Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.02.2013 07:29, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > On 02/01/2013 01:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 01.02.2013 01:35, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: >>> Reading is not done letter by letter or word by >>> word, but in larger units, and every time I see 'i' >>> instead of 'I', it interrupts my trai

Re: recommendations for SSD drive as first disk for fedora 18?

2013-02-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 01/31/2013 05:05 PM, Sergio Augusto Vladisauskis wrote: > > How to maximise SSD performance with Linux: > http://apcmag.com/how-to-maximise-ssd-performance-with-linux.htm A better title would have been: "How to have a SSD and not use it". It explains how to not use it for swap, tmp files, l

Re: webcam Sweex WC250 HD not working under fedora 18

2013-02-01 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi Alain, What is the output of $ lsusb on the terminal? Greetings, -- Jorge Martínez López http://www.jorgeml.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedo

Re: webcam Sweex WC250 HD not working under fedora 18

2013-02-01 Thread Raf Roger
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jorge Martínez López wrote: > Hi Alain, > > What is the output of > > $ lsusb > > on the terminal? > > Greetings, > > -- > Jorge Martínez López http://www.jorgeml.net > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:32:47 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 15:12 +1030, Tim wrote: > > The misuse of "loose" and "lose" bugs me the most, second is > > probably "dose" instead of "does." > > I'm with you there. Also the confusion between "choose" and "chose". Also your

Re: webcam Sweex WC250 HD not working under fedora 18

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick Lists
On 02/01/2013 11:43 AM, Raf Roger wrote: [snip] here it is: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 177f:0250 Sweex [snip] as you can see it is detected as device 003 :-) On the UVC device driver website only the Sweex WX060 is mentioned. Did you try manually inserting the uvc kernel module (and make sure no

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread g
On 02/01/2013 05:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: <> > This list is better off without the grammar, spelling, and style police. > If you can't figure out what someone is saying then "you" should not > feel obliged to read it or answer it. thank you. i could not agree with you more. there are way too man

Re: Disabling SlowKeys?

2013-02-01 Thread Tethys
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:47 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > The only "solution" I've found for this (other than hacking that feature > out of X ;) is to put this in my .xsession: > > xkbset sl 1 > > This doesn't disable slow keys, but sets slow keys at the fastest > possible timeout so that the keyboard

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Ian Malone
On 31 January 2013 23:37, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:55:08 + > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Just out of interest, why do some people use the non-existent word >> "i", not to mention other violations of capitalization rules when 1) >> their Shift key is clearly not broken

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 February 2013 00:27, Dan Thurman wrote: > On 01/31/2013 07:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Way way OT: >> >> Just out of interest, why do some people use the non-existent word "i", >> poc > Maybe Apple started it? ;) In that case anyone doing it probably owes royalties. The mailing lis

GTK3 themes not working on Fedora 18?

2013-02-01 Thread Andre Costa
Hi, no matter how many GTK3 themes I install, gnome-tweak-tool only shows me "Adwaita" and "High Contrast" as options for the "Gtk+ Theme" combo on the Theme panel. Any advice? Right now I have these installed: ~ rpm -qa \*gtk3-theme\* greybird-gtk3-theme-1.0.7-1.fc18.noarch egtk-gtk3-theme-3.1-

Re: F18 : from iptables to firewalld

2013-02-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/31/2013 06:04 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:45:07 +0100 Reindl Harald > wrote: > >> >> >> Am 31.01.2013 22:04, schrieb Ranjan Maitra: >>> Jan 31 15:01:35 localhost systemd[1]: Failed to start firewalld - >>> dynamic firewa

Re: GTK3 themes not working on Fedora 18?

