Newbie Questions!

2002-11-11 Thread Igor Couto
Hail, Oh Revolution Masters! I am afraid I am a Revolution newbie, and as such, will ask questions that may annoy the more experienced users in the list. Nevertheless, after furiously jumping from one place to another in the documentation, I decided that it might be a better use of my time if I

Newbie questions

2003-10-18 Thread Paul Malloy
I am a former HyperCard, SuperCard and OMO user who has just purchased Revolution. Good to see many familiar names on this list. I am trying to port some OMO stacks to Revolution by pasting the scripts into objects in Rev. I am running into a very basic problem: None of my scripts execute. For exa

Newbie questions

2005-08-17 Thread AbilityForms
Hi Everyone I'm in the middle of converting several HyperCard stacks into DreamCard. Question 1: Since I often go from stack to stack gathering and distributing data I need to close and save each stack when I'm finished with it. HyperCard does this automatically as we know. How is this done in

Newbie questions

2005-09-24 Thread AbilityForms
Hi Everyone, Here are probably some dumb questions. 1. Why is there a fatter border around one of the fields in my previous HC stack? How do I eliminate the extra width? 2. What does focus border and focusable mean? Joe, Orlando Florida ___ use-revo

Newbie Questions

2004-01-10 Thread Jim Carwardine
Short List of Questions... 1. Is there a search function that searches all the repositories of Rev. knowledge... especially the list archives over all years? And, BTW, what are all the repositories of knowledge? 2. If I have a button that is grouped so that it behaves like a bg btn in HC can I ha

newbie questions/

2006-02-18 Thread benjamin pastrana
hi! I downloaded Revolution to test some things I want to accomplish for a game. I am having trouble trying to find how to apply a command to make a picture (or quicktime movie) Draggable. Example of what I want to accomplish: I have a 3d Barrel picture: I want to be able to: -Move the barrel

Newbie Questions

2007-11-04 Thread Jonathan Scott
Hi, My name is Jonathan Scott. I was using SuperCard for quite a while. Hypercard before that. I recently moved over to RunRev. I'm sorry to bug you with simple stuff, but I don't seem to be able to find the answers on my own. I have a stack that is supposed to write out text files. W

More Newbie questions

2005-02-20 Thread Len Morgan
I seem to have screwed my self into a problem. I was trying to create a function that was part of the OpenStack call that made a connection to a database, run a "SELECT *..." call, then position to the first record ready to go. Well, I made a typo on one of the lines but now I can't change anyt

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-11 Thread Rob Cozens
TASK: I am trying to build a stack that will allow the user to enter some statistical data (text), and then produce some graphs to illustrate it (made of groups of graphic objects). My idea is that the user should be able to save their data - and associated graphics - as a cross-platform docume

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
> How do I save more than one type of data (text and graphics) to a > single file? You could use a stack file as your document. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.0: Publish any database on any site __

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-11 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 5:39 PM -0800 11/10/02, Igor Couto wrote: >Hail, Oh Revolution Masters! Greetings, Igor. ;-) >I am afraid I am a Revolution newbie, and as such, will ask questions >that may annoy the more experienced users in the list. Nevertheless, >after furiously jumping from one place to another in the do

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-11 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
Dear Rob, On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 11:27 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: How long does it take to plot the graphs once you have the data? Unless it is a lengthy process, you can simplify your design by simply storing the text and plotting the graphs on demand. Thank you for the suggestion! T

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-11 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
Dear Richard, Many thanks for your posting! On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 11:46 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: How do I save more than one type of data (text and graphics) to a single file? You could use a stack file as your document. So, I assume that what you are saying is that it is pos

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-11 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
Dear Jeanne, Thank you for your suggestion! On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 10:16 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: 1) How do I save more than one type of data (text and graphics) to a single file? The simplest way of doing this is to save the data in a stack file. Stack files can save all t

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: > 1) Is the stack that functions as the 'document' (the one I saved all > the relevant information TO) cross-platform? ie, would a Mac and a > Windows user be able to exchange stacks? Yes. Revolution stack files will open on all supported platforms without modificat

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-12 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 9:04 PM -0800 11/11/02, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: >On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 10:16 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: >>> 1) How do I save more than one type of data (text and graphics) to a >>> single file? >> >> The simplest way of doing this is to save the data in a stack file. > >1)

Re: Newbie Questions!

