Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-14 Thread David Beasley
Thanks for all the further suggestions. I'll use Coccon 2.1. (I dont know anything about Spring/Maven/Hibernate) Derek Hohls wrote: Personally, I would think that Cocoon 2.1 is the most well-developed and stable of the series. 2.0 is really out-of-date. 2.2 might be worth tackling if you're p

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-14 Thread Derek Hohls
Personally, I would think that Cocoon 2.1 is the most well-developed and stable of the series. 2.0 is really out-of-date. 2.2 might be worth tackling if you're prepared to learn the associated frameworks such as Spring and Hibernate, plus be prepared to do Java coding; but, as many others have po

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-12 Thread Barbara Slupik
Hello I wrote two applications using CForms, Spring and Hibernate in Cocoon 2.1. It found it relatively easy to upgrade them to Cocoon 2.2. I think that CForms, Spring and Hibernate work very well together. But the same client also has a couple of old applications which still run in Cocoo

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-11 Thread Jeroen Reijn
...which in turn would result in Hippo 7 to get a Cocoon front-end, right? :-) Well yes that could indeed happen, but we're not there yet. :-) Jeroen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@cocoon.apache.org For additi

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Jos Snellings
Hi, Recognizing the feeling of disconcertation when after having worked with Cocoon 2.1 one comes back and finds out about Cocoon 2.2. - many things have changed, (striving towards MVC paradigm) which is OK, if things are improving - Cocoon still depends on Avalon (which caused me troubles in

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Franco Pace
Version 2.1 is still king for me! On 11/09/2009, at 2:44 AM, David Beasley wrote: Thanks for everyone's responses. I'm beginning to think that I should use Cocoon 2.0, because at least I know this is well documented. Which is a shame after people have put a lot of effort into developing ve

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Kamal Bhatt
David Beasley wrote: Thanks for everyone's responses. I'm beginning to think that I should use Cocoon 2.0, because at least I know this is well documented. Which is a shame after people have put a lot of effort into developing versions 2.1 and 2.2 ... I would recommend Cocoon 2.1. The documen

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Kamal Bhatt
David Beasley wrote: I'm looking for help with starting to use Cocoon 2.2. I've looked at the website (cocoon.apache.org), but havent found very much in terms of introductory guides, tutorials, etc. Tutorials are something that is really lacking. I don't know if it is me, but I think that docu

RE: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Robby Pelssers
al Message- From: David Beasley [mailto:david.beas...@publishingtechnology.com] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:44 PM To: users@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2 Thanks for everyone's responses. I'm beginning to think that I should use Cocoon 2.0, because a

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread David Beasley
Thanks for everyone's responses. I'm beginning to think that I should use Cocoon 2.0, because at least I know this is well documented. Which is a shame after people have put a lot of effort into developing versions 2.1 and 2.2 ... David Legg wrote: > Most of the useful documentation can be fo

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread warrell harries
IMHO, developers tend to mirror the general population in that the majority follow the herd. The habits of imperative Java programming and the not-invented-here syndrome meant that Cocoon was only ever going to appeal to a minority of enlightened developers. Maven is a head f&*ck for the average J

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Francesco Chicchiriccò
On 10/sep/09, at 16:55, Jeroen Reijn wrote Well I think that some people have put Cocoon on a low profile. There were a lot of great frameworks added to the ASF code base lately, which made people broaden their perspective. I don't really think that people quit working with/on Cocoon, bec

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Jeroen Reijn
Well I think that some people have put Cocoon on a low profile. There were a lot of great frameworks added to the ASF code base lately, which made people broaden their perspective. I don't really think that people quit working with/on Cocoon, because Cocoon 2.1 is stable and a lot of people ar

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Andre Juffer
Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: On 10/sep/09, at 15:05, Ellis Pritchard wrote: Lamentable indeed. Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2, after much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon using 'pure' java and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's of

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Francesco Chicchiriccò
On 10/sep/09, at 15:05, Ellis Pritchard wrote: Lamentable indeed. Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2, after much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon using 'pure' java and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's of lines of horrible java to

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread Ellis Pritchard
Lamentable indeed. Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2, after much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon using 'pure' java and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's of lines of horrible java to do stuff cocoon did for free, I realize how much

Re: Starting out with Cocoon 2.2

2009-09-10 Thread David Legg
Hi David, I'm just about to embark on a new project... I'd like to use Cocoon 2.2 for this, but I'm concerned about the apparent lack of support for it. It is true that Cocoon has hit a low point at the moment and I'm sure many of us wonder if it will ever recover. Many of the original cont