Sorry, sloppy, I meant tab delimited. I do tend to wrongly say csv and
automatically assume that tab delimited will be understood.
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csv? Am I missing something to do with relations?
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Aye, but we were talking about CSV, Comma Separated Values I think is what it
stands for.
Bob
On Sep 16, 2010, at 1:36 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
Filemaker tabbed delimited export converts returns to vertical tab
characters. You can still retain your returns.
Hello
I am a long time user of Rev but have always developed databases with FMPro
advanced. Time to try to make the move to Rev.
With big amounts of data and lots of tables joining etc, it all looks pretty
arcane to me.
Can anyone recommend any aids memoire or templates or anything to help
Hi Tim,
Hello
I am a long time user of Rev but have always developed databases with FMPro
advanced. Time to try to make the move to Rev.
With big amounts of data and lots of tables joining etc, it all looks pretty
arcane to me.
Can anyone recommend any aids memoire or templates
I am a long time user of Rev but have always developed databases with FMPro
advanced. Time to try to make the move to Rev.
With big amounts of data and lots of tables joining etc, it all looks pretty
arcane to me.
Can anyone recommend any aids memoire or templates or anything to help
On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:56 AM, Tim Lambert wrote:
Hello
I am a long time user of Rev but have always developed databases with FMPro
advanced. Time to try to make the move to Rev.
With big amounts of data and lots of tables joining etc, it all looks pretty
arcane to me.
Can anyone
:
Hello
I am a long time user of Rev but have always developed databases with FMPro
advanced. Time to try to make the move to Rev.
With big amounts of data and lots of tables joining etc, it all looks
pretty arcane to me.
Can anyone recommend any aids memoire or templates or anything to help
which really take
the headaches out of working with SQL.
Bob
On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Tim Lambert wrote:
Hello
I am a long time user of Rev but have always developed databases with FMPro
advanced. Time to try to make the move to Rev.
With big amounts of data and lots of tables joining
Not to dis anyone's product, but it should be plainly stated, unless things
have improved, that by Filemaker Databases, the developer means ONLY the
Filemaker Databases. If you have scripts, I do not think it imports those, and
last time I tried it, forms were also not imported. I'll say
Actually, it's even easier than that:
put /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -u username -p password --execute='show
databases' into tCmd
put shell(tCmd)
The only minor downside is to get the TRUE list, you need to clean up the
result a bit (the first line just says Database and the last line is
empty
:
I am not a MySQL expert but I have found that it is possible to join
different databases, each with various tables.
The trick is to use the database name to fully qualify the table and item
such as:
SELECT db1.table1.item1, db2.table2.item1 FROM db1.table1, db2.table2 WHERE
...
Here
Bob-
Monday, May 24, 2010, 9:00:59 PM, you wrote:
I am not a MySQL expert but I have found that it is possible to
join different databases, each with various tables.
Bob S.'s main issue here is that he's trying to join two different
*types* of databases, a MySQL database and a SQLite
This script would make promysql evaluate to mysqlshow - u nrl -pnrl1
On May 23, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone successfully used either open process or get shell() to list
the databases available on a machine.
From the command line I do the following and get
Which is why if I pull this off, there are people who may be interested in it.
Bob
On May 25, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
I think the only way around this is to issue two SQL
commands, one to MySQL, one to SQLite, then take the recordsets and
mangle them yourself, pretending that
successfully used either open process or get shell() to
list
the databases available on a machine.
From the command line I do the following and get the results I am
looking
for:
[...@localhost ~]$ mysqlshow -u nrl -p
Enter password:(I enter
On May 21, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
I'm wondering if the Relational aspect of Trevor's sqlYoga would be
able to do this, but again, I think I have to be working with two
tables in the same database for that to work. Trevor?
That is correct. SQL Yoga will only work with
If you put SHOW DATABASES; in a text file on the target
machine then you can execute the following statements
(watch for line breaks):
put /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -u username -ppassword
'/usr/local/ShowDatabases.txt' into myCommand
put shell(myCommand) into message box
That works
Gotcha. Teaches me to take my web guy's word for it. :-)
Bob
On May 21, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Mark Stuart wrote:
Hi Bob,
on Fri May 21 17:31:53 CDT 2010, Bob Sneidar wrote:
So now I have to think about using joins.
Just preface the table name that's in the other database with the
Hi Mark and all interested parties.
