Re: Python and Rev

2005-04-05 Thread Dan Shafer
ts Javascript, and one or two others besides AppleScript.) -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest

Re: Python and Rev

2005-04-05 Thread Dan Shafer
~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Python and Rev

2005-04-03 Thread Dan Shafer
p the unpaid cause of evangelizing Python more broadly, a move he felt was necessary before PythonCard could become real. ~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/

Re: Python and Rev

2005-04-03 Thread Dan Shafer
the Python GUI somewhere... ~~~~~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http

Re: BGs

2005-04-03 Thread Dan Shafer
bg-behavior? Intended, but not documented? Cheers, Wilhelm ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Python and Rev

2005-04-02 Thread Dan Shafer
com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Re[2]: set a prop after get url a stackfile

2005-04-01 Thread Dan Shafer
arts the stack, but i got an error trying to get the name, or set a prop to the *aAnonymousStack* Where is the obvious ? what's wrong ? ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWe

Re: About variable.

2005-03-31 Thread Dan Shafer
cannot be accomplished with a custom property? ~~~~~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list u

Re: About variable.

2005-03-31 Thread Dan Shafer
Good point, Thomas. I hadn't considered that. On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: The variable watcher works with globals and locals but not with custom props. ~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey,

Re: set a prop after get url a stackfile

2005-03-31 Thread Dan Shafer
mProp of this stack and save it on my disk... So, how can i get the Id of the stack or the name just after the get url ? i know i can do an OPEN IT, but i want to do this on the background, silently. any clue ? Regards, thierry ~~~~~~~~~~

Re: About variable.

2005-03-31 Thread Dan Shafer
avoid them altogether. On Mar 31, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: The whole thing is a bit error-prone, if you ask me. I avoid globals whenever I can, but sometimes you gotta use them. ~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey,

Re: Is there a tutorial for Property Inspector, Standalone window

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Shafer
Steve Why don't you post the stack on RevOnline? Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: About variable.

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Shafer
o you make a variable global so that you can use it though out the program? Thanks Kevin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWe

Re: Hints for porting apps from Mac to Win

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Shafer
r free. :) Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress 2.5 http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.

Re: Hints for porting apps from Mac to Win

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Shafer
Interesting piece, Klaus. Thanks for pointing it out. I wonder how much of what they recommend comes sort of automagically with RB as compared to what we get free with RR. Dan On Mar 30, 2005, at 1:03 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi friends, i just found an interesting article on the net, it is about r

Re: Question: anyone here for a vObject lib?

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Shafer
Andre. Count me in! ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runre

Re: [noob again]objects and properties and messages

2005-03-28 Thread Dan Shafer
MIkey Yep. Dan On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Mikey wrote: Can you have multiple-inheritance on a card, i.e. can one card have two different groups acting as backgrounds on it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists

Re: [noob again]objects and properties and messages

2005-03-27 Thread Dan Shafer
tons, but some receive different messages from others. ~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolutio

Re: Disappearing edit commands

2005-03-27 Thread Dan Shafer
Saturday, March 26, 2005, 10:08:45 AM, you wrote: DS> I've been tempted to Bugzilla this but I haven't yet found a reliable DS> way of reproducing it, so I haven't. Maybe you're onto something DS> repeatable here. BZ 2433 BZ 2648 ~~~~~~~

Re: Disappearing edit commands

2005-03-26 Thread Dan Shafer
ame file don't seem to suffer from this problem, and I don't appear to have any other odd side-effects. Has anyone seen anything like this? I can't guess what I'm doing wrong. Graham Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ~~~

Re: The paradigm of containers and self-referenced names

2005-03-25 Thread Dan Shafer
for you is one called Omnis. Omnis has been around forever. ~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing l

Re: Is there a tutorial for Property Inspector, Standalone window

2005-03-24 Thread Dan Shafer
Steve I have to say that's one of the best Rev overview/introductory things I've seen. I saw it before but never went all the way through it. This should get wider dissemination somehow. Dan On Mar 24, 2005, at 5:17 AM, steve messimer wrote: on 3/24/05 2:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PRO

Re: RevConWest - Standalones as topic

2005-03-24 Thread Dan Shafer
ike to see Standalones covered on the beg/int level have the opportunity to express our preferences. an eBook would of course be great. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.