2002-11-12 Thread Rob Cozens
My problem really is being able to specify more than one element to a file, and then being able to read them back. Igor, As others have suggested, a stack is probably easier to use for this purpose than a data file. One can simply install the images in the stack and place the text in a field

Database newbie questions

2003-08-02 Thread John R. Brauer
Hello all, I am a newbie. I am working on a project which will require that I store data in a database (a separate record for each client, and about six hundred fields per record). Each time it is used, it will need to generate a new record for that client (it is a program that will administer and

Re: Newbie questions

2003-10-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Malloy wrote: > I am a former HyperCard, SuperCard and OMO user who has just purchased > Revolution. Good to see many familiar names on this list. > > I am trying to port some OMO stacks to Revolution by pasting the scripts > into objects in Rev. I am running into a very basic problem: None

Re: Newbie questions

2003-10-29 Thread Sarah
Hi Paul, Some-one else has already told you that "name" is a reserved word, so that it what breaks this script. An easy way to find out if you have used any reserved words is to "Colorize" your scripts. From the Script Editor, turn on "Live Colorization" in the View menu, of choose "Colorize"

Re: Newbie questions

2003-10-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
On Sunday, October 19, 2003, at 07:54 am, Paul Malloy wrote: > I am running into a very basic problem: None of my > scripts execute. For example, I have this script in card 2 > > on closecard > global name, age, education, occupation, gender, handedness, marital > put fld "name" into name An

Re: Newbie questions

2003-10-30 Thread Scott Rossi
On 10/29/03 8:48 PM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am running into a very basic problem: None of my >> scripts execute. For example, I have this script in card 2 >> >> on closecard >> global name, age, education, occupation, gender, handedness, marital >> put fld "name" int

Re: Newbie questions

2003-10-30 Thread erik hansen
> > on closecard > > global name, age, education, occupation,... try: global gName, n12 # etc. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/

Re: Newbie questions

2003-10-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: > On 10/29/03 8:48 PM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I am running into a very basic problem: None of my >>> scripts execute. For example, I have this script in card 2 >>> >>> on closecard >>> global name, age, education, occupation, gender, handedness, mari

Re: Newbie questions

2003-10-30 Thread Scott Rossi
> A single character is a single character. It could be anything that helps > prevent name-space conflicts. The "g" has an additional value as a > mnemonic; "g" means "global", and it lets you use other chars for other > types (e.g., "p" for "parameter"). You're right of course. See below. >

Re: Newbie questions

2003-10-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: > I misread the problem in the original post as having to do with > object references, not variable references. I was referring to the use of > underscores for object names (ie field _name vs field "name"). I do, in > fact, use the same naming conventions for variables. I mis

Re: Newbie questions

2005-08-17 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/17/05 2:10 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I'm in the middle of converting several HyperCard stacks into DreamCard. > > Question 1: > Since I often go from stack to stack gathering and distributing data I need > to close and save each stack when I'm fini

Re: Newbie questions

2005-08-17 Thread Timothy Miller
Hi Everyone I'm in the middle of converting several HyperCard stacks into DreamCard. Question 1: Since I often go from stack to stack gathering and distributing data I need to close and save each stack when I'm finished with it. HyperCard does this automatically as we know. How is this done in R

Re: Newbie questions

2005-09-24 Thread Mark Smith
1. That's probably just a normal default translation from HC to rev thing. You can change it in the property inspector for the field in question, or by script from the message box : set the borderWidth of fld "myField" to (number of pixels). 2. Focus, in this case indicates a selection ie.

Re: Newbie Questions

2004-01-10 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
On Jan 10, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote: Short List of Questions... 2. If I have a button that is grouped so that it behaves like a bg btn in HC can I have a different icon for each card in that button? I know in HC I can’t because the button icon is shared in the background, but ho

Re: Newbie Questions

2004-01-10 Thread James . Cass
ositories of knowledge? That would be God. ;-P - James Jim Carwardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/10/04 11:29 AM Please respond to How to use Revolution To: Revolution Listserve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Newbie Q

Re: Newbie Questions

2004-01-10 Thread Jim Lyons
On Jan 10, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote: Short List of Questions... 1. Is there a search function that searches all the repositories of Rev. knowledge... especially the list archives over all years? And, BTW, what are all the repositories of knowledge? I don't know ALL the repositori

Re: newbie questions/

2006-02-19 Thread Klaus Major
Hello Benjamin, hi! please let me welcome you to the list first :-) I downloaded Revolution to test some things I want to accomplish for a game. I am having trouble trying to find how to apply a command to make a picture (or quicktime movie) Draggable. Example of what I want to accomplish:

revlet newbie questions

2010-02-19 Thread Chris Sheffield
So I'm just now playing with revlets, and was hoping to be able to convert an existing desktop app to a revlet, just as kind of a proof of concept thing. So far I'm striking out. Running on a Mac, OS X 10.6.2, it's totally locking up Firefox and, while Safari doesn't lock up, the revlet doesn't