2013-02-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:29:19 -0200 Andre Costa wrote: > no matter how many GTK3 themes I install, gnome-tweak-tool only shows me > "Adwaita" and "High Contrast" as options for the "Gtk+ Theme" combo on the > Theme panel. Any advice? Sounds like a gnome-tweak-tool problem. I was just experimenting

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Lailah
El jue, 31-01-2013 a las 16:46 +0100, Ralf Corsepius escribió: > On 01/31/2013 04:44 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > > On 01/27/2013 06:15 PM, Lailah wrote: > >> El vie, 25-01-2013 a las 22:40 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik escribió: > >>> Joe Zeff wrote: > >>> > On 01/25/2013 12:46 PM, James Freer w

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 23:14 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/31/2013 08:42 PM, Tim wrote: > > The misuse of "loose" and "lose" bugs me the most, second is probably > > "dose" instead of "does." But seeing someone type in all-caps tends to > > be far more annoying that someone posting in all-lower-ca

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 23:19 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/31/2013 09:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I know you could care less, but she sees your posts as being indirectly > > critical of her, her background, and her education. I would tell you what > > she said, but it doesn't translate well in

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 01.02.2013 07:29, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > > On 02/01/2013 01:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >> Am 01.02.2013 01:35, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > >>> Reading is not done letter by letter or word by > >>> word, but in larger unit

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.02.2013 14:37, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 01.02.2013 07:29, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: >>> On 02/01/2013 01:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.02.2013 01:35, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > Reading is not done let

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 11:16 +, g wrote: > On 02/01/2013 05:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > <> > > This list is better off without the grammar, spelling, and style police. > > If you can't figure out what someone is saying then "you" should not > > feel obliged to read it or answer it. > > thank you

Re: GTK3 themes not working on Fedora 18?

2013-02-01 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 02/01/2013 10:29 AM, Andre Costa wrote: Hi, no matter how many GTK3 themes I install, gnome-tweak-tool only shows me "Adwaita" and "High Contrast" as options for the "Gtk+ Theme" combo on the Theme panel. Any advice? Right now I have these installed: ~ rpm -qa \*gtk3-theme\* greybird-gtk3-t

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:41 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 01.02.2013 14:37, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >> Am 01.02.2013 07:29, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > >>> On 02/01/2013 01:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 01.02

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/01/2013 12:59 PM, Lailah wrote: El jue, 31-01-2013 a las 16:46 +0100, Ralf Corsepius escribió: I'd guess, it's people being dissatisfied with what they are used to, now being on a "quest for the better". That said, from what I've heard and read, Ubuntu is in a similar crisis as Fedor

Re: f18: compiz, "initial package for f18", and Gnome3

2013-02-01 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno gio, 31/01/2013 alle 11.08 -0800, Joe Zeff ha scritto: > I used a lot of the eye candy, including the desktop cube, on my > laptop. which Fedora version and D.E. you use compiz? Thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora18+Gnome3) -- users mailing li

Re: Disabling SlowKeys?

2013-02-01 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 08:31:45PM +, Tethys wrote: > I, along with many others, have a frequent annoyance where SlowKeys > gets enabled in the X server. Yes, I can work around it by holding > down a shift key to turn it off again. This is "supposed" to work, but so far I haven't been successf

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Oliver
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Harald, you're in error. Many German speaking people consider style of writing you are using here, to be rude, disrespectful and childish - I am one of these fine that i work with people for which is content more important than style - the other way

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.02.2013 15:21, schrieb Bill Oliver: > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> Harald, you're in error. Many German speaking people consider style of >>> writing you are using here, to be rude, >>> disrespectful and childish - I am one of these >> >> fine that i work with people for

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Oliver
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Ralf Corsepius wrote: [snip] Well, based on my short experiments with Unity and my failed attempts with Gnome 3, I don't like both. Both are similar, both are based on the same GUI-ideas. If I only had a choice between these 2, I'd choose Unity. Ralf I think it's a fu

Re: GTK3 themes not working on Fedora 18?

2013-02-01 Thread Brian Millett
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:46:13 -0200 "Germán A. Racca" wrote: > On 02/01/2013 10:29 AM, Andre Costa wrote: > > Hi, > > > > no matter how many GTK3 themes I install, gnome-tweak-tool only shows me > > "Adwaita" and "High Contrast" as options for the "Gtk+ Theme" combo on > > the Theme panel. Any adv

Re: Disabling SlowKeys?

