Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread gkk gb
> Does that help clarify? Absolutely! Thanks so much > > On September 19, 2017 at 1:00 PM Jeffry Houser > wrote: > > On 9/19/2017 12:00 PM, gkk gb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Our sweet spot is single page applications. > >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, ok that's an argument that I was not considering. Still think that people are more confortable with projects managed by a large company. Apache has great name and if project gets to a good shape a maturity I think OS foundations are better than a big company that can change the product or kill

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
Yes, I've heard the support topic before. I'm not quite sure how other Apache projects handle support. I would think that many of these same "bigger clients" are using at least one Apache project's releases. Like HTTPD or Maven, etc. Do we know how "big" the support company would have to be?

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Carlos, When that topic comes up, I talk about corporate-driven open source vs Apache open source. Corporate-driven open source has the advantage of serious money and marketing, but the disadvantage of an individual customer having less impact. In Apache open source, especially Flex where

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
 I think that Apache is a big enough name that it is probably 'good enough' to give anyone confidence in using an Apache Project.  What we're missing is a formal support infrastructure.  I find that many of my bigger clients want a "formal" support agreement so they can yell at someone when

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Carlos Rovira
That's great point. For me our real weakness is that our competitors has behind Google, Facebook... and for me is the only thing that don't know how to overpass 2017-09-19 21:51 GMT+02:00 Jeffry Houser : > > On 9/19/2017 12:29 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> It might be

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 9/19/2017 12:00 PM, gkk gb wrote: Our sweet spot is single page applications. We are not a great fit for ... multi-page applications. Can anyone expand on the above comment? Like Flex, isn't FlexJS geared towards enterprise applications that are fairly complex, where HTML is not a good

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 9/19/2017 12:29 PM, Alex Harui wrote: It might be interesting to hear why people chose Flex in the first place. There was competition back then as well (Silverlight, Lazlo, and more). 1) It targeted the Flash Player, which was on just about every browser.  Silverlight couldn't offer that;

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Peter Ent
Hi, What's the feeling here about the trend of replacing web sites with mobile apps? I realize that not everyone in the world has a smart phone or tablet and now the baseline is a simple computer with a browser, but it seems more often that a company-specific app gets the end user more. These

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
It might be interesting to hear why people chose Flex in the first place. There was competition back then as well (Silverlight, Lazlo, and more). I believe that developer productivity was a major factor. And performance/bandwidth advantages of AMF. To me, FlexJS bets heavily on the developer

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread gkk gb
> Our sweet spot is single page applications. > We are not a great fit for ... multi-page applications. Can anyone expand on the above comment? Like Flex, isn't FlexJS geared towards enterprise applications that are fairly complex, where HTML is not a good fit? > On September 19, 2017 at 1:58

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
  In my version of the world, the biggest 'competitors' for the "HTML5 Framework" space are: 1) *React *for reasons that Peter mentioned.  I think this is the 'biggest Player' in the current job market, but the licensing / patent issues will probably hurt it. 2) *Angular*, which is from

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
To me, the key differentiators of FlexJS is: 1. We consider HTML a rendering engine rather than an authoring language. 2. End-to-end tooling which eliminates a lot of the pain points of web app development 3. MXML 4. Flexibly interchangeable component sets. Point #1 can be considered an

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-19 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Berty, I think all points are ok but the second (security) don't know how much effort was put in that corner, maybe others could give some thoughts there, and I think nowadays is a key point. Thanks! Carlos 2017-09-19 4:15 GMT+02:00 Berty Tonta (Leadstalk) : >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-18 Thread Berty Tonta (Leadstalk)
My first short list of why people should go for FlexJS. Disclaimer: as a non-developer, I'm not sure if they really apply today to FlexJS and if there are more engaging features for developers. Would be great to have your confirmation. 1. Enterprise-class: for As3/Flex robust

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-18 Thread Olaf Krueger
Hi, an important thing for me is sustainability. Every day a new JS framework is born and another dies. Angular was written from scratch... all who have invested in Angular1 were lost. This is not suitable for the enterprise. My understanding is that FlexJS was built with the experience of over a