Re: Newbie Questions

2007-11-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Jonathan, Nice to see you here. Welcome to the Rev community. I am pretty sure that something is wrong with the path. Note that Rev paths don't use colons but slashes to delimit the components of the path. Do you see similar problems if you run the following script? on foo ask file "

Re: Newbie Questions

2007-11-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Welcome to the Revolution, Jonathan :-) And please don;t apologize for asking questions. I think a lot of people are too nervous to ask, so it is great when someone like you actually does. The information will be of use to a lot more than just you. > My name is Jonathan Scott. I was using

Re: Newbie Questions

2007-11-04 Thread Jim Ault
On 11/4/07 2:58 PM, "Jonathan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a stack that is supposed to write out text files. When I use > the normal file writing procedure (as shown below): > > open file thisfile for write > write thisstuff to file thisfile > close file thisfile > --hint: it migh

Re: Newbie Questions

2007-11-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jim Ault wrote: --URL file: only works for 'text' files, not images or other binary code files. I misread this for a moment before I understood what Jim meant. In case anyone else did the same thing, the above means that the URL "file" specification only works on text files. It doesn't me

Re: More Newbie questions

2005-02-20 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Len Morgan wrote: > Any advise would be appreciated (like how do I stop the OpenStack from > running in the first place? You can try executing the following in your message box. When prompted for the file, choose your stack. answer file "Locate stack:";set lockMessages to true;open

Re: More Newbie questions

2005-02-20 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Len, Any advise would be appreciated (like how do I stop the OpenStack from running in the first place? Two options: 1. Choose "suppress messages" from the IDE menus before opening the stack 2. Don't open the stack;but go to the message box and type "edit the script of stack [whatever] Rob

Re: Database newbie questions

2003-08-02 Thread Pierre Sahores
John R. Brauer wrote: Hello all, I am a newbie. I am working on a project which will require that I store data in a database (a separate record for each client, and about six hundred fields per record). Each time it is used, it will need to generate a new record for that client (it is a program

Re: Database newbie questions

2003-08-02 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- "John R. Brauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > I am a newbie. I am working on a project which will > require that I > store data in a database (a separate record for each > client, and about > six hundred fields per record). Each time it is > used, it will need to > generate a

Re: Database newbie questions

2003-08-02 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Dr. Brauer, a) which database would you suggest (I guess that Oracle, MySQL and Valentina are my options)? Developer Release 1 of SDB (Serendipity Database--Binary) is currently being tested by the Revolution IPC group . I expect to release DR-

Re: revlet newbie questions

2010-02-19 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > So I'm just now playing with revlets, and was hoping to be able to convert an > existing desktop app to a revlet, just as kind of a proof of concept thing. > So far I'm striking out. Running on a Mac, OS X 10.6.2, it's totally locking >

Re: revlet newbie questions

2010-02-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
Chris Sheffield wrote: So I'm wondering, is there a good, single source out there somewhere that lists what works and what doesn't work in a revlet? Things to avoid in revlets? I don't think there is a comprehensive reference yet, since the revlet engine is still being revised and some limitat

Several newbie questions & a documentation request

2003-10-17 Thread Ian Wood
Hi Folks, I am new to the list, having received Revolution 1.1.1 on a cover Cd and immediately realised that I can now make my AppleScript project into a cross-platform app! Revolution 1.1.1 on OS X 10.2.1, 1GB RAM. An application that opens a QTVR cubic pano, takes start and end points then

Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-21 Thread John Ballard
Hi All, I've been developing courseware with ToolBook for about 7 years, but I'm a brand new user to Runtime Revolution. I'm excited about the cross-platform possiblities. I'm ultimatly looking for a second development tool and possibly something to switch to for full-time development. If anyone

Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-04-30 Thread Judy Perry
DunbarX recently lamented the lack of stupid new user questions. As I privately communicated to hi & Jacque, while not a new user, I certainly have stupid questions in abundance. So here's mine on custom properties & arrays: I d/l Mark's stack on the subject. Here are my comments (no critici

Dumb Newbie Questions -- 3 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I set up a stack with a button "Holder" which contains 3 custom properties: dataDish custardPie sexyMessage containing, respectively, tab-delimited data, a number, and a string. All very straightforward . . . However, when I tried this: on mouseUp put the customProperties of btn "Holder" int

