Re: HBase mapreduce job crawls on final 25% of maps

It appears that my issue was caused by the missing sections I mentioned in the second post. I ran a job with these settings, and my job finished in < 6 hours. Thanks for your suggestions because I have further ideas regarding issues moving forward. scan.setCaching(500);// 1 is the default

Re: HBase mapreduce job crawls on final 25% of maps

Hi Chien, 4. From 50-150k per * second * to 100-150k per * minute *, as stated above, so reads went *DOWN* significantly. I think you must have misread. I will take into account some of your other suggestions. Thanks, Colin On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Chien Le wrote:

Re: HBase mapreduce job crawls on final 25% of maps

Some things I would look at: 1. Node statistics, both the mapper and regionserver nodes. Make sure they're on fully healthy nodes (no disk issues, no half duplex, etc) and that they're not already saturated from other jobs. 2. Is there a common regionserver behind the remaining mappers/regions? If

Re: HBase mapreduce job crawls on final 25% of maps

I've noticed that I've omitted scan.setCaching(500);// 1 is the default in Scan, which will be bad for MapReduce jobs scan.setCacheBlocks(false); // don't set to true for MR jobs which appear to be suggestions from examples. Still I am not sure if this explains the significant request

Re: HBase mapreduce job crawls on final 25% of maps

Excuse my double post. I thought I deleted my draft, and then constructed a cleaner, more detailed, more readable mail. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Colin Kincaid Williams wrote: > After trying to get help with distcp on hadoop-user and cdh-user > mailing lists, I've given

Re: HBASE mapReduce stoppage

Hi Dilon, Sounds like your table was not pre-split from the behavior that you are describing, but when you say that you are bulk loading the data using MR is this a MR job that does Put(s) into HBase or just generating HFiles (if using importtsv you have both options) that are later on bulk

Re: HBase MapReduce in Kerberized cluster

I searched (current) 0.98 and branch-1 where I found: ./hbase-client/src/main/java/org/apache/hadoop/hbase/security/token/TokenUtil.java Looking at both 0.98[1] and 0.98.6[2] on github I see TokenUtil as part of hbase-server. Is it necessary for us to add this call to TokenUtil to all MR jobs

Re: HBase MapReduce in Kerberized cluster

Please take a look at HBASE-12493 User class should provide a way to re-use existing token which went into 0.98.9 FYI On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Edward C. Skoviak edward.skov...@gmail.com wrote: I searched (current) 0.98 and branch-1 where I found:

Re: HBase MapReduce in Kerberized cluster

bq. it has been moved to be a part of the hbase-server package I searched (current) 0.98 and branch-1 where I found: ./hbase-client/src/main/java/org/apache/hadoop/hbase/security/token/TokenUtil.java FYI On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Edward C. Skoviak edward.skov...@gmail.com wrote: I'm

Re: Hbase Mapreduce API - Reduce to a file is not working properly.

Hi Shahab, Thanks for the response. I have added the @Override and somehow that worked. I have pasted the new Reducer code below. Though, I did not understood the difference here, as if what I have done differently. I might be a very silly reason though.

Re: Hbase Mapreduce API - Reduce to a file is not working properly.

Hi, The @Override annotation worked because, without it the reduce method in the superclass (Reducer) was being invoked, which basically writes the input from the mapper class to the context object. Try to look up the source code for the Reducer class online and you'll realize that. Hope that

Re: Hbase Mapreduce API - Reduce to a file is not working properly.

Parkirat, This is a core Java concept which is mainly related to how Class inheritance works in Java and how the @Override annotation is used, and is not Hadoop specific. (It is also used while implementing interfaces since JDK 6.) You can read about it here:

Re: Hbase Mapreduce API - Reduce to a file is not working properly.

Hi Parkirat, I don't think that HBase is causing the problems. You might already know this but need to add the reducer class to the job as you add the mapper. Also, if you want to read from a HBase table in a MapReduce job, you need to implement the TableMapper for the mapper and if you want to

Re: Hbase Mapreduce API - Reduce to a file is not working properly.

Thanks All for replying to my thread. I have further investigated the issue and found that hadoop is not running/respecting any reduce for my jobs ir-respective of if, it is normal mapreduce or hbase api of mapreduce. I am pasting word count example that I have run and the input and output file

Re: Hbase Mapreduce API - Reduce to a file is not working properly.