Re: eBook and RevConWest

2005-03-24 Thread Dan Shafer
next week. ~~~~~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Is there a tutorial for Property Inspector, Standalone window and message box menubar?

2005-03-23 Thread Dan Shafer
Steve Thanks for some good ideas for new eBooks for me to write! And perhaps topics for our upcoming RevConWest conference. Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest On Mar 23, 2005, at 5:54 PM, [EMAIL PROT

Re: Posting Suggested Rev Features (was Re: The paradigm of containers....)

2005-03-23 Thread Dan Shafer
Mikey The Tao is an excellent idea. I'd prefer seeing it done as a Wiki or a discussion board rather than a blog, but the idea is sound. I hope I didn't discourage you with my previous remark. I like your enthusiasm! Dan On Mar 23, 2005, at 11:19 AM, Mikey wrote: Anybody want to take the op

Re: Unix engines -vs- Handheld Support

2005-03-23 Thread Dan Shafer
If you agree, go vote for Bug #1200. I just added my 5 and it's up to 94. Dan On Mar 23, 2005, at 10:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ability to write transcript apps for the handheld market would be truly monumental. ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Unix engines -vs- Handheld Support

2005-03-23 Thread Dan Shafer
Here, here! Dan On Mar 23, 2005, at 10:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ability to write transcript apps for the handheld market would be truly monumental. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/

Posting Suggested Rev Features (was Re: The paradigm of containers....)

2005-03-23 Thread Dan Shafer
On Mar 23, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Mikey wrote: Sign up for the feature request blog and post it. I hope we don't end up with a proliferation of places to post suggestions for Rev. RevZilla already allows us to post feature requests there and provides a feedback mechanism (voting) to allow the communi

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
Back in the 80's and 90's, when I was a strong advocate of OOP in general and Smalltalk in particular, I continually ran into the obstacle I came to think of as the IASFBSIDHTTT syndrome: I Am So Far Behind Schedule I Don't Have Time To Think. Whether dealing with in-house or out-house (never d

Re: Rev and Externals (Was Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software)

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
That sounds rational. Dan On Mar 22, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Mar 22, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: I'd like to second this notion start using external "fabulousexternal.dll" As long as we have the external interface we have now, I'd rather 'start u

Rev and Externals (Was Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software)

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
I'd like to second this notion and add that doing so is something I would not have expected to do even a few months ago. But I recently had a need to write an app for a client that called external libraries for encryption and a couple of other tasks. Ultimately, we decided we could not do the p

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
No doubt the *number* of VB refugees hanging out in RB-Land is an important number and would be even moreso to Rev which has, I suspect, *substantially* fewer users than RB. But a colleague who is a VB guru and HyperCard-knowledgeable and I spent about a month last year looking at what it would

Re: Global Madness

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
BZ'd as 2721 a few minute ago. Dan On Mar 22, 2005, at 2:38 PM, graham samuel wrote: Following this thread, started by Howard Bornstein and continued by Dan Shafer and others, it would appear that there is a bug in the RunRev IDE to do with the declaration and use of globals. I find

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: And, of course, there's no comparison when it comes to starting a new project from scratch. At least until you need to get out of the sandbox and craft an external. Mark, does RB support the creation of externals? I was under the impression it didn't

Re: Global Madness

2005-03-21 Thread Dan Shafer
This sounds like what I've confirmed. If so, it's a bug and needs to be reported. Dan On Mar 21, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Dr.John R.Vokey wrote: I have encountered this bug quite frequently, usually (but not always) when I *add* a new global to a list of existing globals. For example, if I have a se