Perhaps I failed to mention that the two databases do not know about each
other. The SQL server doing the join has no access to the file based SQLite
database it is doing a join against. I am pretty sure this is impossible to do
like this.
It's okay though
I am not a MySQL expert but I have found that it is possible to join different
databases, each with various tables.
The trick is to use the database name to fully qualify the table and item such
as:
SELECT db1.table1.item1, db2.table2.item1 FROM db1.table1, db2.table2 WHERE
...
Here
Oh hello! You are saying you CAN do a join on a table that is not in
the same database?
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
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On May 22, 2010, at 18:35, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:
Mark-
Friday, May 21, 2010, 5:04:57 PM, you wrote:
SELECT
Bob-
Sunday, May 23, 2010, 12:04:03 PM, you wrote:
Oh hello! You are saying you CAN do a join on a table that is not in
the same database?
Well, I haven't tried it, bu Mark S. implied that it was possible with
two different aliases...
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Hello,
Has anyone successfully used either open process or get shell() to list
the databases available on a machine.
From the command line I do the following and get the results I am looking
for:
[...@localhost ~]$ mysqlshow -u nrl -p
Enter password
I did it on my 6k thousand table database...
It works fine for us.
I have something like
select Database1.* from DatabaseName1.Table1 as Database1,
DatabaseName2.Table2 ...
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:
Bob-
Sunday, May 23, 2010, 12:04:03 PM,
Mark-
Friday, May 21, 2010, 5:04:57 PM, you wrote:
SELECT cus.Customer_Number, cus.Customer_Name, ctyp.Customer_Type_Name
FROM database1.customers AS cus LEFT OUTER JOIN
database2.customer_types as ctyp ON cus.Customer_Type =
ctyp.Customer_Type_ID
Nice one - someone actually found a use for
Hi all.
Anyone have any idea how fast the queries to the On-Rev SQL databases are on
average? I was using a method where I was looking up a key from one query of
100 records at a time and querying a mySql database at my On-Rev site ONE
RECORD AT A TIME! I discovered that the queries were
Hi Bob,
on Fri May 21 17:31:53 CDT 2010, Bob Sneidar wrote:
So now I have to think about using joins.
Just preface the table name that's in the other database with the
database_alias_name.table_name:
SELECT cus.Customer_Number, cus.Customer_Name, ctyp.Customer_Type_Name
FROM
On 20 May 2010 21:52, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:
Twitter, Digg, Reddit, etc are indeed reaching the scalability limits
of their databases, and are moving into the NOSQL world of Cassandra,
Hadoop, CouchDB... but you need to up at the level of shoveling around
petabytes of data
Last night a new version of SQL Yoga was uploaded with support for
Valentina client and server connections. With the addition of
Valentina the list of supported databases is now:
* MySQL
* PostGreSQL
* SQL Server (ODBC)
* SQLite
* Valentina local and client
I recommend using the latest beta
Last night a new version of SQL Yoga was uploaded with
support for Valentina client and server connections. With the
addition of Valentina the list of supported databases is now:
* MySQL
* PostGreSQL
* SQL Server (ODBC)
* SQLite
* Valentina local and client
I recommend using
connections. With the
addition of Valentina the list of supported databases is now:
* MySQL
* PostGreSQL
* SQL Server (ODBC)
* SQLite
* Valentina local and client
I recommend using the latest beta of Valentina (4.3) if you
are working with Revolution and Valentina.
Nice! I
Hi Folks,
the files for my session are located at
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/invoice.zip
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As you can guess,
Going out on a limb here...
If I understand you correctly -- namely,
you're trying to build a stack that has
5000+ cards -- then I think the problem
is not Rev's limitations but rather the
design you're envisioning for your stack.
Perhaps if you described a bit more what
you want your stack to
On Jan 3, 2009, at 3:01:29 AM, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com
wrote:
From: Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com
Subject:Re: Large databases kaput?
Date: January 3, 2009 3:01:29 AM EST
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Going out on a limb here...
If I understand you
The issue is speed of execution for card based operations, like push/
pop, find and so on. Making stacks that have such a big amount of
cards is just not fast, even though things will work fine otherwise.
On 3 Jan 2009, at 18:05, dunbarx wrote:
Thanks for the reply, but not that. I heard on
dunbarx wrote:
Thanks for the reply, but not that. I heard on another thread that there
was a Rev issue with large stacks, 5000+ cards. I wanted feedback before
I made a test stack to check it out. Is it a matter of navigation,
finding stuff, open/close or what?