Add @Override notation at top of the 'reduce' method and then try (just like you are doing for the 'map' method): public class WordCountReducer extends ReducerText, IntWritable, Text, IntWritable { *@Override* protected void reduce(Text key, IterableIntWritable values,

Re: Hbase Mapreduce API - Reduce to a file is not working properly.

Hi Parkirat, I don't follow the reducer problem you're having. Can you post your code that configures the job? I assume you're using TableMapReduceUtil someplace. Your reducer is removing duplicate values? Sounds like you need to update it's logic to only emit a value once. Pastebin-ing your

Re: HBase MapReduce problem

Hi Ted, I am trying your solution. But I got the same error message. Thanks

Re: HBase MapReduce problem

Did you create the table prior to launching your program ? If so, when you scan hbase:meta table, do you see row(s) for it ? Cheers On Feb 4, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Murali muralidha...@veradistech.com wrote: Hi Ted, I am trying your solution. But I got the same error message. Thanks

Re: HBase MapReduce problem

Hi Ted, I am using HBase 0.96 version. But I am also getting the below error message 14/02/03 10:18:32 ERROR mapreduce.TableOutputFormat: org.apache.hadoop.hbase.client.NoServerForRegionException: Unable to find region for after 35 tries. Exception in thread main

Re: HBase MapReduce problem

Murali: Are you using 0.96.1.1 ? Can you show us the command line you used ? Meanwhile I assume the HBase cluster is functional - you can use shell to insert data. Cheers On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Murali muralidha...@veradistech.com wrote: Hi Ted, I am using HBase 0.96 version.

Re: HBase MapReduce problem

Hi Ted Thanks for your reply. I am using HBase version 0.96.0. I can insert a record using shell command. I am running the below command to run my MapReduce job. It is a word count example. Reading a text file from hdfs file path and insert the counts to HBase table. hadoop jar hb.jar

Re: HBase MapReduce problem

See the sample command in http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#trouble.mapreduce : HADOOP_CLASSPATH=`hbase classpath` hadoop jar On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Murali muralidha...@veradistech.com wrote: Hi Ted Thanks for your reply. I am using HBase version 0.96.0. I can insert a record

Re: HBase MapReduce with setup function problem

Have you considered using MultiTableInputFormat ? Cheers On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:14 AM, daidong daidon...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I am writing a MapReduce application processing HBase table. In each map, it needs to read data from another HBase table, so i use the 'setup' function

Re: HBase MapReduce with setup function problem

I agree that we should find the cause for why initialization got stuck. I noticed empty catch block: } catch (IOException e) { } Can you add some logging there to see what might have gone wrong ? Thanks On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM, daidong daidon...@gmail.com wrote: Dear

Re: HBase MapReduce problem

Why do you use 0.95 which was a developer release ? See http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#d243e520 Cheers On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:40 AM, daidong daidon...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I have a simple HBase MapReduce application and try to run it on a 12-node cluster using this command:

Re: HBase MapReduce problem

Thanks Ted, I actually tried to modify HBase, so i choose this developer release. So, you are thinking this is a version problem, should disappear if i switched to 0.96? 2014/1/24 Ted Yu yuzhih...@gmail.com Why do you use 0.95 which was a developer release ? See

Re: HBase mapreduce job: unable to find region for a table

Hi, Is your table properly served? Are you able to see it on the Web UI? Is you HBCK reporting everything correctly? JM 2013/7/11 S. Zhou myx...@yahoo.com I am running a very simple MR HBase job (reading from a tiny HBase table and outputs nothing). I run it on a pseudo-distributed HBase

Re: HBase mapreduce job: unable to find region for a table

Yes, I can see the table through hbase shell and web ui (localhost:60010). hbck reports ok From: Jean-Marc Spaggiari jean-m...@spaggiari.org To: user@hbase.apache.org; S. Zhou myx...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:01 AM Subject: Re: HBase

Re: HBase mapreduce job: unable to find region for a table

-Marc Spaggiari jean-m...@spaggiari.org *To:* user@hbase.apache.org; S. Zhou myx...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:01 AM *Subject:* Re: HBase mapreduce job: unable to find region for a table Hi, Is your table properly served? Are you able to see it on the Web UI? Is you HBCK

Re: hbase + mapreduce

Here you have several examples: http://hbase.apache.org/book/mapreduce.example.html http://sujee.net/tech/articles/hadoop/hbase-map-reduce-freq-counter/ http://bigdataprocessing.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/hadoop-hbase-mapreduce-examples/

