Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Newton
Pilgrim, Peter wrote: Missed Frank's post. SVG I thought so! When I save the image it's a PNG. Firefox dosn't support native SVG images (yeah yeah, 1.5 RC2 does). I don't know about IE SVG support. When you first load the page it shows the image in its original size. Dave -

RE: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Pilgrim, Peter
Missed Frank's post. SVG I thought so! -- Peter Pilgrim :: J2EE Software Development Operations/IT - Credit Suisse First Boston, Floor 15, 5 Canada Square, London E14 4QJ, United Kingdom Tel: +44-(0)207-883-4497 == Plea

RE: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Pilgrim, Peter
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 November 2005 10:51 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: OT: Best AJAX framework > > > http://dojotoolkit.org/~alex/dojo/trunk/demos/widget/Fisheye.h > tml<http://dojotoolkit.org/%7Ealex/dojo/trunk/demos/widget/Fis > heye.html&g

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Newton
Martin Cooper wrote: Bzzt! Wrong, sorry. ;-) Firefox 1.5 has native SVG support. No wrong here; I know 1.5 has SVG, but it's still an RC, so I don't care. I'm rarely impressed by release candidates. The Firefox I and most consumers are running doesn't. I'm always irritated by things like

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Martin Cooper wrote: Like I said, these guys know their stuff. That much is most definitely clear :) I like to think I could have pulled that off, but I'm rather glad I didn't have to :) Martin Cooper Frank - To unsubsc

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Cooper
Dave Newton wrote: Frank W. Zammetti wrote: I have to admit I just quickly glanced at the code and it wasn't immediately clear to me how it worked. I saw PNGs, but I also saw reference to SVG's (Scalable Vector Graphics for anyone that might not know). It makes sense that the growing and sh

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Yeah, me too :) Let's just enjoy the uber-coolness of it :) Frank Dave Newton wrote: Frank W. Zammetti wrote: I have to admit I just quickly glanced at the code and it wasn't immediately clear to me how it worked. I saw PNGs, but I also saw reference to SVG's (Scalable Vector Graphics for

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Newton
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: I have to admit I just quickly glanced at the code and it wasn't immediately clear to me how it worked. I saw PNGs, but I also saw reference to SVG's (Scalable Vector Graphics for anyone that might not know). It makes sense that the growing and shrinking be done with

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Enjoy working tomorrow, I'll be enjoying the Philadelphia Video Game Expo with my son! Frank Rafael Nami wrote: Dave Newton wrote: But it's Friday, my brain hurts. My brain hurts becoz it's friday and becoz I have to work tomorrow (ow god, finally the sun came, and I can't go to the beach ;p

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Rafael Nami
Dave Newton wrote: But it's Friday, my brain hurts. My brain hurts becoz it's friday and becoz I have to work tomorrow (ow god, finally the sun came, and I can't go to the beach ;p). Cheers and Best All Rafael Mauricio Nami 2005/11/11, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have to admit

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I have to admit I just quickly glanced at the code and it wasn't immediately clear to me how it worked. I saw PNGs, but I also saw reference to SVG's (Scalable Vector Graphics for anyone that might not know). It makes sense that the growing and shrinking be done with SVGs, it's tailor-made fo

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Newton
Dave Newton wrote: Frank W. Zammetti wrote: That *IS* very cool, although I'm not sure how truly useful (that wouldn't stop me from using it though, it just LOOKS so cool!)... but it's worth noting that it is really more a demonstration of cool DHTML and SVG than AJAX. I think the images a

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Newton
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: That *IS* very cool, although I'm not sure how truly useful (that wouldn't stop me from using it though, it just LOOKS so cool!)... but it's worth noting that it is really more a demonstration of cool DHTML and SVG than AJAX. I think the images are PNGs? Dave ---