Dumb Newbie Questions -- 4 of N

2009-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
As we are now getting postings about 'shell access' (err, something about turtles?), and 'termite eradicators' (err, debuggers?), as well as discussions about how the programming language/IDE we all "know and love" (err, xTalk, RevTalk, Transcript, Revolution) came to be the way it is; how long

RE: Several newbie questions & a documentation request

2003-10-18 Thread Ken Ray
> 1) I am running an AppleScript to open an image sequence in QT Pro. > The applescript is stored in a field, a replace is done on the > variables and the "do theScript as AppleScript". So far, so good. > Except that Classic launches as the AppleScript tries to > launch the OS > 9 version

RE: Several newbie questions & a documentation request

2003-10-18 Thread Ken Ray
One other thing, Ian... there's a bunch of tips on using Rev at my site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm that might help out in your development. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___

Re: Several newbie questions & a documentation request

2003-10-18 Thread Ian Wood
Thanks for the replies, but I got rid of most of the weird behaviour by making a new stack and copying across all the necessary buttons and fields. As this was my first stack after the Hello World there were a lot of half-existing groups and so on that hadn't been deleted properly. On Saturday

Re: Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-21 Thread Ken Ray
> I've been developing courseware with ToolBook for about 7 years, but I'm a > brand new user to Runtime Revolution. Welcome, Jim! > I'm excited about the cross-platform possiblities. I'm ultimatly looking for > a second development tool and possibly something to switch to for full-time > develo

Re: Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-22 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
John, I am new to Revolution but spent years developing in SuperCard. I started using REV in late October and have creates a marketing CD for a third party that is cross platform in just two months. I can say that REV seems solid on both WIN and Mac as far as system differences go. The only go

Re: Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-22 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
OH and the most important thing I left out is: This is the best list I have ever been apart of !!! The people are helpful and suggestive and just generally good people. If you have problems come here and you WILL find an answer or a direction to look in. Everyone here has helped me with my tran

Re: Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-22 Thread Mark Brownell
On Sunday, December 21, 2003, at 08:55 PM, Ken Ray wrote: 2. Is there any way to dock all of the toolbars in the development environment to make it more of a one-window application. I"m trying the program out in Windows, but will also try it out in OSX soon. I understand I can edit the developm

Re: Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-22 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 12/22/03 6:56 AM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote: P.S. if you don't make the group first before you make new cards then it won't be included on each new card after the fact. I just right a button to repeat for number of cards and paste. Then before I hit the button I do a copy of the grouped ob

Re: Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-22 Thread Ken Ray
>> You can't really "dock" windows in Rev; you can open and close >> palettes and move them around, but they don't lock together or "snap" >> to a location. > > I do it all the time: > >go stack "tools" >put the topLeft of stack "noteBook" into vamp >add 29 to item 2 of vamp >set

Re: Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-22 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Jac, I was talking about after a whole bunch of cards was already created and then you decide you need a background group. If Place group places an existing group to an already existing card then that would be what I want. However can that be scripted for say 30 or 40 cards? Tom P.S. I didn't

Re: Newbie Questions from a ToolBook Developer

2003-12-23 Thread John Ballard
Hi All, Wow, what a response! Thanks to everyone who answered my questions. You gave me some valuable and time-saving information. I see this is a great community of developers and I'm looking forward to learning and being a part of it. Sincerely, John Ballard __

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-04-30 Thread DunbarX
Good to know I am not alone. I made a stack with 11,000 cards. Navigating via script or msg is fast ("go cd 7500"). Navigating with Cmd-3 (or its menu equal) is horrible. I wonder why. Finding is not bad, not nearly as fast as HC, but not bad. Saving takes a few seconds. Sorting takes a little tim

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-04-30 Thread DunbarX
I am comparing simple operations on identical 11,000 card stacks in both HC and rev. I am using a 450 Mhz G4 for HC, OS 9.1, and a 2GHz G5 for rev, OS 10,4. Not so different, really, and I am giving HC a 6X handicap for the hardware. Just a guess. HC runs about 2.5 times faster with simple ope

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-04-30 Thread Scott Morrow
Hello Judy, There has to be some threshold at which Mark's approach makes sense and underneath that it simply doesn't matter. What is that threshold and why does it matter at that point? I agree. However, trying to define that threshold isn't probably ever going to be satisfying. I