Re: Stack saving clarification

2005-03-21 Thread Dan Shafer
Better yet, we could automate the list so that all questions go to a Rev CGI that generates a random number in the appropriate range and sends the answer back. Napoleon used to let any incoming messages from his field commanders sit unopened for three days, by which time most of the questions w

Re: error saving standalones in 2.5.1

2005-03-21 Thread Dan Shafer
e file names. Again, 2.2.1 built the standalone with no problem, but 2.5.1 immediately gives me the error dialog after I tell it where to save the standalone. I appreciate the help. Any other thoughts? From: Dan Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: March 14, 2005 11:52:55 PM EST To: How to

Re: Global Madness

2005-03-21 Thread Dan Shafer
Jacque Yeah, I believe you're right. But in his original script, he had a calculation assigning a value to the global and then putting the value into the msg box and the msg box wasn't showing the value, just the name of the global as if it had no idea what it was looking at. Dan On Mar 21,

Re: undoing an object delete

2005-03-21 Thread Dan Shafer
If you do one or more things like this and have not yet saved the stack, you can always choose "Revert to Saved..." from the File menu. Dan On Mar 21, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Somehow I've managed to select and delete several objects tonight accidentally. There appears to be no wa

Re: match not working

2005-03-21 Thread Dan Shafer
Paul There are a couple of potential problems here. First, "me" is a reserved Revolution keyword (see the Dictionary in the docs). Second, whatever you decide to replace "me" with needs to be a global variable or both handlers can't access its value. Dan On Mar 21, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Paul Sa

Re: Global Madness

2005-03-21 Thread Dan Shafer
Howard I spent a good bit of time testing this today, and I'm about as bewildered as you on some levels. That may or may not be comforting. LOL There definitely seems to be something wrong with globals in 2.5.1. I think you are onto something. NOt sure exactly what, though. I was able to r

It's Official! RevConWest Early Bird Registration Now Open - Save $70

2005-03-17 Thread Dan Shafer
. Check out our Web site at http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest/ for more details and to get the Early Bird Registration discount. See you in Monterey in June! Dan Shafer Co-Chair P.S. We also have a few sponsorship slots available at $200 each, including a free conference pass.

Re: mouseDown/mouseUp problem

2005-03-16 Thread Dan Shafer
iously does not need stretching!) On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/16/05 6:07 PM, James Spencer wrote: Interestingly, Dan Shafer, while being clear about the downside of using the polling functions (and citing your article Jacque), actually has code almost identical to mi

Re: Setting a property on a different card

2005-03-16 Thread Dan Shafer
The "start using" command doesn't actually open the stack, I think. Try "open invisible" the stack in addition to the "start using" and I suspect it'll work fine. Dan On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:56 AM, Len Morgan wrote: I'm having one additional problem with this little app when I start it up: As I

Re: Setting a property on a different card

2005-03-16 Thread Dan Shafer
Len What is empPhoto? A graphic object? is the fileName a custom property of that object? Then your syntax probably needs to be: set the fileName of graphic "empPhoto" of card 1 of stack "ID Card" to Your code is trying to set a custom property (set the fileName of) on a variable (empP

Re: Opening Sockets on localhost

2005-03-15 Thread Dan Shafer
Alex. I got it. IOW, opening a socket doesn't work unilaterally. The "server" has to have a listener on that port first. Right? I'm going to figure out this server stuff one of these days. Dan On Mar 15, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Dan Shafer wrote: If I open

Opening Sockets on localhost

2005-03-15 Thread Dan Shafer
If I open socket to "localhost" and look at the result, it's empty, which means the socket got created. If I subsequently use close socket "localhost", that works, too. If, before I close the socket I try to open it again, I get the expected error indicating the socket is already open. So far,

Re: Re Nintendo big boy Satoru Iwata has announced his firm's next generation console, codenamed "Revolution".