As Bjoernke mentioned, it's
J...
OK, got it. I will cross that bridge when I come to it.
Thanks,
Craig
On Jan 3, 2009, at 1:59:04 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
wrote:
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
Subject:Re: Large databases kaput?
Date: January 3, 2009 1:59:04 PM EST
To: How
What? Say it ain't so.
Do I understand that there is some practical limit to the number of
cards in a stack, that a speed hit is reached at a mere 5000? Where
was the warning on the label??? Before I make a stack and test
thisanyone?
Craig Newman
William,
GLX2 set the default folder, but sets it back again. Perhaps this
process was interrupted. I'll double check the code to bullet-proof it.
Thanks for the report and detective work.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Daniels Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.daniels-mara.com/glx2
On Mar
William,
I have just uploaded a new beta to our update server. You and all
other licensees can now update to b41. It has several small bug fixes
in it, including the restoration of the default folder under any and
all circumstances where GLX2 might need to set it.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
I just changed the subject
I just updated to GLX 2.1b40 and it did something (automatically) that I
realize now is very cool but which caused me some consternation. It made a
GLX2 Work Spaces folder in the My Revolution Studio folder and put an
empty copy of my SQLite database there. This caused
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:26 AM, william humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just changed the subject
I just updated to GLX 2.1b40 and it did something (automatically) that I
realize now is very cool but which caused me some consternation. It made a
GLX2 Work Spaces folder in the My
Can you tell me why specialFolderPath(Documents) has Documents in there?
Is it a way to set that type of folder path as opposed to one that is an
application for RunRev to use instead of a Document?
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Ignore that question please. I looked it up.
Bill
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 6:31 PM, william humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Can you tell me why specialFolderPath(Documents) has Documents in
there? Is it a way to set that type of folder path as opposed to one that is
an application for
sharing the info on how to use sqlite in memory databases from within
Revolution. Just tested in on my Rev, it works, so it may be useful for
you too. Say we have my.db database file. We wish to load it as an in
memory database to increase query performance. Here is the algorithm in SQL
From: -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's in your Rev directly if you are using it inside the IDE. :-)
My bad. It should read directory as in a folder. Open your Rev folder
(where Rev lives on your computer) and you'll find it there. You can open
the file using any text editor. The file
On Jun 1, 2007, at 2:07 AM, Scott Kane wrote:
It's in your Rev directly if you are using it inside the IDE. :-)
Scott
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the reply. If it is directly in Rev how do I look at
it, move it or remove it if I want to.
-=JB=-
On May 31, 2007, at 10:07 PM, -= JB =- wrote:
That is very nice.
Where exactly is the text file being saved right now?
thanks,
-=JB=-
Don't get me wrong. I know the handler to save the data
is in the script of the okay button and the handler script
is located in the
From: -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not able to find the actual text file after it's saved. Is
it saved as a file on my hard drive and I just can't find it or
is it somehow saved as a file inside the stack.
It's in your Rev directly if you are using it inside the IDE. :-)
Scott
I have read some about Valentina. They say it is fast
and can be used with
the Studio version of Rev. Oracle needs the higher
version of Rev.
I tried to read the license to learn about any royalties
I would need to pay
with Valentina but I really didn't find the
On Jun 1, 2007, at 3:44 AM, Scott Kane wrote:
From: -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's in your Rev directly if you are using it inside the IDE. :-)
My bad. It should read directory as in a folder. Open your Rev
folder (where Rev lives on your computer) and you'll find it there.
You can
On Jun 1, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
Unless you want to do something that violates the EULA, Valentina is
royalty
free. With the ADKs its pretty simple - you can develop and deploy
as many
as many apps as you like and ship as many units as you like.
With VDN, you can deploy
On Jun 1, 2007, at 12:07 AM, -= JB =- wrote:
That is very nice.
Where exactly is the text file being saved right now?
Thanks! It is saving the file in the same directory as the engine if
you use it in the Rev IDE. I use this program in a standalone form.
So it saves it in the
about DataBases - but how to select?
Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
Now I have to get into this very interesting thread as a rev novice too.
Storing data is one thing and the possibilities of rev are really
perfect.
But how do you get a good performance accesing the however stored datas
Well first of all, thanks yet again to Jacque for Find and Mark and Scroll
through - wonderful, thanks! Another of these things which are totally
obvious the minute you read them, and which you would never have found for
yourself.
