Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Ping Pong!!! I LOVE PING PONG P * P Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Shari wrote: I listed myself on

Re: Creepy

2009-07-02 Thread Luis
On 1 Jul 2009, at 21:28, François Chaplais wrote: Every time somebody writes something on this list, it's indexed by google. It may be a good thing, provided you protect what's valuable to you. Sometimes I think of internet as a huge orgy of information, with little protection. You

Re: Creepy

2009-07-02 Thread Shari
You can read s much into that last sentence. Classic. That's a keeper! Cheers, Luis. I think therein lies the key. Protecting what's valuable. Because I have an online business, several actually, my email is widespread. I don't use different emails for different things because that

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Shari
Ping Pong!!! I LOVE PING PONG P * P I've got a fan! Woo hoo! And a face to go with the name :-) Now how did he find me? Dunno. I musta shown up on his potential buddy list since many of you are on mine. If anybody's looking you'll find me under Coxford. Now I dare you to find a

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Actually, I went through all of your different businesses and searched on them until I found your full name on one and searched that in FB. Nice trail through shareware, t-shirts, other t-shirts, still other t- shirts etc. until the Pong fan page. [OT] I also sell t-shirts online and write

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Lynn Fredricks
I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. I wouldn't lump these two together. But if your point is that corporations are just providing a service that we want, I can see your point. The problem I see

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson
This is a problem that revolves around 2 highly abstract concepts: 'Rights' and 'Property'; both of which have no reality in the physical sense at all. 'Rights' are even more nebulous than 'Property' so I'll TRY to show what is 'odd' about the concept of property first. For the sake of

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Randall Reetz
Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 10:14 AM Subject: RE: Creepy 2020 I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. I wouldn't lump these two together. But if your point

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Randall Reetz wrote: You have a choice. Dont sign up for special sales gimmicks. Or go ahead and sign up for the Normal Price cards (which the stores mislabel Customer Rewards cards), but just don't use any real info. If you apply at the counter they'll hand you the card on the spot; no

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Randall Reetz
Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 10:14 AM Subject: RE: Creepy 2020 I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. I wouldn't lump these two together. But if your point

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Judy Perry
Randall Reetz wrote: You have a choice. Dont sign up for special sales gimmicks. But sometimes the choice isn't explicit, or really a choice at all. The story I like to tell in my class is of how, when we were trying to have our children, we needed to use fertility services. As we needed

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Shari
Yeah, I'm out there :-) Got three websites just for the tshirts, but the designs are all the same. It's the fulfillment companies that are different. Got two websites for the software. Got other websites that just are. You with the evil CP? Or Z-Pod? Or other? Actually, I went through

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Randall Reetz
as it is that we simply couldnt take it if someone else got that discount and we didnt. -Original Message- From: Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020 Randall Reetz wrote: You have

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Jerry J
On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: While you're at it, it's helpful for privacy advocacy to fill out the application with a completely different demographic profile than yours, so the more people who do this the less useful the database becomes. I heard from a guy in

Re: Creepy

2009-07-02 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Shari sh...@gypsyware.com wrote: I always try to remember that whatever I post is actually public info. Whether it be here, Facebook, mySpace, my web pages, Google groups, wherever. That is an extremely sensible attitude to take. What you may not appreciate

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Jim Sims
On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Randall Reetz wrote: If the majority of consumers demanded fairness over gimmicks I want you all to lean out your window and yell 'I'm as mad as H*LL and I'm not going to take it any more! Couldn't resist, I was watching the movie 'Network' tonight. ;-)

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Jim- Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:54:39 PM, you wrote: I want you all to lean out your window and yell 'I'm as mad as H*LL and I'm not going to take it any more! I did that, but a couple of squirrels thought I was a nut... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Shari
Wow, I can't believe the life of the thread I started! Fascinating! And I wuz worried about posting something slightly OT... LOL! Shari -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Randall Reetz
That will be the day! -Original Message- From: Jim Sims s...@ezpzapps.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020 On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Randall Reetz wrote: If the majority of consumers demanded fairness over