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-18 Thread Berty Tonta
Robust AS3 foundations > >> >>> > > >>- Multiplatform > >> >>> > > >>- Open Source > >> >>> > > >>- Security (I'm not a developer and need you to > >>confirm) > >> >>> > > >>- ... > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> WEAKNESSES > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >>- Association with Flash > >> >>> > > >>- Abandoned by Adobe??? > >> >>> > > >>- > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> OPPORTUNITIES > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >>- AS3/Flex a more robust/structured development platform > >> >>> > > >>- A potential enterprise class solution > >> >>> > > >>- Rebirth into an open source platform > >> >>> > > >>- Powered by the community > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> THREATS > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >>- Other "native" JS platforms > >> >>> > > >>- Potential to be rejected by pure JS/HTML5 developers > >> >>> > > >>- Perception of poor securityFlash legacy > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> Berty Tonta > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> LEADSTALK - 4 BENGALI STREET, BEAU BASSIN, MAURITIUS > >> >>> > > >> TEL +230 57 43 81 34 - berty.to...@leadstalk.pro - > >> >>>LEADSTALK.PRO > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:38 PM, gkk gb > >><modjkl...@comcast.net > >> > > >> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > In addition to... > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > "Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS > >>applications, > >> >>>and > >> >>> > not > >> >>> > > >>go > >> >>> > > >> > with a more mainstream option like e.g. > >>TypeScript/Angular?" > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > it may also be useful to think of the end customer. That > >>is, > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > "Why should a company prefer their app to be written in > >>FlexJS > >> >>> > rather > >> >>> > > >> than > >> >>> > > >> > ..." > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > The company will need to support their app throughout its > >> >>> lifecycle > >> >>> > by > >> >>> > > >> > hiring developers, etc, which, the further you go from > >> >>>mainstream > >> >>> > > >> > technologies, is harder to justify. There should be some > >> >>> compelling > >> >>> > > >> > business reason(s) to do so (faster development, etc.). > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > On September 14, 2017 at 6:38 AM Piotr Zarzycki < > >> >>> > > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > Hi All, > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > Erik on dev [1] list came up wit interesting > >>question. > >> >>>I'm > >> >>> > > >>posting > >> >>> > > >> > it also > >> >>> > > >> > > here: > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > With the upcoming fork and renewed focus and most > >>likely > >> >>> some > >> >>> > > >> > publicity, I > >> >>> > > >> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS > >> >>>applications, > >> >>> > and > >> >>> > > >> not > >> >>> > > >> > go > >> >>> > > >> > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. > >> >>>TypeScript/Angular? > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > I think that if we can answer that question in a > >> >>>compelling > >> >>> > > >>way, we > >> >>> > > >> > are in > >> >>> > > >> > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, > >>at > >> >>> least) > >> >>> > > >>and > >> >>> > > >> it > >> >>> > > >> > gives > >> >>> > > >> > > the marketing folks something to work with. > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > [1] > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > >> >>> > > http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl > >> >>> > > >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C% > >> >>> > > 7Cdab072253c474bc9c0dc08 > >> >>> > > >>d4fc6f3d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > >> >>> > > 7C63641100209603241 > >> >>> > > > >> >>>>>9=Z5wdmDlGuaDWy96FIy0Q4UaBCfOWAMctoTgATFbHIaY%3D=0. > >> >>> > > >> > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose- > >> >>> > FlexJS-td64292.html > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > Thanks, > >> >>> > > >> > > Piotr > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread 0xC3
I spend most of my time in embedded machine controllers, so c binaries would be nice. Honestly I don't have a preference right now because my customers are happy with AIR as their replacement for Flash Player, but as always the winds of change will bring a new thing and I will have to port to

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
t; > >>- ... >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> WEAKNESSES >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >>- Association with Flash >> >>> > > >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, Yes, we may target other output besides JS someday. Are there any you consider important? Thanks in advance, -Alex On 9/15/17, 3:24 PM, "0xC3" wrote: >To everybody we really do appreciate the hard work and accomplishments >made >by all involved. I really hope I did not