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
That *IS* very cool, although I'm not sure how truly useful (that wouldn't stop me from using it though, it just LOOKS so cool!)... but it's worth noting that it is really more a demonstration of cool DHTML and SVG than AJAX. Frank Rafael Nami wrote: http://dojotoolkit.org/~alex/dojo/trunk/d

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Ulrich Elsner
On 11/11/05, Rafael Nami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://dojotoolkit.org/~alex/dojo/trunk/demos/widget/Fisheye.html > > WOW! +1 > > 2005/11/11, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > netsql wrote: > > > Just to be difere

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-11 Thread Rafael Nami
http://dojotoolkit.org/~alex/dojo/trunk/demos/widget/Fisheye.html WOW! 2005/11/11, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > netsql wrote: > > Just to be diferent, there are alternatives to Ajax: > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/sma

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Cooper
netsql wrote: Just to be diferent, there are alternatives to Ajax: http://msdn.microsoft.com/smartclient/understanding/definition/default.aspx Ooh! Isomorphic is not going to like that. They've had an Ajax toolkit product named SmartClient for quite a few years now. http://www.smartclient.co

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Cooper
Mark Benussi wrote: I havent heard of one. Its only Javascript at the end of the day! Yeah, right! -- Martin Cooper Here are some methods I have in an ajax.js and some example code to invoke the code. ajax.js /** * Returns an XMLHttpRequest object based on the client platform */ functio

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Cooper
Laurie Harper wrote: Joe Germuska wrote: [...] I would recommend against using Prototype[3] or JSON[4] with Struts, as they use a JavaScript strategy which is incompatible with commons-validator and the html:javascript tag (see Bug #37134[5]). [...] [5] http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/sh

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Cooper
Joe Germuska wrote: At 4:43 PM +0100 11/8/05, Nicolas De Loof wrote: I'm using DWR on my webapp for navigation in a table, using a "Page 1 2 3 ..." footer. DWR makes it realy simple based on a List put into user session. Browser can get requested elements from list and DWR comes with utils to

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Niall Pemberton
Laurie, I've added a note on the bug, with a link to your messages. Niall - Original Message - From: "Laurie Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:13 PM > I just tried it, and prototype+validator works fine for me. It's > possible my test just didn't use the

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Laurie Harper
Laurie Harper wrote: Joe Germuska wrote: [...] I would recommend against using Prototype[3] or JSON[4] with Struts, as they use a JavaScript strategy which is incompatible with commons-validator and the html:javascript tag (see Bug #37134[5]). [...] [5] http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/sh

RE: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Lukasz Racon
Mailing List > Subject: Re: OT: Best AJAX framework > > >Super, I tested ajaxtags and really liked it, but that's how I said > >before - The team arged that before using a framework, they have to > >understand what Ajax is. > >So like, I don't have to supply xml

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Yujun Liang
I also delivered an AJAX-like web application for ABN AMRO, so the users in India can access a mainframe in Chicago. The performance is surprising. It is even faster than a client/server version of the application. The best approach for AJAX is to develop the custom tags. For example, tag for inpu

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Laurie Harper
Joe Germuska wrote: [...] I would recommend against using Prototype[3] or JSON[4] with Struts, as they use a JavaScript strategy which is incompatible with commons-validator and the html:javascript tag (see Bug #37134[5]). [...] [5] http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37134 I

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread netsql
Just to be diferent, there are alternatives to Ajax: http://msdn.microsoft.com/smartclient/understanding/definition/default.aspx .V Rafael Nami wrote: Super, I tested ajaxtags and really liked it, but that's how I said before - The team arged that before using a framework, they have to understa

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
That post is dead-on. I've been building webapps this way for almost six years now, although without XMLHttpRequest for most of that time... there are alternative ways to implement the concept, but it's the underlying concept that's important, and as the poster said, it's not exactly rocket scienc

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Ben Kim
>Super, I tested ajaxtags and really liked it, but that's how I said before - >The team arged that before using a framework, they have to understand what >Ajax is. >So like, I don't have to supply xml to xmlHttpRequest? How can I do it? I guess you might find this interesting. Rasmus' 30 second A