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Randall Reetz
i said about our purchasing decisions mattering palestine in comparison to how powerful are our labor decisions. Productivity. -Original Message- From: Shari sh...@gypsyware.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-02 Thread Randall Reetz
@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 10:13 PM Subject: RE: Creepy 2020 I would hope that the economic and ecological and resource and energy catastrophe we are facing (living within) would give us all reason to pause and think deeply about which kind of humanity we want to be. We have seen what

Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Shari
I've been playing hookie for awhile, Richard Gaskin, yes I did answer you, did you receive? Here's what's creepy. I'm attempting to create a Facebook account (yes, this is revelant to the forum...) because someone turned me onto a really cool marketing thing you can do with it. I'm not set

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Shari wrote: David Bovill, for example. David Bovill pops up as a potential friend, someone I might know. How does it know that? Click on the name link, and you'll see a page of info, which will include a list of mutual friends. I think the system sees

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Jim Sims
On Jul 1, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Click on the name link, and you'll see a page of info, which will include a list of mutual friends. I think the system sees that you both have the same friends, and so maybe you know each other. You can also search for any name. Like now, I

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jul 1, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Jim Sims wrote: Hmmm... I typed in Colin Holgate and I see two guys - one is wearing white/pink bunny ears. Colin, we gotta talk about this behavior of yours :-P There are four matches, I'm the top one, not the Liverpool fan or the bunny ears guy. Or the

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Shari
. Yet it has this list of folks that I really do know or have communicated with in the past. Seriously creepy. Yet apparently socially acceptable. Big Brother must be loving this! (Slinks into my bunker peering out unto the world with a periscope...) I mean it's really cool in one way

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread dunbarx
Who's Colin? --Original Message-- From: Colin Holgate Sender: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com To: How to use Revolution ReplyTo: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Creepy Sent: Jul 1, 2009 11:02 AM On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Shari wrote: David Bovill, for example. David

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Shari- I believe Facebook by default uses your computer's address book. Anyone in your address book who already has a FB account comes up as a match and is a potential friend, anyone who doesn't already have an account is a target for an invitation. It's clever technology and invasive and

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Shari, I've been playing hookie for awhile, ... thanks to: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hookie I learned a new and obviously VERY amercian word today :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com

RE: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Randall Reetz
Isnt it just a little ironic that you want to use facebook to spam people you know, but you find something creepy about facebook doing the same thing to you? -Original Message- From: Shari sh...@gypsyware.com To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/1/2009 7:54 AM Subject: Creepy

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Jeff Reynolds
Sheri, it is using your address book. when i had to get into facebook for some clients work i registered under a nome de plume of buckaroo banzai (not sposta do that but i have never been caught by the facebook cops). unfortunately i screwed up one time in there fiddling with things and

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Shari wrote: I've been playing hookie for awhile, Richard Gaskin, yes I did answer you, did you receive? Yes I did, thank you. So nice to see you back here. Here's what's creepy. I'm attempting to create a Facebook account (yes, this is revelant to the forum...) because someone turned me

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: I have still found facebook of very little use. You haven't found the Scrabble app then? Seriously though, for professional contacts and the like there are other choices out there, such as LinkedIn.

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Andre Garzia
creepy, I am now, officially worried. :-/ Mark Wieder wrote: I believe Facebook by default uses your computer's address book. How does FaceBook obtain this information through the browser? Sounds like a very serious security exposure in browsers.  After all, if FaceBook can do it, any

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: Hello Folks, After a quick query on how facebook does its magic/voodoo, I come to the following blurbs: It looks like what is happening is that you’ve chosen the “opt-in” suggestion feature on Facebook. You might have blown past the checkbox or maybe not have noticed it

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jim Sims wrote: Hmmm... I typed in Colin Holgate and I see two guys - one is wearing white/pink bunny ears. Colin, we gotta talk about this behavior of yours :-P That's just how he looks... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

RE: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Comforting to know it's not a browser exploit digging into our hard drives, but it raises a question of the security decision-making at Yahoo, gMail, etc.: How can a web site like FaceBook dig into your address book at those other sites without requiring your passwords for those sites?