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Adam Malejko
>>> > > >>- Other "native" JS platforms > >>> > > >> - Potential to be rejected by pure JS/HTML5 developers > >>> > > >>- Perception of poor securityFlash legacy > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> Berty Tonta > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> LEADSTALK - 4 BENGALI STREET, BEAU BASSIN, MAURITIUS > >>> > > >> TEL +230 57 43 81 34 - berty.to...@leadstalk.pro - > >>>LEADSTALK.PRO > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:38 PM, gkk gb <modjkl...@comcast.net > > > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > In addition to... > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > "Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, > >>>and > >>> > not > >>> > > >>go > >>> > > >> > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular?" > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > it may also be useful to think of the end customer. That is, > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > "Why should a company prefer their app to be written in FlexJS > >>> > rather > >>> > > >> than > >>> > > >> > ..." > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > The company will need to support their app throughout its > >>> lifecycle > >>> > by > >>> > > >> > hiring developers, etc, which, the further you go from > >>>mainstream > >>> > > >> > technologies, is harder to justify. There should be some > >>> compelling > >>> > > >> > business reason(s) to do so (faster development, etc.). > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > On September 14, 2017 at 6:38 AM Piotr Zarzycki < > >>> > > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > Hi All, > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > Erik on dev [1] list came up wit interesting question. > >>>I'm > >>> > > >>posting > >>> > > >> > it also > >>> > > >> > > here: > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > With the upcoming fork and renewed focus and most likely > >>> some > >>> > > >> > publicity, I > >>> > > >> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS > >>>applications, > >>> > and > >>> > > >> not > >>> > > >> > go > >>> > > >> > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. > >>>TypeScript/Angular? > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > I think that if we can answer that question in a > >>>compelling > >>> > > >>way, we > >>> > > >> > are in > >>> > > >> > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at > >>> least) > >>> > > >>and > >>> > > >> it > >>> > > >> > gives > >>> > > >> > > the marketing folks something to work with. > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > [1] > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > >>> > > http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl > >>> > > >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C% > >>> > > 7Cdab072253c474bc9c0dc08 > >>> > > >>d4fc6f3d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > >>> > > 7C63641100209603241 > >>> > > > >>>>>9=Z5wdmDlGuaDWy96FIy0Q4UaBCfOWAMctoTgATFbHIaY%3D=0. > >>> > > >> > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose- > >>> > FlexJS-td64292.html > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > Thanks, > >>> > > >> > > Piotr > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > > >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread 0xC3
To everybody we really do appreciate the hard work and accomplishments made by all involved. I really hope I did not come off negative, I wanted to point to the amazing ability of knowing I could output to JS without having to know it, provided by everybody's hard work. Of course you would need

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
t;> >>> > > >> ________ >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> LEADSTALK - 4 BENGALI STREET, BEAU BASSIN, MAURITIUS >>> > > >> TEL +230 57 43 81 34 - berty.to...@leadstalk.pro - >>>LEADSTALK.PRO >>> > > >> >>> > > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:38 PM, gkk gb <modjkl...@comcast.net> >>> > wrote: >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > In addition to... >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > "Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, >>>and >>> > not >>> > > >>go >>> > > >> > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular?" >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > it may also be useful to think of the end customer. That is, >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > "Why should a company prefer their app to be written in FlexJS >>> > rather >>> > > >> than >>> > > >> > ..." >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > The company will need to support their app throughout its >>> lifecycle >>> > by >>> > > >> > hiring developers, etc, which, the further you go from >>>mainstream >>> > > >> > technologies, is harder to justify. There should be some >>> compelling >>> > > >> > business reason(s) to do so (faster development, etc.). >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > On September 14, 2017 at 6:38 AM Piotr Zarzycki < >>> > > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > Hi All, >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > Erik on dev [1] list came up wit interesting question. >>>I'm >>> > > >>posting >>> > > >> > it also >>> > > >> > > here: >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > With the upcoming fork and renewed focus and most likely >>> some >>> > > >> > publicity, I >>> > > >> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS >>>applications, >>> > and >>> > > >> not >>> > > >> > go >>> > > >> > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. >>>TypeScript/Angular? >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > I think that if we can answer that question in a >>>compelling >>> > > >>way, we >>> > > >> > are in >>> > > >> > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at >>> least) >>> > > >>and >>> > > >> it >>> > > >> > gives >>> > > >> > > the marketing folks something to work with. >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > [1] >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >>> > > http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl >>> > > >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C% >>> > > 7Cdab072253c474bc9c0dc08 >>> > > >>d4fc6f3d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >>> > > 7C63641100209603241 >>> > > >>>>>9=Z5wdmDlGuaDWy96FIy0Q4UaBCfOWAMctoTgATFbHIaY%3D=0. >>> > > >> > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose- >>> > FlexJS-td64292.html >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > Thanks, >>> > > >> > > Piotr >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
t; >> > "Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, >>and >> > not >> > > >>go >> > > >> > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular?" >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > it may also be useful to think of the end customer. That is, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > "Why should a company prefer their app to be written in FlexJS >> > rather >> > > >> than >> > > >> > ..." >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > The company will need to support their app throughout its >> lifecycle >> > by >> > > >> > hiring developers, etc, which, the further you go from >>mainstream >> > > >> > technologies, is harder to justify. There should be some >> compelling >> > > >> > business reason(s) to do so (faster development, etc.). >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On September 14, 2017 at 6:38 AM Piotr Zarzycki < >> > > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hi All, >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Erik on dev [1] list came up wit interesting question. >>I'm >> > > >>posting >> > > >> > it also >> > > >> > > here: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > With the upcoming fork and renewed focus and most likely >> some >> > > >> > publicity, I >> > > >> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS >>applications, >> > and >> > > >> not >> > > >> > go >> > > >> > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. >>TypeScript/Angular? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I think that if we can answer that question in a >>compelling >> > > >>way, we >> > > >> > are in >> > > >> > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at >> least) >> > > >>and >> > > >> it >> > > >> > gives >> > > >> > > the marketing folks something to work with. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > [1] >> > > >> > > >> > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> > > http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl >> > > >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C% >> > > 7Cdab072253c474bc9c0dc08 >> > > >>d4fc6f3d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> > > 7C63641100209603241 >> > > >>9=Z5wdmDlGuaDWy96FIy0Q4UaBCfOWAMctoTgATFbHIaY%3D=0. >> > > >> > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose- >> > FlexJS-td64292.html >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > Piotr >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >>