Re: Hbase Mapreduce- Problem in using arrayList of pust in MapFunction

Tnx,But I don't know why when the client.buffer.size is increased, I've got bad result,does it related to other parameters ? and I give 8 gb heap to each regionserver. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Harsh J ha...@cloudera.com wrote: Hi Farrokh, This isn't a HDFS question - please ask these

Re: Hbase Mapreduce- Problem in using arrayList of pust in MapFunction

Give put(ListPut puts) a shot and see if it works for you. Warm Regards, Tariq https://mtariq.jux.com/ cloudfront.blogspot.com On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Farrokh Shahriari mohandes.zebeleh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there Is there any way to use arrayList of Puts in map function to

RE: Hbase Mapreduce- Problem in using arrayList of pust in MapFunction

And also how can I use autoflush bufferclientside in Map function for inserting data to Hbase Table ? You are using TableOutputFormat right? Here autoFlush is turned OFF ... You can use config param hbase.client.write.buffer to set the client side buffer size. -Anoop-

Re: Hbase MapReduce

/2012 01:33 PM Subject:RE: Hbase MapReduce It 's weird that hbase aggregate functions don't use MapReduce, this means that the performance will be very poor. Is it a must to use coprocessors? Is there a much easier way to improve the functions' performance ? CC: user@hbase.apache.org

Re: Hbase MapReduce

Regards, Dalia. You have to use MapReduce for that. In the HBase in Practice´s book, there are lot of great examples for this. On 11/24/2012 12:15 PM, Dalia Sobhy wrote: Dear all, I wanted to ask a question.. Do Hbase Aggregate Functions such as rowcount, getMax, get Average use MapReduce to

Re: Hbase MapReduce

Hi, but you do not need to us M/R. You could also use coprocessors. See this site: https://blogs.apache.org/hbase/entry/coprocessor_introduction - in the section Endpoints An aggregation coprocessor ships with hbase that should match your requirements. You just need to load it and eventually

Re: Hbase MapReduce

Do you think it would be a good idea to temper the use of CoProcessors? This kind of reminds me of when people first started using stored procedures... Sent from a remote device. Please excuse any typos... Mike Segel On Nov 24, 2012, at 11:46 AM, tom t...@arcor.de wrote: Hi, but you do not

RE: Hbase MapReduce

It 's weird that hbase aggregate functions don't use MapReduce, this means that the performance will be very poor. Is it a must to use coprocessors? Is there a much easier way to improve the functions' performance ? CC: user@hbase.apache.org From: michael_se...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Hbase

RE: Hbase MapReduce

To: user@hbase.apache.org user@hbase.apache.org, Date: 11/24/2012 01:33 PM Subject:RE: Hbase MapReduce It 's weird that hbase aggregate functions don't use MapReduce, this means that the performance will be very poor. Is it a must to use coprocessors? Is there a much easier way

Re: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source

Hello Amlan, Issue is still unresolved...Will get fixed in 0.96.0. Regards, Mohammad Tariq On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Amlan Roy amlan@cleartrip.com wrote: Hi, While writing a MapReduce job for HBase, can I use multiple tables as input? I think

Re: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source

Hi, Isn't that the case that you can always initiate a scanner inside a map job (referring to another table from which had been set into the configuration of TableMapReduceUtil.initTableMapperJob(...) ) ? Hope this serves as temporary solution. On 08/06/2012 02:35 PM, Mohammad Tariq wrote:

Re: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source

Hi Amlan, I think if you share your usecase regarding two tables as inputs, people on the mailing list may be able to help you better. For example, are you looking at joining the two tables? What are the sizes of the tables etc? Best Regards, Sonal Crux: Reporting for HBase

RE: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source

. What is the best solution available in 0.92.0 (I understand the best solution is coming in version 0.96.0). Regards, Amlan -Original Message- From: Ioakim Perros [mailto:imper...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 5:11 PM To: user@hbase.apache.org Subject: Re: HBase MapReduce - Using

Re: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source

the best solution is coming in version 0.96.0). Regards, Amlan -Original Message- From: Ioakim Perros [mailto:imper...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 5:11 PM To: user@hbase.apache.org Subject: Re: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source Hi, Isn't that the case

RE: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source

Subject: Re: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source Hi, Isn't that the case that you can always initiate a scanner inside a map job (referring to another table from which had been set into the configuration of TableMapReduceUtil.initTableMapperJob(...) ) ? Hope this serves