2005-03-15 Thread Dan Shafer
I know, I know. It was tongue-in-cheek. Satire doesn't do well online. Sigh Dan On Mar 15, 2005, at 9:04 AM, Mikey wrote: Using the same name doesn't mean anything since there isn't any potential confusion in the mind of the buyer nor is there any potential competition between the products. -- On t

Re: Poll: the sum(7,9)

2005-03-15 Thread Dan Shafer
I guess I'm one of those odd ducks who just memorized all this crap in school. It never occurs to me to DO anything to solve this kind of math problem. The answer just appears in my mind. Dan the Mysterious On Mar 15, 2005, at 6:38 AM, Jim Hurley wrote: What a fascinating question! I had to thin

Re: Re Nintendo big boy Satoru Iwata has announced his firm's next generation console, codenamed "Revolution".

2005-03-15 Thread Dan Shafer
Yeah. Sigh. OH, well, maybe some other scheme will work. Dan On Mar 15, 2005, at 6:43 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don I can't help thinking that the get-out will probably be the "codename" tag It'll probably be released under another tradename - just Rev's luck for it to then infringe someo

Re: error saving standalones in 2.5.1

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
We've seen one other thing cause this. Under some conditions, if you already have a folder of the name of the app in the directory where you're trying to build the new one, Rev will choke rather than overwrite. This isn't 100% repeatable and I suspect there's also something about the folder/app

Way, Way OT: How Revolution Can Make Billions

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
This just in, courtesy of the Guardian Online (a UK newspaper/blog): Nintendo big boy Satoru Iwata has announced his firm's next generation console, codenamed "Revolution". OK, so here's what RR do. They lie in the weeds until Ninetendo release this puppy and then sue their game paddles off, the

Re: MacOS standalone engine

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
Sounds like I was wrong. Or I should say I misspoke myself. I have not tried to download a new OS9 engine with 2.5.1. I just copied over the engine I already had. As far as I can tell, it works fine. Maybe the apps I'm making will explode in someone's face someday but so far, so good. So I gues

Re: Printing and fonts

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
On Mar 13, 2005, at 6:55 AM, Karen wrote: Hi, I'm trying to print tabular data from Revolution, and I'm having big problems. This is due to the font used to print - I don't seem to have any control over the font used, and therefore can't make it a font such as Courier which would have consistent

Re:

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
What happens when you try to download the standalone engine for OS9? Do you get an error? Does it appear to work but then the standalone isn't present on your system? FWIW, I'm building OS9 standalones with 2.5.1 but then I built them with 2.5 as well, so I don't know what could be going on he

Re: Problems placed grouped groups

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
Well, here's what I can report. Perhaps it'll help you track down the issue. On OS X 10.3.8 with Rev 2.5.1: When I create the main group baseControls and then break out some of its buttons as a separate, nested group whose backgroundbehavior is turned on (while that of the baseControls is not),

Re: OSX Menu Mystery

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
This is very strange, indeed. When I select a topic from the Help menu, Rev opens a new stack that briefly shows "copy of revdocs" in its title bar. As far as I can tell, only the menu stuff is different between it and the topics when selected from the docs window. Clearly a glitch. Dan On

Re: Way to Force Safari to load URL

2005-03-11 Thread Dan Shafer
Don't you hate when that happens? ;-) Dan On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All things outside my control. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: How many cards can you have to a stack?

2005-03-11 Thread Dan Shafer
Kevin There's no theoretical limit on the number of cards a stack can contain other than the usual constraint of how much memory your system has. I know there are Rev apps out there with tens of thousands of cards. That said, your question seems to be wanting to find out not the limit on ca

Re: Way to Force Safari to load URL

2005-03-11 Thread Dan Shafer
Just curious. Why would you want to force the user to use a browser other than the one s/he's set qs the default? I've seen one or two things that do that to me and I just stop using them. Dan On Mar 11, 2005, at 10:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case, however, I need to force Safari to

Re: Custom Property Tutorial?

2005-03-11 Thread Dan Shafer
decide if we'd want to buy it (counting spaces, of course) ;-) Wow, 30 characters would be like... ete the iTunes analogy, you co !!! On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Dan Shafer wrote: LOL Maybe we could set it up so you could buy a *random* page for 99 cents and then if it didn't answer your

Re: Custom Property Tutorial?