2013-02-01 Thread Tethys
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > This is "supposed" to work, but so far I haven't been successful. > > $ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard slowkeys-enable false It doesn't work for me either. I know nothing about gsettings, but I suspect the reason it's not working

Re: GTK3 themes not working on Fedora 18?

2013-02-01 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 02/01/2013 12:44 PM, Brian Millett wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:46:13 -0200 "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 02/01/2013 10:29 AM, Andre Costa wrote: Hi, no matter how many GTK3 themes I install, gnome-tweak-tool only shows me "Adwaita" and "High Contrast" as options for the "Gtk+ Theme" combo

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.02.2013 15:41, schrieb Bill Oliver: > Now we have all these shiny distros with bells, whistles, flashing lights, > and automatic configuration tools that > do all this stuff for us in an entertaining manner. We have reorganized > things to make it easy for the > configuration tools in a

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Oliver
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.02.2013 15:21, schrieb Bill Oliver: On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Harald, you're in error. Many German speaking people consider style of writing you are using here, to be rude, disrespectful and childish - I am one of these fine

f18+gnome3: touchpad setting "Disable while typing" does not work anymore

2013-02-01 Thread Dario Lesca
After update f17 to f18 the touchpad setting "Disable while typing" does not work anymore. Someone can help me to debug why and resolve this annoying bugs? Many thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora18+Gnome3) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: f18+gnome3: touchpad setting "Disable while typing" does not work anymore

2013-02-01 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno ven, 01/02/2013 alle 16.36 +0100, Dario Lesca ha scritto: > After update f17 to f18 the touchpad setting "Disable while typing" does > not work anymore. > > Someone can help me to debug why and resolve this annoying bugs? > > Many thanks I have found this suggest: http://forums.fedoraf

Re: firewalld v. libvirtd

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Locke
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 10:34 +, Jorge Martínez López wrote: > Hi Rob: > > 2013/1/28 Robert Locke > > > > I would like to associate the virbr0 interface, created by libvirtd, to > > be considered part of the "internal" zone, since I "trust" my own VMs > > talking to the host. But, what is the

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread g
On 02/01/2013 01:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 11:16 +, g wrote: <> >> there are way too many on this list that live such a life that they do >> not believe that their way is the only way to do things. > > You might want to re-parse that. most true. ;) } there are

Writing Music to a DVD instead of CD

2013-02-01 Thread Jim
Fedora 17 How can I write a Music format to a DVD instead of CD . I have to many Songs to write a CD. Can K3B or Brasero do the job -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guideli

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Eddie O'Connor
I do hope you realize I was being sarcastic?I was trying to point out that some people's definition of "cool" was whatever and whomever was in the lime light at the momentsorry if you took it seriously.t'wasnt my intention On Jan 31, 2013 4:38 PM, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > On 01/31/2013

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 05:35 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Love it (though it's "would", not "will" :-) Yes. Of course. I should have realized that. However, I'm glad to see that at least one person on this list knew the reference. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/31/2013 08:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > >> I cannot understand why so many people were up in arms about the Gnome >> desktop...or the Unity one. >> > > Try watching somebody with Parkinson's try to use either of them and > you'll

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 05:48 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: What's the problem? I merely used the conventions of ancient Greek and Roman writing (though strictly speaking I should have put it all in upper case), and you clearly understood it. Isn't the content more important than the style? If you reall

Re: f18: compiz, "initial package for f18", and Gnome3

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 06:04 AM, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno gio, 31/01/2013 alle 11.08 -0800, Joe Zeff ha scritto: I used a lot of the eye candy, including the desktop cube, on my laptop. which Fedora version and D.E. you use compiz? This was on F 14 with Gnome 2 and later with Xfce. Yes, that wa

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 06:41 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: And it will approach 1 for *any* such distro. Changing distros doesn't help this problem, unless you go to one of the minimal distros that are still oriented towards simplified manual configuration (if there is such a one nowadays). AIUI, Slackware p

Re: WiFi permanently disappeared after booting test kernel [SOLVED]

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mike Fleetwood wrote: On 31 January 2013 23:34, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/01/2013 06:19 AM, Mike Fleetwood wrote: Hi, On my netbook I booted a test kernel 3.8.0-rc4+ I compiled. Now after booting back into my regular Fedora kernel 3.6.11-5.fc17.i686.PAE my wifi network device remains permanent

Re: Need Help - .CD/DVD ROM Drive Not Seen By OS.....