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-04-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
I suppose I am tromping on old ground, but here goes. I remember being in Hypercard and running into the slowness that started creeping in with anything over 2000 cards. Back then the moniker was a card equaled a record in a "database". People who then tried to use Hypercard as a "Database"

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-04-30 Thread Judy Perry
Hi Scott, Thanks for the reply! I think this is one of those instructional difficulties that is hard to nail down outside of generalities and theory. Using custom props to store data is usually not one of the concepts I would expect most folks new to Revolution to pick up early on. Learni

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-04-30 Thread J. Landman Gay
Judy Perry wrote: I'm trying to figure out what new (to me) things are worth spending time on this summer (worth = useful for me) and which are not. I honestly do not see myself doing 32,000 card stacks anytime soon as my little things are just educational aids for my kids, so I thought I'd p

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-04-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Morrow wrote: > Why do I need another way? Until my prior knowledge included > experience with and understanding of particular difficulties > (the NEED to separate data from layout) I wasn't REALLY ready > to learn about it other than in an abstraction or as an exercise. I think you've hit

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Judy, maybe the issue with custom properties is that they are so simple? There is almost nothing there to get your head around. The thing I found completely blocking at first was, I kept asking myself, if they are properties, they must be properties of something, so what is it they are propert

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Judy Perry wrote: > I'm trying to figure out what new (to me) things are worth spending time > on this summer (worth = useful for me) and which are not. I honestly do > not see myself doing 32,000 card stacks anytime soon as my little things > are just educational aids for my kids, so I

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Peter Alcibiades < palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Judy, maybe the issue with custom properties is that they are so simple? > There is almost nothing there to get your head around. > Right! > > The way to think of them is just fields. Except. Exce

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Kay C Lan wrote: >> Scott Rossi wrote: >> >> You can think of custom properties as global variables that are tied to >> objects, instead of variables that float around in space. >> > > With all due respect gentlemen, why is that for something so simple and > already understood, an ana

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades
It would be nice to hear from Judy again. Did any of these explanations help? And did you try using a custom property, and did it work? Peter -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/rev-dictionary-blocked-tp23316218p23337886.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list ar

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Maybe I'm having conceptual problems, but a custom property looks awfully like another container (such as a variable or a field) rather than a property as such. I realise that a custom property can be used as a data-source more rapidly than a field because it doesn't come with all the 'trappings'

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Richmond, I may be all wet, but it seems to me that this custom Property thing is just Rev's way of saying you are able to provide a pointer/handle to some address in memory where all of the stuff you've put into it may be accessed, and do so rather easily. I said I didn't like the name,

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Yes. You just refer to your custom property as 'the xxx of yyy' where xxx is the name you gave it, and yyy is either the stack or the card it is a property of. The script in which you do this can be associated with any object or event in the stack. For instance, say you had a POS system and you

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Mark Swindell
While "property" might not be the best name, I can't think of a name better suited, since custom properties are persistent across sessions, proprietary to an object, and the syntax is consistent with other object properties... the height, the width, the visible, the cpWhatEver of button

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Judy Perry
Thank you, Scott. Your explanation looks helpful :-) Judy On Fri, 1 May 2009, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Judy Perry wrote: I'm trying to figure out what new (to me) things are worth spending time on this summer (worth = useful for me) and which are not. I honestly do not see myself doing

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Judy Perry
Peter, I had to run some errands and am now attending upon the termite eradicator ;-) Which is to say I'm still reading these mails. Many kind thanks to all who have responded! Judy On Fri, 1 May 2009, Peter Alcibiades wrote: It would be nice to hear from Judy again. Did any of these ex

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Maybe my problem comes from taking the computer programming metaphor a bit too literally. I think of properties as things that inhere in objects, some being necessary and some being contingent; rather like people with functioning lungs (necessary) and ideas (contingent). Now it seems that wi

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Presumably the 'termite eradicator' is the secret code name for the alpha version of the new debugger being built into Runtime Revolution 4. :) Judy Perry wrote: Peter, I had to run some errands and am now attending upon the termite eradicator ;-) Which is to say I'm still reading these mai

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Judy Perry
Thank you. I needed that. ;-) Judy On Fri, 1 May 2009, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Presumably the 'termite eradicator' is the secret code name for the alpha version of the new debugger being built into Runtime Revolution 4. :) ___ use-revolution mai

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 2 of N

2009-05-01 Thread DunbarX
I remember when a button in HC was first (v.2.2) embellished into a container. This seemed silly, though the possibilities were intriguing. You might say that a new custom property, theContainerNess, was now built into this familiar object, and it could hold text. So you then could "get btn my