Re: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Wei Tan w...@us.ibm.com wrote: I understand that this is achievable by running multiple MR jobs, each with a different output table specified in the reduce class. What I want is to scan a source table once and generate multiple tables at one time. Thanks,

Re: HBase MapReduce - Using mutiple tables as source

Its available just as a patch on trunk for now. You wont find it in 0.92.0 ./zahoor On 06-Aug-2012, at 5:01 PM, Amlan Roy amlan@cleartrip.com wrote: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-3996

Re: HBase mapreduce sink - using a custom TableReducer to pass in Puts

My first guess would be to check if all the KVs using the same qualifier, because then it's basically the same cell 10 times. J-D On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Ben Kim benkimkim...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I'm writing a mapreduce code to read a SequenceFile and write it to hbase table.

Re: HBase mapreduce sink - using a custom TableReducer to pass in Puts

Oops I made mistake while copy-paste The reducer initialization code should be like this TableMapReduceUtil.initTableReducerJob(rs_system, MyTableReducer, itemTableJob); On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Ben Kim benkimkim...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I'm writing a mapreduce code to read a

Re: HBase MapReduce Job with Multiple Scans

Take a look at HBASE-3996 where Stack has some comments outstanding. Cheers On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Shawn Quinn squ...@moxiegroup.com wrote: Hello, I have a table whose key is structured as eventType + time, and I need to periodically run a map reduce job on the table which will

Re: HBase MapReduce Job with Multiple Scans

Sounds good, thanks Ted. I'll give it a whirl and add any comments/findings to the Jira issue. -Shawn On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Ted Yu yuzhih...@gmail.com wrote: Stack said he might help implement his suggestions if Eran is busy. The patch doesn't depend on recent changes to the

Re: hbase mapreduce running though command line

i tried to run the program from eclipse, but during that , i could not see any job running on the jobtracker/tasktracker web UI pages. i observed that on the eclipse localJobRunner is executing , so that job is not submitted to the whole cluster, but its executing on that name node machine alone.

Re: hbase mapreduce running though command line

You don't need the conf dir in the jar, in fact you really don't want it there. I don't know where that alert is coming from, would be nice if you gave more details. J-D On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Vamshi Krishna vamshi2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i want to run mapreduce program to insert

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

I had the same issue. The problem for me turned out to be that the hbase.zookeeper.quorum was not set in hbase-site.xml in the server that submitted the mapreduce job. Ironically, this is also the same server that was running hbase master. This defaulted to 127.0.0.1 which was where the

Re: Hbase Mapreduce jobs Dashboard

HBase doesn't have it's own MapReduce system, it uses Hadoop's. How are you launching your jobs? On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Jimson K. James jimson.ja...@nestgroup.net wrote: Hi All, When I run Hadoop mapreduce jobs, the job statistics and status is displayed in jobtracker/task

RE: Hbase Mapreduce jobs Dashboard

Subject: Re: Hbase Mapreduce jobs Dashboard HBase doesn't have it's own MapReduce system, it uses Hadoop's. How are you launching your jobs? On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Jimson K. James jimson.ja...@nestgroup.net wrote: Hi All, When I run Hadoop mapreduce jobs, the job statistics and status

Re: Hbase Mapreduce jobs Dashboard

PM To: user@hbase.apache.org Subject: Re: Hbase Mapreduce jobs Dashboard HBase doesn't have it's own MapReduce system, it uses Hadoop's. How are you launching your jobs? On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Jimson K. James jimson.ja...@nestgroup.net wrote: Hi All, When I run Hadoop

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

this issue is still not resolved... unfortunatelly calling HConnectionManager.deleteConnection(conf, true); after the MR job is finished, does not close the connection to the zookeeper we have 3 zookeeper nodes by default there is a limit of 10 connections allowed from a single client so after

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Try getting the ZooKeeperWatcher from the connection on your way out and explicitly shutdown the zk connection (see TestZooKeeper unit test for example). St.Ack On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Andre Reiter a.rei...@web.de wrote: this issue is still not resolved... unfortunatelly calling

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

10 connection maximum is too low. It has been recommended to go up to as many as 2000 connections in the list. This doesn't fix your problem but is something you should probably have in your configuration. ~Jeff On 7/28/2011 10:00 AM, Stack wrote: Try getting the ZooKeeperWatcher from the

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

@hbase.apache.org Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 12:10:16 PM Subject: Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper 10 connection maximum is too low. It has been recommended to go up to as many as 2000 connections in the list. This doesn't fix your problem but is something you should probably have in your