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread François Chaplais
Le 1 juil. 09 à 22:06, Lynn Fredricks a écrit : snip I believe at some point, you are asked if you want to find your friends on various e-services. I recall something about this, also other platforms using something similar, like NING. They've all set up sharing APIs that require

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
friends yet. I've not gotten that far. I've not entered any info, schools, groups, anything. Yet it has this list of folks that I really do know or have communicated with in the past. Seriously creepy. Yet apparently socially acceptable. Big Brother must be loving this! (Slinks into my

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Brian Yennie
Couldn't this be accounted for by the idea that your email address is in OTHER people's address books that have willingly shared them using the Friend Finder tool in Facebook? We seem to be assuming that Facebook is automagically digging into your address book, when it could just be

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Andre Garzia
\o/ We Got A Winner :D That Brian is a very good insight and makes everything even creepier! On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Brian Yenniebri...@qldlearning.com wrote: Couldn't this be accounted for by the idea that your email address is in OTHER people's address books that have willingly

Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread Lynn Fredricks
probably has... This creepy privacy invasion thread makes me think of the various ways Google snaps up information - by car and of course by satelite. Maybe in a few years we will see robot wars between the Google Car, Yahoo Refuse Digger and Facebook Roto Rooter - all fighting each other to get

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread Randall Reetz
customers? FaceBook et al are just providing to that same demand. Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends. Everyone wants the networking advantages afforded by a company that mines personal data. Nobody likes to know how that data is aquired when it comes to their own

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread stephen barncard
. How many people go to church or get their kids in a soccer league or enroll them in a private school specifically to gain access to the right group of potential customers? FaceBook et al are just providing to that same demand. Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread stephen barncard
to the right group of potential customers? FaceBook et al are just providing to that same demand. Yes it is creepy... how humans act towards their friends. Everyone wants the networking advantages afforded by a company that mines personal data. Nobody likes to know how that data is aquired when

RE: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread Randall Reetz
working. That's one answer. I should start a quantum social network where you tweet but are limited to one bit! 0 -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/1/2009 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Creepy

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread stephen barncard
to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/1/2009 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020 And what's your Facebook username? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/1 Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com I still think it ironic

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Kay C Lan
account. Again, it's amazing how few people were aware that at least some people saw this as inappropriate and kicked up enough stink to have the changes revoked, ie they were completely unaware that their ToCs had changed twice in the span of a couple of months. This isn't creepy, it's more

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Shari
Not finding this option. Not seeing anywhere to opt in or out. Pretty sure I would have seen a checkbox and not checked it, though, or unchecked it or whatever. Under Friends, there are several options to help you find your friends. One tells you to give your Email/Password (which I know

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Shari
Oh, the marketing tool that started it all was a virtual thing. I design tshirts and apparently people do these virtual gift giving things. Sort of like sending eCards and virtual flowers, now they are sending virtual gifts of all sorts. You can allow your tshirts and things to be given as

Re: Creepy 2020

2009-07-01 Thread Shari
I listed myself on Reunion.com eons ago, hoping to see all my old schoomates doing the same. They were starting to. Then the site changed not only their name, but the whole class listing thing, and became user unfriendly. Facebook seems to be doing the thing they used to do, where you can

Re: Creepy

2009-07-01 Thread Bernard Devlin
% of my classmates are on facebook. I spent time at multiple universities, and searching for people I recognized there was too tiresome to continue. But fundamentally, I wouldn't say the thing was creepy. It seems most people I know are avoiding facebook, or if they are on there they've suitablly