2005-03-11 Thread Dan Shafer
ke iTunes:-) Tom On Mar 10, 2005, at 7:34 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: On Mar 10, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: I also wrote an eBook on the subject which you can buy for $5 through the RunRev RevPress store online. <*)) >=< "Life should NOT be a journey to the gra

Re: Custom Property Tutorial?

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
Michael. For a variety of reasons which are probably not worth delving into here, Volume 2 will be released only as a series of independently published eBooks, at least for the foreseeable future. RR and I plan to release a new one every 3-5 weeks from now to the end of the year. Then we'll

Re: Help with other code

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
It's almost as you have it, Kevin! if txtName is "Kevin" then put pi * 12 into number else put pi * 20 into number end if If "txtName" is not a variable but rather the name of a field, then it's only slightly different: if field "txtName" is "Kevin" then put pi * 12 into number else put p

Re: Custom Property Tutorial?

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
one to two days to process and send me the download information. Same thing happened when I finally upgraded to Rev 2.5 yesterday. Still no serial number. Still no 2.5.1. I hate it when that happens. Mark On Mar 10, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: I also wrote an eBook on the subject which

Re: Preserving Rev Prefs Between Upgrades

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
Mark Good idea. I'll make a note of that. Dan On Mar 10, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Or you could always just copy the cRecentPaths from the old revPreferences.rev stack to the new one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.run

Re: Preserving Rev Prefs Between Upgrades

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
I am told that the recent stacks info is stored in the revpreferences.rev stack in the components | save directory. Dan On Mar 10, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dan Shafer wrote: Probably takes someone from RR to answer this, but Does anyone know if the format or content of the

Re: Custom Property Tutorial?

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
I also wrote an eBook on the subject which you can buy for $5 through the RunRev RevPress store online. Dan On Mar 10, 2005, at 2:28 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Wow. Thanks so much! Mark On Mar 10, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Swindell wrote: > Is there a particularly good custom p

Preserving Rev Prefs Between Upgrades

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
Probably takes someone from RR to answer this, but Does anyone know if the format or content of the prefs file changes between releases of RR? I get frustrated losing the recent stacks list between versions all the time. Dan ___ use-revolution mail

Re: Documentation

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
On reflection, it seems to me that the out-of-the-box experience for the newbie is much better with this new approach. It might be a good idea to make "Getting Started" the default and letting users change it once they're comfortable with all that is in the tutorials. Just a thought. I'm happy

Re: Documentation

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Shafer
Well, now for something completely differente! On OS X 10.3.8, Rev 2.5.1, the docs remember their last state just fine both from the toolbar and from the menu on my system. Well, actually, they remember what section of the docs is showing. Individual selections aren't retained, which is probably

Re: the backdrop hides revOnline viewer

2005-03-09 Thread Dan Shafer
Backdrop in general is just broken in Rev, has been for some time. I've reported it once and I think there are two or three bugs on it. This is just a variation on the theme, I suspect. Too bad. With cluttered desktops, the backdrop would be so useful. Dan On Mar 9, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Dick Kriese

Re: Printing (was: Re: XCMD's/XFCN's)

2005-03-09 Thread Dan Shafer
12 AM, Dan Shafer wrote: 9-5's stuff is definitely not compatible with RR. Also, it's not really true that reporting is non-existent in RR. I'm just finishing my next eBook(let) on printing and I had to overcome that same belief in working on it. While it's true that making som

Re: XCMD's/XFCN's

2005-03-09 Thread Dan Shafer
9-5's stuff is definitely not compatible with RR. Also, it's not really true that reporting is non-existent in RR. I'm just finishing my next eBook(let) on printing and I had to overcome that same belief in working on it. While it's true that making some sophisticated kinds of reports work in RR

Re: Save program information

2005-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Go to the RunRev site, click on store, then go to the RevPress page. It's Chapter 21 of Volume 2, near the bottom of the page. $5 Dan On Mar 8, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Paul Salyers wrote: At 08:54 PM 3/8/2005, you wrote: Use custom properties for this. Dan (There is an eBook on custom properties which.