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: I know this is a Fedora-oriented community mailing list, but seeing as how I don't have "access" to another distro's "support network" I figured I would ask here and hope for the best. Here's the scenario: I recently downloaded and burned to DVD the .iso file for a c

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.02.2013 19:34, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 02/01/2013 06:41 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: >> >> And it will approach 1 for *any* such distro. Changing distros doesn't >> help this problem, unless you go to one of the minimal distros that are >> still oriented towards simplified manual configuration (i

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/01/2013 05:48 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> What's the problem? I merely used the conventions of ancient Greek and >> Roman writing (though strictly speaking I should have put it all in >> upper case), and you clearly understood it. Is

Re: Need Help - .CD/DVD ROM Drive Not Seen By OS.....

2013-02-01 Thread Eddie O'Connor
SorryI was under the impression that you never "named" another distro on a different mailing listthe distro is Red Hat Enterprise Linux..I downloaded the ISO from a mirror site and assumed it would install just like Scientific /CEntOS.but its totally differentI guess if the only

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Doug
On 02/01/2013 01:14 PM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: /snip/ As far as Sarah Palin goes, my impression was that people liked her because she wasn't ashamed of her opinions and she never pretended to be anything except what she was. Calling Mit Romney an ignoramus only shows that you di

Re: WiFi permanently disappeared after booting test kernel [SOLVED]

2013-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 13:43:39 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Don't be dismayed, that's why it's useful. It really keeps the driver from being loaded, and that's a good thing. Why do you want this? Because Fedora doesn't work as shipped with the majority of wireless adaptors, who's vendors

Re: Need Help - .CD/DVD ROM Drive Not Seen By OS.....

2013-02-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.02.2013 20:14, schrieb Eddie O'Connor: > SorryI was under the impression that you never "named" another > distro on a different mailing list if you break the rule not ask questions of a different distro on a specific list you have to name it as you have always to mention waht abou

Re: [SOLVED] GTK3 themes not working on Fedora 18?

2013-02-01 Thread Andre Costa
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:29:19 -0200 > Andre Costa wrote: > > > no matter how many GTK3 themes I install, gnome-tweak-tool only shows me > > "Adwaita" and "High Contrast" as options for the "Gtk+ Theme" combo on > the > > Theme panel. Any advice?

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 10:14 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: I do hope you realize I was being sarcastic?I was trying to point out that some people's definition of "cool" was whatever and whomever was in the lime light at the momentsorry if you took it seriously.t'wasnt my intention It's often

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 10:21 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Also you can install the following extension to determine which app gets launched automatically in which specific workspace. *Shrug!* I prefer a DE where you don't have to hunt down and install third-party extensions to get back the functionality

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 11:10 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: there are even command-line tools suggested to replace well known ones with completly different switches this is not how a replacement works You know that, I know that and most of the people on this list (if not all) know that. Alas, there are alwa

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > *Shrug!* I prefer a DE where you don't have to hunt down and install > third-party extensions to get back the functionality that was taken for > granted in an earlier version. YMMV, and obviously does. Dynamic workspaces weren't part of t

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 11:13 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As the ox ploughs IIRC (or plows if you prefer). I don't know if there are any examples of the Romans using that, and the Greeks only did it sometimes, probably to annoy people on mailing lists :-) Very good! And yes, AFAIK the Romans didn't

Re: Need Help - .CD/DVD ROM Drive Not Seen By OS.....