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

i guess, i know the reason, why HConnectionManager.deleteConnection(conf, true); does not work for me in the MR job im using TableInputFormat, if you have a look at the source code in the method public void setConf(Configuration configuration) there is a line creating the HTable like this :

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Yes, that's the connection leak. Use deleteAllConnections(true), and it will close all open connections. - Ruben From: Andre Reiter a.rei...@web.de To: user@hbase.apache.org Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 4:55:52 PM Subject: Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper i guess

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

From: Andre Reiter a.rei...@web.de To: user@hbase.apache.org Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 4:55:52 PM Subject: Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper i guess, i know the reason, why  HConnectionManager.deleteConnection(conf, true); does not work for me in the MR job im using

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

hi Ruben, St.Ack thanks a lot for your help! finally, the problem seems to be solved by an pretty sick workaround i did it like Bryan Keller described in this issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-3792 @Ruben: thanks for the urls to that issues cheers andre

Re: HBase Mapreduce cannot find Map class

Maybe job.setJarByClass() can solve this problem. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:06 PM, air cnwe...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: air cnwe...@gmail.com Date: 2011/7/28 Subject: HBase Mapreduce cannot find Map class To: CDH Users cdh-u...@cloudera.org import

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Hi St.Ack, thanks for your reply but funally i miss the point, what would be the options to solve our issue? andre

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Can you reuse Configuration instances though the configuration changes? Else in your Mapper#cleanup, call HTable.close() then try HConnectionManager.deleteConnection(table.getConfiguration()) after close (could be issue with executors used by multi* operations not completing before delete of

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Hi Stack, just to make clear, actually the connections to the zookeeper being kept are not on our mappers (tasktrackers) but on the client, which schedules the MR job i think, the mappers are just fine, as they are andre Stack wrote: Can you reuse Configuration instances though the

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Then similarly, can you do the deleteConnection above in your client or reuse the Configuration client-side that you use setting up the job? St.Ack On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Andre Reiter a.rei...@web.de wrote: Hi Stack, just to make clear, actually the connections to the zookeeper

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Hi St.Ack, actually calling HConnectionManager.deleteConnection(conf, true); does not close the connection to the zookeeper i still can see the connection established... andre Stack wrote: Then similarly, can you do the deleteConnection above in your client or reuse the Configuration

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Andre: So you didn't see the following in client log (HConnectionManager line 1067) ? LOG.info(Closed zookeeper sessionid=0x + Long.toHexString(this.zooKeeper.getZooKeeper().getSessionId())); HConnectionManager.deleteConnection(conf, true) is supposed to close zk connection in

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

unfortunatelly there was no such LOG entry... :-( our versions: hadoop-0.20.2-CDH3B4 hbase-0.90.1-CDH3B4 zookeeper-3.3.2-CDH3B4 either the map HConnectionManager.HBASE_INSTANCES does not contain the connection for the current config, or HConnectionImplementation.zooKeeper is null but the

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

This seems to be cdh related. either the map HConnectionManager.HBASE_INSTANCES does not contain the connection for the current config You need to pass the same conf object. In trunk, I added the following: public static void deleteStaleConnection(HConnection connection) { See

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Hi Ted, thanks for the reply, at the moment i'm hust wondering, why the client creates a zookeeper connection at all all the client has to do, is to schedule a MR job, which is done by connecting to the jobtracker and to provide all the needed stuff, config, some extra resources in the

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

My guess is that it needs to ask the master for the regions so it can make the splits used by mapper tasks (to find master, needs to ask zk, etc.). Check it out yourself under the mapreduce package? St.Ack On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Andre Reiter a.rei...@web.de wrote: Hi Ted, thanks for

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Hi there- re: that we have to reuse the Configuration object You are probably referring to this... http://hbase.apache.org/book.html#client.connections ... yes, that is general guidance on client connection.. re: do i have to create a pool of Configuration objects, to share them

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Hi Doug, thanks a lot for reply, it's clear, that there is a parameter for maxClientCnxns, which is 10 by default of course i could increase it to s.th. big. but like i said, the old connections are still there, and i cannot imagine, that this is a correct behaviour, to let them open

Re: HBase MapReduce Zookeeper

Configuration is not Comparable. Its instance identity that is used comparing Configurations down in the guts of HConnectionManager in 0.90.x hbase so even if you reuse a Configuration and tweak it per job, as far as HCM is concerned its the 'same'. Are you seeing otherwise? St.Ack On Tue, Jul