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Adam Malejko
gt; > > > > >> > "Why should a company prefer their app to be written in FlexJS > > rather > > > >> than > > > >> > ..." > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > The company will need to support their app throughout its > lifecycle > > by > > > >> > hiring developers, etc, which, the further you go from mainstream > > > >> > technologies, is harder to justify. There should be some > compelling > > > >> > business reason(s) to do so (faster development, etc.). > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On September 14, 2017 at 6:38 AM Piotr Zarzycki < > > > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hi All, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Erik on dev [1] list came up wit interesting question. I'm > > > >>posting > > > >> > it also > > > >> > > here: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > With the upcoming fork and renewed focus and most likely > some > > > >> > publicity, I > > > >> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, > > and > > > >> not > > > >> > go > > > >> > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I think that if we can answer that question in a compelling > > > >>way, we > > > >> > are in > > > >> > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at > least) > > > >>and > > > >> it > > > >> > gives > > > >> > > the marketing folks something to work with. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > [1] > > > >> > > > > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl > > > >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C% > > > 7Cdab072253c474bc9c0dc08 > > > >>d4fc6f3d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > > 7C63641100209603241 > > > >>9=Z5wdmDlGuaDWy96FIy0Q4UaBCfOWAMctoTgATFbHIaY%3D=0. > > > >> > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose- > > FlexJS-td64292.html > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Thanks, > > > >> > > Piotr > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
s harder to justify. There should be some compelling > > >> > business reason(s) to do so (faster development, etc.). > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > On September 14, 2017 at 6:38 AM Piotr Zarzycki < > > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Hi All, > > >> > > > > >> > > Erik on dev [1] list came up wit interesting question. I'm > > >>posting > > >> > it also > > >> > > here: > > >> > > > > >> > > With the upcoming fork and renewed focus and most likely some > > >> > publicity, I > > >> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: > > >> > > > > >> > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, > and > > >> not > > >> > go > > >> > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular? > > >> > > > > >> > > I think that if we can answer that question in a compelling > > >>way, we > > >> > are in > > >> > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at least) > > >>and > > >> it > > >> > gives > > >> > > the marketing folks something to work with. > > >> > > > > >> > > [1] > > >> > > > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl > > >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C% > > 7Cdab072253c474bc9c0dc08 > > >>d4fc6f3d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > 7C63641100209603241 > > >>9=Z5wdmDlGuaDWy96FIy0Q4UaBCfOWAMctoTgATFbHIaY%3D=0. > > >> > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose- > FlexJS-td64292.html > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks, > > >> > > Piotr > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, Thanks for your history and thoughts. I think we agree that FlexJS or whatever we call it is trying to hide the bad parts of JS and improve developer productivity by letting you use declarative and structured languages from a single provider. I may have misunderstood your point about the

