the pages and flow etc
before any of the application is ready.
Where can I find more info on this?
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From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] JSP Clutter
From: Michael Jouravlev
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From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] JSP Clutter
From: Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
With Tapestry you create HTML template for each page, then stick data
into it, using jwcid attribute. Your
Apologies if this it _too_ off-topic, but I think it might be worth
mentioning. In the same vein as my web framework is better than
yours we, in the office, have been having a fairly heated
discussion about which way we go technology wise next. Over the past
six months we have been
JSP/HTML/XHTML is a messy mark-up. It is cumbersome to
refactor and a bugger to work out. We could use Tapestry or
JSF and forget about HTML.
That's right, but as long as you deliver html to the customer, you have to
deal with it, regardless of your technology.
At the end of the day,
The anti-Struts/MVC argument, and it isn't mine, is that whereas
Tapestry and JSF will generate the HTML/JSP, with Struts it has to be
written and maintained. Now I haven't spent that much time with
either Tapestry or JSF, but from what little I have read; it would
appear that they can
.
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From: Christopher Marsh-Bourdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 4:41 PM
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Subject: [OT] JSP Clutter
Apologies if this it _too_ off-topic, but I think it might be worth
mentioning. In the same vein as my web framework is better
.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Marsh-Bourdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 4:41 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] JSP Clutter
Apologies if this it _too_ off-topic, but I think it might be worth
mentioning. In the same vein as my web framework
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Christopher Marsh-Bourdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Montag, 8. August 2005 23:05
An: Struts Users Mailing List
Betreff: Re: [OT] JSP Clutter
The anti-Struts/MVC argument, and it isn't mine, is that
whereas Tapestry and JSF
Christopher Marsh-Bourdon wrote:
The anti-Struts/MVC argument, and it isn't mine, is that whereas
Tapestry and JSF will generate the HTML/JSP, with Struts it has to be
written and maintained. Now I haven't spent that much time with
either Tapestry or JSF, but from what little I have read;
2005 23:05
An: Struts Users Mailing List
Betreff: Re: [OT] JSP Clutter
The anti-Struts/MVC argument, and it isn't mine, is that
whereas Tapestry and JSF will generate the HTML/JSP, with
Struts it has to be written and maintained. Now I haven't
spent that much time with either Tapestry or JSF
On 8/8/05, Christopher Marsh-Bourdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Over the past
six months we have been migrating our front-ends from .net to Java
based technologies, and Struts in the main. Now a new manager has
come on board and he wishes us to revisit the reasons why we choose
Struts. Now I
Sorry, the point was not to compare .net/JSF/Tapestry against Struts,
but to highlight that a bit fore thought into developing a good CSS
at the start of the project would have reduced the amount of markup
we have had to write in the last six months. It certainly makes our
life easier to
www.csszengarden.com
www.alistapart.com
On 8/8/05, Johnson, Kaerstin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not understanding what you mean by this (encompassing* CSS), or
perhaps I am not familiar with some technique, can you elaborate or
provide an example? I am intrigued..
With Tapestry you create HTML template for each page, then stick data
into it, using jwcid attribute. Your webdesigner is happy.
With JSF you compose page using JSF tags either manually or using
visual IDE, and then JSP/JSF engine will generate HTML in the runtime
(I don't know how HTML is
On 8/8/05, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/8/05, Christopher Marsh-Bourdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Over the past
six months we have been migrating our front-ends from .net to Java
based technologies, and Struts in the main. Now a new manager has
come on board and he
From: Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
With Tapestry you create HTML template for each page, then stick data
into it, using jwcid attribute. Your webdesigner is happy.
With JSF you compose page using JSF tags either manually or using
visual IDE, and then JSP/JSF engine will generate HTML
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