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 11:14 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: SorryI was under the impression that you never "named" another distro on a different mailing list Why not? We've often mentioned Ubuntu here and I think I've mentioned Puppy once or twice. Mentioning them is fine, even recommending them for

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 11:18 AM, Doug wrote: I don't think people liked Sarah Palin. I think if McCain had picked someone that wasn't perceived as a bimbo, he would have won the election. As it was, not only were the people afraid of him dying and leaving her in charge, but it also reflected on his judgme

Re: Writing Music to a DVD instead of CD

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jim wrote: Fedora 17 How can I write a Music format to a DVD instead of CD . I have to many Songs to write a CD. Can K3B or Brasero do the job Sorry, this is going to be a long answer, which you probably won't like. First, what are you going to use to play this disk? Do you have a player

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > As an example, does anybody reading this know what I mean by "an identical > cousin?" Not I, but then I'm only 63. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 12:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: If you don't want to use GNOME 3 at all, that's fine but static workspaces aren't the reason to stay away. True. They're just one of the many reasons I migrated away from Gnome even before Gnome 3 came out. The lack of built-in configuration too

Re: Need Help - .CD/DVD ROM Drive Not Seen By OS.....

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Eddie O'Connor wrote: SorryI was under the impression that you never "named" another distro on a different mailing listthe distro is Red Hat Enterprise Linux..I downloaded the ISO from a mirror site and assumed it would install just like Scientific /CEntOS.but its totally differen

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 01:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Joe Zeff mailto:j...@zeff.us>> wrote: As an example, does anybody reading this know what I mean by "an identical cousin?" Not I, but then I'm only 63. poc So am I. Follow this link and try not to ki

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 13:19 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/01/2013 01:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Joe Zeff > > wrote: > > > > As an example, does anybody reading this know what I mean by "an > > identical cousin?" > > > > >

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Eddie O'Connor
I do!LoL! On Feb 1, 2013 3:26 PM, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > On 02/01/2013 11:13 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> >> As the ox ploughs IIRC (or plows if you prefer). I don't know if there >> are any examples of the Romans using that, and the Greeks only did it >> sometimes, probably to annoy peop

Re: Need Help - .CD/DVD ROM Drive Not Seen By OS.....

2013-02-01 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
Well in that case I was talking about Red Hat Enterprise Linux Sent from Eddie's Cell Phone - Reply message - From: "Joe Zeff" To: "Community support for Fedora users" Subject: Need Help - .CD/DVD ROM Drive Not Seen By OS. Date: Fri, Feb 1, 2013 3:29 pm On 02/01/2013 11:14 AM,

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I see you are prey to the misconception that I am familiar with the history of US sitcoms. While I've seen several of them, not being American myself I can't say I know this one. I wasn't aware that you aren't an American, and I don't know how

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > And, on a more international note, if somebody just mentions "the war," > which war do you think of first? I think that for most people it depends > on their age because they'll think of either the first one in their > lifetime or the first one t

Re: WiFi permanently disappeared after booting test kernel [SOLVED]

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 13:43:39 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Don't be dismayed, that's why it's useful. It really keeps the driver from being loaded, and that's a good thing. Why do you want this? Because Fedora doesn't work as shipped with the majority of wireless a

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Antonio Olivares
> And, on a more international note, if somebody just mentions "the war," > which war do you think of first? War on Drugs! War between the States!(Civil War) War of 1812! Spanish American War(1898--??) War (WWI, WW2), Korea(which was not a war BTW), VietNam(also not a war), Iraq(1990, ...)

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread David G . Miller
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > As an example, does anybody reading > this know what I mean by "an identical cousin?" Yes and now I have the d**n jingle from the show going through my head "but they're cousins, identical cousins..." AAGGH! Cheers, Dave -- use

Re: AD authentication

2013-02-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 04:36 PM, arag...@dcsnow.com wrote: > Hi, > > I've just setup a pair of Fedora 18 boxes that I could use some > help with getting them to join the active directory domain we have > at work (2008 I think). What I would like is for users

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > If I wanted a DE with One True Way to do things and no easy way to change it, I might as well be using Windows. The defaults are simple but GNOME Shell UI is actually extremely customizable. The entire UI is just scriptable widgets, With e

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 03:32 PM, David G. Miller wrote: Yes and now I have the d**n jingle from the show going through my head "but they're cousins, identical cousins..." Just to make it even more fun, the Wikpedia article mentions that there was a third one: a distant cousin from Georgia that show

