Hi Ken
This seems more like an OS behavior
than a Rev problem doesn't it?
It sure should be made aware for those
developping on PCs hoping to deploy on osx...
While disabling a whole menu is easier, I always
did the single menuitem check on mouseenter to see
if it should or not be enabled...
On Aug 20, 2005, at 1:16 AM, MisterX wrote:
Hi Ken
This seems more like an OS behavior
than a Rev problem doesn't it?
It sure should be made aware for those
developping on PCs hoping to deploy on osx...
...
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On 8/20/05 11:31 AM, James Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, this may just be a bug (I'll log it as such), but until
it's fixed or documented, you should disable the individual
items in the menu and not the menu itself.
Ken, have you logged this yet so I can go vote for it.
Yes, it's
James Spencer wrote:
MisterX is incorrect, this is not OS behavior. The placement
of the preferences item at the end of the Edit menu and then
moving it on OS X is pure Rev.
I think it's a matter of semantics: It's a Rev issue only because OS X
doesn't need to support other operating
Ken-
Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote:
If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item
AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit
menu (you should leave the menu itself enabled, but individually disable the
items you
On 8/20/05 11:47 AM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ken-
Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote:
If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item
AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit
menu (you should leave the
Richard Gaskin wrote:
James Spencer wrote:
MisterX is incorrect, this is not OS behavior. The placement
of the preferences item at the end of the Edit menu and then
moving it on OS X is pure Rev.
I think it's a matter of semantics: It's a Rev issue only because OS X
doesn't need to
Ken Ray wrote:
On 8/20/05 11:47 AM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ken-
Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote:
If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item
AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit
menu (you
On 8/20/05 12:04 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, regardless of whether there are other apps that disable an entire menu
(thanks, Richard, for the HIG post, btw), the fact is that Rev allows you to
do it, and the results are inconsistent under OS X for the Edit menu (and
Ken-
Saturday, August 20, 2005, 9:55:24 AM, you wrote:
Well, regardless of whether there are other apps that disable an entire menu
(thanks, Richard, for the HIG post, btw), the fact is that Rev allows you to
do it, and the results are inconsistent under OS X for the Edit menu (and
probably
Richard-
Saturday, August 20, 2005, 10:02:13 AM, you wrote:
On Windows, the HIG sez:
If all items in a menu are disabled, disable its menu title.
If you disable a menu item or its title, the user can still
browse to it or choose it.
I just checked, and WinWord doesn't disable
Ken Ray wrote:
But if you disable the entire menu, what happens to your Preferences
item on Win?
It disables along with the rest of the menu
Although the Win HIG says that when all of a menu's items are
unavailable to go ahead and disable the entire menu, in the case of the
Edit menu that's
For myself, I usually split it down the middle with an Options item
under the Edit menu, set by script on startup to Preferences if it
opens on a Mac. I've mad many an email about a wide range of UI nuances
but never one on my prefs nomenclature, so unless it becomes a problem
I'm sticking
Ken Ray wrote:
For myself, I usually split it down the middle with an Options item
under the Edit menu, set by script on startup to Preferences if it
opens on a Mac. I've mad many an email about a wide range of UI nuances
but never one on my prefs nomenclature, so unless it becomes a problem
On Aug 20, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Ken Ray wrote:
Well, actually it's not as common to do that in Windows apps as in
Mac -
they usually don't have Preferences under the Edit menu; they have
Options under the Tools menu, or if it does have Preferences,
it's not
under the
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