Re: Save program information

2005-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Use custom properties for this. Dan (There is an eBook on custom properties which...ahem...I wrote if the online help isn't sufficient here.) On Mar 8, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Paul Salyers wrote: D\ear Rev Porgrammers, Is it possible to save program information where the user don't have access to it,

Re: Learning Revolution

2005-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Using a Wiki for documentation is a great idea. Someone from this list started one a while back for Rev but I don't seem to be able to find any info on it. I would be happy to host and manage such a service if we could get the docs into a form that would lend itself to a page-per-language-eleme

Re: New to the mailing list need a little help

2005-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Kevin Welcome to the list and to Revolution. There are actually quite a number of tutorial resources, although nobody (as far as I know, at least) has taken the trouble to pull them all together in one place for easy reference. I wrote a book called "Software at the Speed of Thought" which i

Re: Learning Revolution

2005-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
It might be a useful idea for people who know other languages -- RealBASIC, VB, C++, C#, Java, (JavaScript?) -- to come up with a sort of list of equivalents that would enable at least a sort of basic cross-language cross-reference into the Transcript docs. My guess is that the total number of

Re: cursed

2005-03-06 Thread Dan Shafer
When I begin to see this kind of instability, I find that removing the file revpreferences.rev from the compoents | save folder in the Rev app folder and restarting will generally fix it. At the advice of several veteran scriptheads here, I've taken to keeping a copy of that file on my desktop

Re: Monterey - June 24-25 -- any news?

2005-03-06 Thread Dan Shafer
Look for an announcement any day now. Dan On Mar 6, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Alan Gayne wrote: on 2/16/2005 Dan Shafer wrote: A group of us are trying to determine if there's enough interest to expand our Monterey-based Revolution developer gathering June 24-25 to encompass a second track for peopl

Re: [noob again]static text

2005-03-06 Thread Dan Shafer
I think the difference he was referring to was a point that I find is often confusing to newcomers to Revolution. Static text should logically be placed into a Label Field. If you create a Label Field, there's no obvious way to change its contents because it does not allow direct editing. You h

Re: altBrowser application

2005-03-06 Thread Dan Shafer
Check out InstallGadget from Sweat Technologies (http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstalLGadget) for a great way to package up this stuff for easy distribution and use. Dan On Feb 6, 2005, at 6:27 AM, Michael wrote: Derek So I have to deliver the altBrowser app with an installer or splash drop

Re: fieldTemplate Broken?

2005-03-05 Thread Dan Shafer
On Mar 5, 2005, at 4:10 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I bet it isn't broken. What I suspect is that when you drag from the tool palette, Rev IDE sets your field to the properties you have defined in preferences. I think that is as it should be. If you create a field from a script or the message bo

Re: fieldTemplate Broken?

2005-03-05 Thread Dan Shafer
Exactly the behavior I'm seeing. It's fine, just not clear or all that predictable without study. Dan On Mar 5, 2005, at 2:54 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote: On 3/5/05 2:21 PM, "Malte Brill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The docs state that the templateField is reset when the handler finishes executing... I

Re: fieldTemplate Broken?

2005-03-05 Thread Dan Shafer
On Mar 5, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Malte Brill wrote: The docs state that the templateField is reset when the handler finishes executing, so I assume it only works in a handler. I don't see that in my docs, although that clearly appears to be true. It does work from the message box but only if I use the

Re: fieldTemplate Broken?

2005-03-05 Thread Dan Shafer
Yeah, I typed it wrong here but not in my tests. I just re-confirmed that my original suspicions seem right. This is broken IF you create the new field by dragging it from the palette, but NOT if you create the new field programmatically. Dan On Mar 5, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Malte Brill wrote: Hi Da

Re: templateField Broken?

