Thread Luis
Hiya, ??!!! You should be able to do the www.mysite.com without it becoming a sub-domain... Are you re-directing or changed the GoDaddy DNS servers to point to those at On-Rev? Cheers, Luis. On 17 Apr 2009, at 15:04, Colin Holgate wrote: Hopefully the non-Founders here will humor us a

[OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-17 Thread Colin Holgate
Hopefully the non-Founders here will humor us asking some questions about on-rev! I've had two domains forwarded to areas in my on-rev account (they were previously sat doing nothing at Go Daddy). The redirecting took a few hours to kick in, but now if I type the original url, of say www.my

Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Hi Tiemo, it looks like something is trashing the execute permissions between the Windows system and the Mac DMG. I always build my standalones on a Mac, so its not something I've come across. Presumably when Rev on Windows builds a Mac standalone, it gives the app it produces the equivale

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Luis
Hiya, On-Rev has PostgreSQL and MySQL: Will Valentina be up there too?... Cheers, Luis. On 17 Apr 2009, at 14:54, Lynn Fredricks wrote: I know that a few here recommend Dreamhost. At the moment the only deficiencies that I've noted from a quick scan is that on-Rev doesn't list QuickTime/Rea

RE: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> I know that a few here recommend Dreamhost. At the moment the > only deficiencies that I've noted from a quick scan is that > on-Rev doesn't list QuickTime/RealAudio support, but I get > the impression that such holes will be filled rapidly. > > I'm probably not the prime target for on-Rev, b

Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Luis
Hiya, This seems to have taken a roundabout route to sort out! I haven't had any such issues with Mac installs: Could the problem lie elsewhere? I'm wondering if, in the creation of the CD, the permissions have been mangled by whatever was used to create it? Opening a dmg and then draggin

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Bill Marriott
Kay, I know I'm not an unbiased source but I just wanted to point out that beyond your basic email and web space, (actually I think MobileMe is killing web pages) there is almost no comparison between MobileMe and on-Rev. I mean, I guess you could say that on-Rev is a MobileMe for Revolution us

Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > > noop same effect at that location > OK, lets go back to the beginning. Delete the app off your HD. If I remember you said it started out as a DMG on a CD, so when logged in as the Admin User drag the dmg file (copy) to the HD/Users/Sh

AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Phil, you hit it! Setting the x permissions with sudo, made it. Now I still have two questions: 1. When looking in the info panel - permission settings, I only can choose "read" or "read & write", no "read & write & execute". Can I set the excecute permission only in the terminal by sudo or am I

Re: AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Hi Tiemo, directories have a "d" at the start of their permissions, so that's ok. Some of the items inside your app folder are directories, and some are files. It does look like the execute permission for that second file you mention is missing for all users other than the owner - which mi

AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Phil, thank you for your extensive explanation. In opposite to your tutorial my files have two different permission setting: drwxrwxrwx (leading "d" ?) e.g. the bundle.app -rwxrw-rw- e.g. The execute of my app Because of the different number of chars to your advice I didn't executed the sudo co

[OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
I would like some opinions on the new on-Rev offer. This offer is very timely as I've been telling myself I 'need' to have a web presence. ('need' as in my wife needs a new dress or I need a new gadget). I guess I'm a bit like Marian in this regard, a bit of a neophyte when it comes to cgi, php et

AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello Richard, noop same effect at that location Thanks Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von R. Hillen > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 13:00 > An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.

AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Kay, no parental control is activated. Thanks Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Kay C Lan > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 12:38 > An: How to use Revolution > Betreff: Re

Re: On-Rev: Also a Founder

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > I'm not quite sure how many scots consider the Bay City Rollers part in > their musical heritage to be, um, significant...:) > Well they were significant to my wife. 'Woody, Woody, WOODY,Arrggh...' ;-) _

Re: On-Rev: Also a Founder

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Smith
I'm not quite sure how many scots consider the Bay City Rollers part in their musical heritage to be, um, significant...:) Mark Smith On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:55, Kay C Lan wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Mark Smith wrote: I'll be perhaps the first to announce an actual live(ish) si

Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:00 PM, R. Hillen wrote: > > Another idea: > put the app into the folder users/AllUsers (or such like that; in German: > Benutzer/ Für alle Benutzer) > > All Users can start the app from there;. > > This might also appear as: /Users/Shared If you Get Info on the Shared f

Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread R. Hillen
Hello Tiemo, Another idea: put the app into the folder users/AllUsers (or such like that; in German: Benutzer/ Für alle Benutzer) All Users can start the app from there;. Greetings Richard. -- From: "Tiemo Hollmann TB" Subject: AW: AW: How to make an app acces

Re: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Hi Tiemo, certain parts of the application have to have execute access too. I think somehow the permissions got messed up when the app was transferred to the Mac. The app itself is just a folder containing a number of other files, any one (or more) of which could have its permissions messe

Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > > > > Any other idea? > Are there any Parental Controls set? Go to: System Preferences => Accounts For the Account in question, select it, then select the Open Parental Controls... button. See if your app is listed. If my fading memory

AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Terry, yes I did without success Thanks Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Terry Judd > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 12:05 > An: How to use Revolution > Betreff: Re: AW:

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-17 Thread John Miller
Richmond, Point well taken. My program allows the user to show slideshows, create notes, etc, etc, etc. in a much simpler way than PowerPoint. Frustration with PowerPoint was the main reason I started writing my program in the first place, and I personally never use it. However, there

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-17 Thread Luis
Hiya, Looks like you're composing messages in HTML (using Word as the email editor?). Change it to Rich Text or Plain Text, that should remove the double- spacing. Cheers, Luis. On 16 Apr 2009, at 21:40, mfstuart wrote: Man I hate it when Outlook does this. Why does Outlook double sp

Re: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Terry Judd
Did you try selecting the "apply to enclosed items" item from the popup menu with the cog icon in the GetInfo window? Terry... On 17/04/09 7:57 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" wrote: > Hi Phil, > it says: permission denied, exited with exit code:1 > any idea, why the permission is denied if I have rea

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > So far entries are few (or maybe they are more abundant than I think, but > there is no obvious way to search for terms that have user comments added. > See enhancement request < > http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7926> .) > >

AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Phil, it says: permission denied, exited with exit code:1 any idea, why the permission is denied if I have read - write to everyone? Thanks Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag vo

Re: On-Rev: Also a Founder

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Mark Smith wrote: > I'll be perhaps the first to announce an actual live(ish) site on on-rev - > it's my 'real' job site - this is my cv (basically lists of people I've > worked with). > > The Bay City Rollers... When I digitized all our albums my wife asked m

Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Hi Tiemo, can you have a look at the console application (in your applications/ utilities folder) - and check for all messages or console messages to see if there's any information about why your rev app didn't start up? It might give a hint about what's happening. On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:16,

AW: How to create a UTF-8 XML file with rev?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Moin Malte, great help! I didn't knew, that I can create my own header... Thanks Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Malte Brill > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 11:30 > An: u

Re: How to create a UTF-8 XML file with rev?

2009-04-17 Thread Malte Brill
Moin Tiemo, this should get you started (mind linewraps): put encodeUtf8("encoding=" & quote & "UTF-8" & quote & "?>") into tData put revCreateXMLTree(tData, true, true, false) into tId function decodeUtf8 pContents local tContents put unidecode(uniencode(pContents,"UTF8"),"englis

Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson
This whole set of posts seems somehow redundant when the whole Power Point "thing" can be handled within Runtime Revolution itself. Making a presentation that is 'Power-Point-like' in Runtime Revolution is extremely easy; and once that's done nobody has to rely on an external program and how Runt

How to create a UTF-8 XML file with rev?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, I can't read/write german Umlaute in a XML file with rev. Trying to write, they are just ignored, trying to read I get a parsing error "input is no proper UTF-8" How can I create a XML file with a special character set, like UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1? When creating a XML file with revCreateXMLTr

AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permis

Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Hi Jacqueline, > there was no user "system", so I created it and set it to the owner of my > app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, > the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. > An

Re: Mac Virus - Reliable source

2009-04-17 Thread Sarah Reichelt
The only viruses/worms so far for Mac OS X have all been written by manufacturers of anti-virus software trying to demonstrate that their products are necessary. And even then, they all relied on people entering their user name & password when requested by some unknown piece of software, and none o

AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Jacqueline, there was no user "system", so I created it and set it to the owner of my app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von