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 2 of N

2009-05-01 Thread DunbarX
I remember when a button in HC was first (v.2.2) embellished into a container. This seemed silly, though the possibilities were intriguing. You might say that a new custom property, theContainerNess, was now built into this familiar object, and it could hold text. So you then could "get btn my

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Judy Perry
On Fri, 1 May 2009, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Of course, once one abandons the standard metaphor and views custom properties as pointers to drawers in a filing cabinet (or, even, maybe, the drawers themselves) everything becomes clearer. The term 'custom property' is misleading; it is like a

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Mark Swindell wrote: > While "property" might not be the best name, I can't think of a name better > suited, since custom properties are persistent across sessions, > proprietary to an object, and the syntax is consistent with other object > properties... the he

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Judy Perry
Kay, You assume I know more than I do ;-) And you know what happens when you assume... :-P Still, points well taken. Judy On Sat, 2 May 2009, Kay C Lan wrote: You can't see the raw htmlText of a field, but if you can get your head around how that magic works you should find custom proper

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Kay- Friday, May 1, 2009, 6:25:38 PM, you wrote: > My analogy for custom properties is they are like properties that you don't > know exist. Exactly. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-01 Thread Scott Morrow
On May 1, 2009, at 1:50 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: You can think of custom properties as global variables that are tied to objects, instead of variables that float around in space. That's exactly how I think of them. Just containers. Except variables float around in space (local space or g

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson
It may be, of course, that the containers, cards and flip-book metaphor have had their day. It is obvious in this discussion that those of us who have hung on to it too literally have found ourselves confused. However, unless we (the loyal, installed user base) and Runtime Revolution (the peopl

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 3 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Thierry
Le 2 mai 09 à 10:51, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : However, when I tried this: on mouseUp put the customProperties of btn "Holder" into fld "fPROPS" end mouseUp nothing happened, and, confusingly, I had to do this instead: customProperties gives you an array ! on mouseUp put the customKe

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richmond Mathewson wrote: The ONLY problem is that something named 'property' is something that can be contained rather than be a property: so, either, somebody has to cook up a new name for 'custom properties' (err . . . 'custom thingy' . . . err . . . come on, somebody can do better than tha

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 3 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Peter Alcibiades
is simple. Also, if all your CPs are properties of the stack they are all in one place and will not wander off and get lost which makes life simpler. Peter -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Dumb-Newbie-Questions3-of-N-tp23344258p23348175.html Sent from the Revolution

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 3 of N

2009-05-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richmond Mathewson wrote: I set up a stack with a button "Holder" which contains 3 custom properties: dataDish custardPie sexyMessage containing, respectively, tab-delimited data, a number, and a string. All very straightforward . . . However, when I tried this: on mouseUp put the customPro

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Judy Perry
Nice explanation, Jacque! Judy On Sat, 2 May 2009, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't think the shoe has dropped for you yet. *All* properties contain something, and all are assigned to a specific object (the assignment is what you are calling "contained by", which probably isn't exactly the right

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 3 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Judy Perry
Aha! Now THAT's something I could find useful! (celebrating little aha moment). Thank you! :-D Judy On Sat, 2 May 2009, J. Landman Gay wrote: Let's try something simple. Suppose you have a card with lots of buttons that the user can move around; maybe your script uses the "grab" command to

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 1 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Mark Swindell
Dang, you're good, Jacqueline. Mark On May 2, 2009, at 9:47 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: The ONLY problem is that something named 'property' is something that can be contained rather than be a property: so, either, somebody has to cook up a new name for 'custom prope

RE: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 3 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Jim Bufalini
You're just TOO good at explaining things, Jacque! :-) Jacque wrote: > Let's try something simple. Suppose you have a card with lots of > buttons > that the user can move around; maybe your script uses the "grab" > command > to let them drag the butons. Now you want a way to reset the card to > i

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 3 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Seems a lot clearer now! Thank you, Jacque. Jim Bufalini wrote: You're just TOO good at explaining things, Jacque! :-) Jacque wrote: Let's try something simple. Suppose you have a card with lots of buttons that the user can move around; maybe your script uses the "grab" command to let them

Re: Dumb Newbie Questions -- 3 of N

2009-05-02 Thread Jacques Hausser
Hello everybody, Just to put my "grano salis" in this discussion: runrev (and its ancestors) evolved rather biologically and a bit erratically, like any organism or any natural language. Several users from time to time claim to put more logic in its structures. I feel it is not only hopel

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