On Aug 20, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Ken Ray wrote:
Well, actually it's not as common to do that in Windows apps as in
Mac -
they usually don't have "Preferences" under the Edit menu; they have
"Options" under the Tools menu, or if it does have "Preferences",
it's not
under
Ken Ray wrote:
For myself, I usually split it down the middle with an "Options" item
under the Edit menu, set by script on startup to "Preferences" if it
opens on a Mac. I've mad many an email about a wide range of UI nuances
but never one on my prefs nomenclature, so unless it becomes a problem
> For myself, I usually split it down the middle with an "Options" item
> under the Edit menu, set by script on startup to "Preferences" if it
> opens on a Mac. I've mad many an email about a wide range of UI nuances
> but never one on my prefs nomenclature, so unless it becomes a problem
> I'm st
Ken Ray wrote:
But if you disable the entire menu, what happens to your Preferences
item on Win?
It disables along with the rest of the menu
Although the Win HIG says that when all of a menu's items are
unavailable to go ahead and disable the entire menu, in the case of the
Edit menu that's n
Richard-
Saturday, August 20, 2005, 10:02:13 AM, you wrote:
> On Windows, the HIG sez:
> If all items in a menu are disabled, disable its menu title.
> If you disable a menu item or its title, the user can still
> browse to it or choose it.
I just checked, and WinWord doesn't disabl
Ken-
Saturday, August 20, 2005, 9:55:24 AM, you wrote:
> Well, regardless of whether there are other apps that disable an entire menu
> (thanks, Richard, for the HIG post, btw), the fact is that Rev allows you to
> do it, and the results are inconsistent under OS X for the Edit menu (and
> probab
On 8/20/05 12:04 PM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Well, regardless of whether there are other apps that disable an entire menu
>> (thanks, Richard, for the HIG post, btw), the fact is that Rev allows you to
>> do it, and the results are inconsistent under OS X for the Edit menu (
Ken Ray wrote:
On 8/20/05 11:47 AM, "Mark Wieder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ken-
Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote:
If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item
AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit
menu (you
Richard Gaskin wrote:
James Spencer wrote:
MisterX is incorrect, this is not OS behavior. The placement
of the preferences item at the end of the Edit menu and then
moving it on OS X is pure Rev.
I think it's a matter of semantics: It's a Rev issue only because OS X
doesn't need to suppo
On 8/20/05 11:47 AM, "Mark Wieder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ken-
>
> Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote:
>
>> If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item
>> AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit
>> menu (you sho
Ken-
Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote:
> If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item
> AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit
> menu (you should leave the menu itself enabled, but individually disable the
> items yo
James Spencer wrote:
MisterX is incorrect, this is not OS behavior. The placement
of the preferences item at the end of the Edit menu and then
moving it on OS X is pure Rev.
I think it's a matter of semantics: It's a Rev issue only because OS X
doesn't need to support other operating system
On 8/20/05 11:31 AM, "James Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Now, this may just be a bug (I'll log it as such), but until
>>> it's fixed or documented, you should disable the individual
>>> items in the menu and not the menu itself.
>
> Ken, have you logged this yet so I can go vote for it
D] On Behalf Of Ken Ray
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 08:04
To: Use Revolution List
Subject: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu
Just passing along an interesting tidbit of information that
I just ran
into:
If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a
'Preferences
not be enabled...
So i guess a little global-OS HIG is in order ;)
just my two cents
Xav
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ray
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 08:04
> To: Use Revolution List
> Subject: B
Just passing along an interesting tidbit of information that I just ran
into:
If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item
AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit
menu (you should leave the menu itself enabled, but individually disab
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