Here is what I don't get though about Richard's approach.
the speed of accessing filemaker databases through RunRev
yet. Anyone done this?
On 5/31/07 3:34 AM, Peter Alcibiades [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Its the kind of thing which would take me all of an hour in Filemaker complete
with the csv import
using filemaker with the RunRev frontend
because filemaker has lots of stuff already done for me (much more than the
SQLitemanager) so using it in conjunction with RunRev might be a really
powerful solution.
EXCEPT
I haven't tested the speed of accessing filemaker databases through RunRev
for your own use, then you won't have to do that, of course,
because you'll probably just rescript your original. I have a lot of
personal databases written this way and they work fine, but I'm the only
one using them.
Find and Mark will evidently let you produce a scrollable set of cards very
On May 31, 2007, at 1:55 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Or you could store it in a text file and just read that in. In any
case, it's all the same approach; store the data as a single text
variable. With this method, you use offset() or lineoffset() to find
the record(s) you want, and use a
one
that is actual is there one that is practical. At what point doe
the find command get
too slow while searching a field or other things like sorting etc.
thanks,
-=JB=-
Revolution explains Databases and when it is more efficient to use
one in
Chapters 2 and 8 of the Revolution
On May 31, 2007, at 3:55 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Or you could store it in a text file and just read that in. In any
case, it's all the same approach; store the data as a single text
variable. With this method, you use offset() or lineoffset() to
find the record(s) you want, and use a
On May 31, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
Here is an example of this method. I use this to customer data and
registration information. Once can easily modify it to match their
needs.
www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/Key_Maker.rev.zip I removed some
code that makes our key system
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Richard,
Everything in computing involves tradeoffs. The question of HC's storage
vs. Rev's is about paging:
Indeed. Makes sense.
With unusual care it was possible to have an unusually low number of
corrupted stacks in HC, but I never met a
And think about it: since every Rev object has multiple property sets,
and a stack can have any number of cards, and cards can have groups,
etc. -- all this means you can have richly hierarchically-ordered data
sets using just custom properties. Hierarchies reflect much of the
world's
Now I have to get into this very interesting thread as a rev novice too.
Storing data is one thing and the possibilities of rev are really perfect.
But how do you get a good performance accesing the however stored datas in a
stack (cards / properties / properties loaded into arrays)?
Saying I
From: Peter Alcibiades [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guys, if this is such a great feature of Revolution - and I believe it,
the description is suggestive, promising, interesting - possibly someone
with
the good of the platform at heart should consider writing a tutorial and
example on it?
Dan
On 5/30/07, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read about this from time to time. As I know you'll be aware we have
this problem on Windows no matter what we do to the file or the file
type -but it's become a heck of a lot better since Windows 2000 and up.
Hi Scott,
Are you saying you
From: Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
G'day Chipp,
Are you saying you have Rev stack corruption problems on Windows?
One person had problems on Win 98 with one of my stacks. Repeatedly. I
took the same application to another machine (running Win 2K) and there was
not a single error.
.
Plus, there are a number of huge advantages of using real databases.
Concurrent users, real transaction management, stored procs, etc..
I strongly agree with Chipp - of course I have some interest in databases
with Valentina. An application development environment really has to be able
to do
From: Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I strongly agree with Chipp - of course I have some interest in databases
with Valentina. An application development environment really has to be
able
to do everything, yet it cannot be good at everything. By storing data in
a
database, you can leverage
On 30 May 2007, at 04:57, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Jesse,
In case you don't know. HyperCard was written by a genius in
assembly language. Here I'm going to make an assumption (with all
of the known dangers of doing so), Rev was written by a good
programmer; probably in a high or higher
Hey Dave,
My first comment when I started this thread was another great
controversy (smile). No question but what HC had its limitations.
Without CompileIt I would have been real discouraged back then; but
as the machines got faster, particularly with my externals written in
native
Scott, Joe, et al:
I believe Rob Cozens does something of the sought [partially load a
db stack] with Serendipity, but the question is whether it's really
worth while given it's all there already with a real database.
I've followed this thread this far wondering should I bother to
mention
Richard, et al:
Why bother with the overhead of storing the data in fields on cards,
when you can easily parse item and line chunks of a single block of
data so very efficiently?