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Well, first, are we talking about the right ajaxtags? :) There's a whole separate project with that name, and they supply essentially complete AJAX-based components. The ajaxtags in JWP is more low-level and flexible, more of a toolkit in the classic sense. I ask because in fact most of what my

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Rafael Nami
Super, I tested ajaxtags and really liked it, but that's how I said before - The team arged that before using a framework, they have to understand what Ajax is. So like, I don't have to supply xml to xmlHttpRequest? How can I do it? Thanks in advance Rafael Mauricio Nami 2005/11/10, Frank W. Zam

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I'm not sure there are any at this point. I'm sure some have been proposed by someone somewhere, but I'm not aware of them. You might want to have a look at my AjaxTags if your finding what your doing now to be a bit of a pain... http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net... go to the javadocs and find

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Rafael Nami
Well, we are using here plain ol' XMLHttpRequest, but it's a pain in the ass writing jsps that creates xmls to use with xmlHttpRequest. We want to improve our knowledge in AJAX, to later move to a AJAX framework. What're the "best practices" using AJAX? Thanks in advance Rafael Mauricio Nami 200

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
The original Struts-only version of AjaxTags is somewhat close to this... http://struts.sourceforge.net/ajaxtags/index.html It isn't exactly what your looking for, but it could be a start... It won't bind directly to beans, but it should be pretty trivial to write an Action to do that part. Make

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Bill Schneider
There seems to be a ton of AJAX stuff out there now. But what I'm looking for is a JSP/Struts tag library that handles bindings between the Javascript calls and the beans in request scope, so I can just drop a JSP tag in and get my widget all hooked up. Kind of like DisplayTag, or the stuff w

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Joe Germuska
At 10:36 AM +0200 11/10/05, Ovidiu EFTIMIE wrote: You should also take a look at www.openrico.org Rico builds upon prototype.js and so is subject to the same warning:as prototype. If you don't use html:javascript in your Struts app, it's no problem, but if you want to add AJAX to your app w

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-10 Thread Ovidiu EFTIMIE
You should also take a look at www.openrico.org On 11/8/05, Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 4:43 PM +0100 11/8/05, Nicolas De Loof wrote: > >I'm using DWR on my webapp for navigation in a > >table, using a "Page 1 2 3 ..." footer. > >DWR makes it realy simple based on a List put > >in

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-08 Thread Joe Germuska
At 4:43 PM +0100 11/8/05, Nicolas De Loof wrote: I'm using DWR on my webapp for navigation in a table, using a "Page 1 2 3 ..." footer. DWR makes it realy simple based on a List put into user session. Browser can get requested elements from list and DWR comes with utils to upgrade the table co

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-08 Thread Nicolas De Loof
I'm using DWR on my webapp for navigation in a table, using a "Page 1 2 3 ..." footer. DWR makes it realy simple based on a List put into user session. Browser can get requested elements from list and DWR comes with utils to upgrade the table contain. Faisal Mahmoud a écrit : Check out htt

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-08 Thread Faisal Mahmoud
Check out http://www.backbase.com for an Ajax framework. On 11/8/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Far be it from me to push my own creation... > > http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net > > Go into the javadocs and look at the javawebparts.taglib.ajaxtags package. > This isn't the

Re: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-08 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Far be it from me to push my own creation... http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net Go into the javadocs and look at the javawebparts.taglib.ajaxtags package. This isn't the AjaxTags you may have heard of lately, they are two separate projects that just happen to have the same name. I think it's r

RE: OT: Best AJAX framework

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Benussi
I havent heard of one. Its only Javascript at the end of the day! Here are some methods I have in an ajax.js and some example code to invoke the code. ajax.js /** * Returns an XMLHttpRequest object based on the client platform */ function getXMLHttpRequest() { var newRequest = null;