2005-03-05 Thread Dan Shafer
"create field." Check its margins. They are set to 10. But if you then create a new field by dragging from the palette, the margins reset to 8 and that same value becomes the value the margins in the templateField. Broken, no? On Mar 5, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote: On 3/5/05 12:

fieldTemplate Broken?

2005-03-05 Thread Dan Shafer
Is anyone successfully using the fieldTemplate property in Rev 2.5? I'm unable to get it to have any effect, but I could be misunderstanding its use. I create a new mainstack, and before I create any objects, I type in the message box, "set the margins of the fieldTemplate to 10". Then I chec

Re: Doc Error in Print Into?

2005-03-05 Thread Dan Shafer
so that I'd remember the order. Dave On Mar 4, 2005, at 11:07 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: It's late and my old eyes don't work as well as they once did, but it seems to me the docs on the print command incorrectly describe the four items of the comma-delimited list of numbers defining

Doc Error in Print Into?

2005-03-04 Thread Dan Shafer
It's late and my old eyes don't work as well as they once did, but it seems to me the docs on the print command incorrectly describe the four items of the comma-delimited list of numbers defining the rectangle on the page into which to print. The docs say the numbers are, in order, top, left, b

Re: revDatabase

2005-03-03 Thread Dan Shafer
Can't help with those questions, Sean. Dan On Mar 3, 2005, at 3:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so runrev 2.5 uses the updated mysql protocol.. does 2.5's revDatabase library work with 2.0/ 2.1 ? if so, where on the support website can one download it? I can report that on OS X 10.3.8 with Rev

Re: revDatabase

2005-03-03 Thread Dan Shafer
I can report that on OS X 10.3.8 with Rev 2.5 and the same MySQL as you're running, connections work just fine. Dan On Mar 3, 2005, at 7:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm trying to use the revDatabase library features and am connecting to a MySQL database, but am getting the error "Client does

Re: ANN: PlCard library and a sample "Pyramid" game

2005-03-01 Thread Dan Shafer
On Mar 1, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: If it happens with cards other than Kings on the Heap, please let me know. It does. It was intermittent for me but definitely occurred on various combinations of cards. Dan ___ use-revolution mailing lis

Re: Mail Card

2005-03-01 Thread Dan Shafer
The built-in revMail command may help if you don't need things like HTML formatting and attachments. If you do, then check out Shao Sean's most excellet libSMTP and libEmail (http://www.shaosean.tk). Dan On Mar 1, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Paul Salyers wrote: Dear ReuRev Programmers, Is it possible to c

Re: Guide to MySql

2005-03-01 Thread Dan Shafer
Given the way RR works with MySQL, if you just want to move beyond the built-in functions, any good MySQL tutorial should help you with other actions you want to perform. There are a BUNCH of such tutorials. Check out http://dev.mysql.com/doc/ . Dan On Mar 1, 2005, at 10:12 AM, David J.Lamp wr

Re: ANN: PlCard library and a sample "Pyramid" game

2005-03-01 Thread Dan Shafer
I had similar problems with clicks not always being picked up but I liked a lot about this. Dan On Mar 1, 2005, at 1:23 AM, Karen wrote: Alex, Other than the fact that I'm not very good at card games - this seems to work well on Mac OS X. The only problem I had was the selection of pairs to ma

Re: opencard message

2005-03-01 Thread Dan Shafer
Well, this seems to me like unexpected and illogical behavior. Implication is that openStack isn't sent when I switch stacks, either. If the stack is already open, that makes some sense. But unless the stack is open TO the card being addressed by the go command, shouldn't openCard still be sent

Re: Newbie Here

2005-02-28 Thread Dan Shafer
Michael. Welcome to the list and to the REvolution! With no more info than you've given us here, I suspect this is pretty easy. Look at the launch command in the REv docs. Dan On Feb 28, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Michael wrote: Hello I have just begun a project that requires a utility which performs

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