This is basically how SDB handles non-binary data. The field
delimiter character for each record type is
Scott Kane wrote:
- Original Message -
Mac OS X. It was very fast loading the text file. But each record was
fairly small, so 40,000 of them wasn't as large as one might think. It
was measured in megs rather than gigs, but I don't remember exactly
how big it was.
The original data
On the other hand (and I'm not actually advocating it, since I've
never tried it), it would also be possible to build indexes of the
data that are kept in memory, while keeping the actual data in a
collection of many stack files which are then loaded and unloaded as
required.
As I say,
I'd go for SQLite or Valentina.
trying to make sense out of 1 million records, you need a good query
language, one that is able to do more than one operation with a
single query. Just imagine looping your indexes over and over again
trying to find the cross-references you're looking for.
with properties or
arrays?
With that much data, a SQL database is better. For smaller databases,
you can create one card per record and use the mark command to flag
the cards that match. For example:
mark cards by finding my string
or:
mark cards by finding whole my string in field 2
or:
mark
looks around Am I the only one to have just heard of SDB?
More infos? Links?
Cheers,
Luis.
On 30 May 2007, at 17:32, Rob Cozens wrote:
Scott, Joe, et al:
I believe Rob Cozens does something of the sought [partially load
a db stack] with Serendipity, but the question is whether it's
From: Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Rob,
I've followed this thread this far wondering should I bother to mention
SDB, considering the underwhelming response it has received from the
RunRun community?
No disrespect meant by my reference to Serendipity.
Scott Andre might offer some
From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think that pretty much requires an external database. If you dump that
much data into a stack I don't think you'll like the results.
Indeed and I would never dream, normally, of anything less. But I was
curious to see how far I could push the
From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd go for SQLite or Valentina.
trying to make sense out of 1 million records, you need a good query
language, one that is able to do more than one operation with a single
query. Just imagine looping your indexes over and over again trying to
find the
From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
G'day Jacqueline,
With that much data, a SQL database is better. For smaller databases, you
can create one card per record and use the mark command to flag the
cards that match. For example:
snip helpfule pseudo code
Then you loop through the marked
I have never used Valentina or the other database
mentioned but here is a question if I decide to use
one I make in Revolution.
One user said he was working with one million or
more files so lets use that as an example. If I were
to make a text file with one million card ids in item
one and the
From: -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One user said he was working with one million or more files so lets use
that as an example. If I were to make a text file with one million card
ids in item
one and the user name in item two and then put it into a variable and
perform a search for the id and
Rob-
Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 9:32:51 AM, you wrote:
I've followed this thread this far wondering should I bother to
mention SDB, considering the underwhelming response it has received
from the RunRun community?
Interesting. From my end of things, I think the underwhelming
response is
Hi,
does anyone know if after I create an in-RAM database using
sqlite3 memory
and then do for any stored database file:
ATTACH db_file AS db_ram
does it also load the attached database into RAM or continues to query the
attached database as it is (e.g. disk file) ? Any experiences with
Hi all,
Guess I'm going to start up another great controversy. Again I'm
hearkening back to my HC days. When it was first released, one of its
main claims to fame was the question as to whether or not it WAS a
database. Certainly, it had all of the attributes and features of
one. Even
Joe,
check http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/lexicon it is a
lexicon for those interested in Hinduism. It not only performs
searches but it has cross-references between words. For example
search for karma or vedas, if you want to see a quick query just
search for a this will give
From: Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guess I'm going to start up another great controversy.
I shouldn't think. This is a very interesting discussion AFA I am concerned
at any rate.
Again I'm hearkening back to my HC days. When it was first released, one
of its main claims to fame
From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
check http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/lexicon it is a
Very impressive!
Scott Kane
CD Too - Voice Overs Artist Original Game and Royalty Free Multi-Media
Music
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C
Andre,
Thanks, you've confirmed my suspicions. So most of us don't really
need to be concerned with other DBs.
Joe Wilkins
On May 29, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Joe,
check http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/lexicon it is a
lexicon for those interested in Hinduism. It
Guess I'm going to start up another great controversy. Again I'm
hearkening back to my HC days. When it was first released, one of its
main claims to fame was the question as to whether or not it WAS a
database. Certainly, it had all of the attributes and features of
one. Even with SE30s as a
the
operations, build the response and shut everything down. This all
happens very quickly.
Coding databases in Rev is not like doing SQL databases at all, you
need to code your software in smart ways, like build indexes and
really think about your search and cross-reference routines
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