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 03:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: The defaults are simple but GNOME Shell UI is actually extremely customizable. The entire UI is just scriptable widgets, With extensions you can modify anything you want. It even has a javascript debugger built-in. It is pretty similar to Firefox

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Then, people started writing extensions to allow you to change bits and > pieces of this, but the Gnome devs were adamant that they weren't going to > fold any of them into Gnome Shell, no matter how popular they were, and > that they wouldn'

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 04:33 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: The evidence is to the contrary. They have supported the framework that made these extensions possible in the first place and they certainly made some efforts to define the API better to avoid breakages. I sit corrected, then. However, I've been t

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 00:35 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 13:44 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 15:07 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 01/31/2013 12:52 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:55:08 + > > > > Patrick O'Callagh

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 05:58 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > This list is better off without the grammar, spelling, and style > > police. If you can't figure out what someone is saying then "you" > > should not feel obliged to read it or answer it. > > You seem to be taking this way too seri

Re: OT Web servers and ISP -and Rails

2013-02-01 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:19 +1100, Roger wrote: > Thanks Phil > >> I have run into a gotcha with the ISP which will not provide Rails 3 on > >> a shared server. > >> Can someone please enlighten me as to why not. What are the problems? > >> > >> Apologies for OT but google so far doesn't help. > >

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/01/2013 04:52 PM, Craig White wrote: It's clear that you want this e-mail list, informal as it is to respect your sense of proper grammar. No, it's not "his sense of proper grammar," it's proper grammar as it's been taught in schools in every English speaking country for over a century

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread doug
On 02/01/2013 07:52 PM, Craig White wrote: /snip/ Reminds me of a book that I bought that looked interesting... "Eats Shoots & Leaves by Lynn Truss." It was about the need for things like punctuation to clarify the intent of something. In the end, the author includes a number of self adhesive

Re: WiFi permanently disappeared after booting test kernel [SOLVED]

2013-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:30:54 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: If I had a working wifi driver I could do that, but then I wouldn't need to do that. If rpmfusion could put the drivers for the kernel on the Live-CD and Install DVD, which are not the same as are in "updates" (current) kernels, a

Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?

2013-02-01 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 17:16 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/01/2013 04:52 PM, Craig White wrote: > > It's clear that you want this e-mail list, informal as it is to respect > > your sense of proper grammar. > > No, it's not "his sense of proper grammar," it's proper grammar as it's > been taught i

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > However, I've been told several times that the Gnome devs had warned > people that they'd make no effort to avoid breaking extensions and hadn't > heard otherwise. > I think an unfortunate reality of this list, is that it has many people who

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-02-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:05:09 -0500 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > > However, I've been told several times that the Gnome devs had warned > > people that they'd make no effort to avoid breaking extensions and hadn't > > heard otherwise. >

Re: pipelining configuration settings

2013-02-01 Thread g
On 02/02/2013 12:26 AM, The Wanderer wrote: <> > There *is* such a button, or at least a toggle of other form; it's called > "Allow scripts globally". It can be accessed from the "S"-icon menu, or as > a checkbox in the NoScript options. It's marked as "dangerous". to me, a *button* is a selecti

Re: pipelining configuration settings

2013-02-01 Thread g
On 02/02/2013 03:54 AM, g wrote: <> yep. it happened again. what is really strange this time, my saved copy of what i sent is addressed; To: mozilla firefox support so why it happened, i do not know. what is even stranger, i do not have any email copies with this date/time stamp. again, m

f18 replacement for KEYTABLE, SYSFONT?

2013-02-01 Thread Michael Hannon
Greetings.  I just did a "fedup" upgrade from f17 to f18.  The system is now up and running, mostly just fine, but I did notice a brief warning message during boot to the effect that KEYTABLE is deprecated. I've seen some mention of this on the web, and it appears that a solution MIGHT be to repla

Tint2 - panel/task bar

2013-02-01 Thread Raf Roger
Hi, 2 days ago i installed tint2 on my fedora 2. I put it as startup application via gnome-session-properties. for an unknown reason, today morning when my computer started, tint2 was not anymore among startup applications and therefore didn't start at fedora boot :( have you already had somethin