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Adam Malejko
ycki < > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Hi All, > >> > > > >> > > Erik on dev [1] list came up wit interesting question. I'm > >>posting > >> > it also > >> > > here: > >> > > > >> > > With the upcoming fork and renewed focus and most likely some > >> > publicity, I > >> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: > >> > > > >> > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, and > >> not > >> > go > >> > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular? > >> > > > >> > > I think that if we can answer that question in a compelling > >>way, we > >> > are in > >> > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at least) > >>and > >> it > >> > gives > >> > > the marketing folks something to work with. > >> > > > >> > > [1] > >> > > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl > >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C% > 7Cdab072253c474bc9c0dc08 > >>d4fc6f3d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > 7C63641100209603241 > >>9=Z5wdmDlGuaDWy96FIy0Q4UaBCfOWAMctoTgATFbHIaY%3D=0. > >> > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose-FlexJS-td64292.html > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > >> > > Piotr > >> > > > >> > > >> > >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread 0xC3
Hi, I haven't posted before (more of a lurker) however I am a log time user of Flex and I may be slightly off topic here, but I think it applies (specifically to the idea of forking). Here we make hardware and needed some way to display the information, we started using Flash around 2004,

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
likely some >> > publicity, I >> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: >> > > >> > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, and >> not >> > go >> > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular? >> > > >> > > I think that if we can answer that question in a compelling >>way, we >> > are in >> > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at least) >>and >> it >> > gives >> > > the marketing folks something to work with. >> > > >> > > [1] >> > > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C%7Cdab072253c474bc9c0dc08 >>d4fc6f3d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63641100209603241 >>9=Z5wdmDlGuaDWy96FIy0Q4UaBCfOWAMctoTgATFbHIaY%3D=0. >> > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose-FlexJS-td64292.html >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Piotr >> > > >> > >>

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Adam Malejko
> > > want to ask the community to answer this question: > > > > > > Why should a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, and > not > > go > > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular? > > > > > > I think that if we can answer that question in a compelling way, we > > are in > > > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at least) and > it > > gives > > > the marketing folks something to work with. > > > > > > [1] > > > http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble. > > com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose-FlexJS-td64292.html > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Piotr > > > > > >

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Carlos Rovira
k on dev [1] list came up wit interesting question. I'm posting > >> it also > >> > here: > >> > > >> > With the upcoming fork and renewed focus and most likely some > >> publicity, I > >> > want to ask the community to answer this question: > &

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
write JS applications, and >>not >> go >> > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular? >> > >> > I think that if we can answer that question in a compelling way, >>we >> are in >> > a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at least) and >>it >> gives >> > the marketing folks something to work with. >> > >> > [1] >> > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-fl >>ex-development.247.n4.nabble=02%7C01%7C%7Cf6e78ad817e14216650308 >>d4fbff5317%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63641052141052364 >>9=IVc0uuvzVjWhJZbIsmRfIVlRV9SSqoAvP%2BJPRIHwXnw%3D=0. >> com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose-FlexJS-td64292.html >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Piotr >> > >>

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-15 Thread Berty Tonta (Leadstalk)
a web dev choose FlexJS to write JS applications, and not > go > > with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular? > > > > I think that if we can answer that question in a compelling way, we > are in > > a good place as a project (from a code persp

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-14 Thread Peter Ent
I think you also need to include folks who would choose to use React over TypeScript/Angular and other things. React seems very popular to me and offers a similar experience to Flex in that you have class files that combine presentation and code (like MXML) or just plain code. Plus it is a gateway

Re: [FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-14 Thread Harbs
d not go >> with a more mainstream option like e.g. TypeScript/Angular? >> >> I think that if we can answer that question in a compelling way, we are in >> a good place as a project (from a code perspective, at least) and it gives >> the marketing folks something to work with. >> >> >> [1] >> http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why- >> should-a-web-dev-choose-FlexJS-td64292.html >> >> Thanks, >> Piotr >>

[FLEXJS][Marketing] why should a web dev choose FlexJS?

2017-09-14 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
.nabble.com/FLEXJS-Marketing-why-should-a-web-dev-choose-FlexJS-td64292.html Thanks, Piotr