Re: [SOLVED] Re: F27: Grub2 hosed; request rescue help

2018-03-14 Thread fred roller
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Max Pyziur wrote: > > >> Greetings, >> >> While doing an upgrade on a non-critical laptop, including a kernel >> upgrade, the machine froze. >> >> Rebooting brought information to the effect that no boot

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 07:38 PM, William Mattison wrote: I saved that [etc.] That does work. Good, so that means that Thunderbird does eventually get the whole intact message and can read it. ... Try closing ... cough gag cough cough choke gag cough On March 06, I started a thread titled

Re: Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/14/2018 03:20 PM, Raman Gupta wrote: 1) It seems the networking is not quite as straightforward as VMWare for a single-VM use case. It can be.  If you want to used bridged networking, you have to create a bridge in Linux.  KVM doesn't handle that internally (which is to say, it

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
> I saved that [etc.] That does work. > ... Try closing ... cough gag cough cough choke gag cough On March 06, I started a thread titled "Thunderbird issue (OT).". I never saw any replies. The problem remains completely unsolved. Actually, it's now worse! I've experienced that

Re: Starting programs when no internet connection is available

2018-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/14/2018 07:14 PM, Tim wrote: Joe Zeff: Considering that not all computers use DHCP, NETWORK_LOCAL should probably include pinging the gateway but probably doesn't. That still wouldn't prove the internet is accessible. My ISP could be failing, or suspended my account, or the cable

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Tim
Zachary Snyder: >> To be fair, in the next email, if you read it, he apologized and >> said that it was a mistake. Joe Zeff: > Yes, but I read my email in the order received, no threading, and > reply as I read. I've been doing that for about thirty years now, > and have no interest in

Re: What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread fred roller
> I always use calibre. +1 -- Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Starting programs when no internet connection is available

2018-03-14 Thread Tim
Samuel Sieb wrote: >> NetworkManager has a few different states of connected. There are >> at least NETWORK_LOCAL which seems to mean it has an IP address and >> NETWORK_GLOBAL which means it has internet access. There might >> another one in between as well. Joe Zeff: > Considering that not

/etc/nsswitch.conf

2018-03-14 Thread Tim
Just looking at my nsswitch file (an abbreviated version below), as it was configured by the installation (and not modified by me), surely that NOTFOUND bit jammed in the middle should be further to the right? (Especially in my case, since I have a local DNS server that resolves all the LAN

Re: Is there a way to get something into a Fedora How To list?

2018-03-14 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 14 March 2018, ToddAndMargo sent: > This is my doing: > > https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/how-to-set-up-your-scanner-to-work-with-sane-and-pdf-studio-under-fedora-27-linuxs-systemd/ Tangential question: If that's necessary to get it working, why doesn't sane (and/or pdf

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 04:57 PM, William Mattison wrote: ok, I figured out how to get the message into the Fedora paste site. It can be viewed here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LvQNrf-2pwpvnXbWWxOmow;. I saved that to a file and Thunderbird opened it with no problem. Try that yourself.

Re: No network on first try

2018-03-14 Thread toddandmargo
Perhaps "ONBOOT" is disabled? Would you send us /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eno1 ? On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:49:37 -0700 Martin Wagner wrote >I've got a Fedora 27 desktop that has a slight network problem. > >I'm using VPN and I used nm-connection-editor to configure it so

Re: Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 04:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I do that literally every day, for Windows gaming. It took some effort to set up but it works a treat. A good starting point is: https://vfio.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/vfio-gpu-how-to-series-part-1-hardware.html Also the VFIO mailing list at

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
ok, I figured out how to get the message into the Fedora paste site. It can be viewed here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LvQNrf-2pwpvnXbWWxOmow;. thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 04:43 PM, William Mattison wrote: I saved the "View source" window contents as a text file. What is now the best way to get that file onto Fedora's paste bin? Last time I tried that (last summer), it didn't work well. Making the whole message available might be better than me

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
I saved the "View source" window contents as a text file. What is now the best way to get that file onto Fedora's paste bin? Last time I tried that (last summer), it didn't work well. Making the whole message available might be better than me trying to guess what would be helpful in

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
Patrick, I am using the "fedora HYPERKITTY" web interface for all my posts to this thread. But the e-mail address for my Fedora users list is a yahoo e-mail address. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 23:09:25 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Calibre is the go-to package for all your ebook needs, including format > conversion, library maintenance, etc. And the really important bit is that you can get calibre plugins to strip DRM from books so you are no longer forced to

Re: Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 18:51 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:20:07 - > Raman Gupta wrote: > > > Running in the default NAT mode > > I always use the "bridge" networking. That way the KVM looks > like just another machine on my local network, gets an IP from > the DHCP on my

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 02:51 PM, William Mattison wrote: The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you view source do you see the message body? yes. In "View source", I see 759 lines of stuff. But most looks like "meta-data", not message body that I would expect to see in the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 04:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just so you both know, only Samuel's side of this conversation is reaching me via the list. Can I assume that William is using Yahoo and my Gmail account is throwing away his side, or is something else going on? Yes, he has a Yahoo email

Re: What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 20:18 +, Beartooth wrote: > Something on sourceforge has been recommended to me, but I try to > stick to things that dnf can install. Surely there must be some Fedora- > native ebook reader! Calibre is the go-to package for all your ebook needs, including format

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 12:23 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/14/2018 12:13 PM, Zachary Snyder wrote: > > Gotcha, well Im sorry to hear that. Might have saved the list from a > > second pointless email lol. > > Yes, but at least I trim the boilerplate off of the bottom before > replying, unlike

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 13:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/14/2018 12:58 PM, William Mattison wrote: > > Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the > > header (copied and pasted): [...] Just so you both know, only Samuel's side of this conversation is reaching me

Re: Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:20:07 - Raman Gupta wrote: > Running in the default NAT mode I always use the "bridge" networking. That way the KVM looks like just another machine on my local network, gets an IP from the DHCP on my router, etc. And I can delete the "default" network and turn off all

Re: Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-14 Thread Raman Gupta
> a) My guest DNS does not transparently work to access my LAN -- only the > Internet. The > docs @ https://libvirt.org/formatnetwork.html do not provide any guidance for > configuring > DNS settings. I want to forward requests to the dnsmasq running on the host > system. Oops, looks like this

Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-14 Thread Raman Gupta
For my Windows workloads on Linux, I've been paying VMWare for years for their Workstation product so I can run Windows programs like Visual Studio and Quicken. Recently, having some issues with my Windows VM (VMWare using massive amounts of memory and CPU beyond the VM allocation, and causing

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-14 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/14/2018 01:49 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 14/3/18 4:50 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> On 03/13/2018 01:19 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> It just seems counter intuitive to me to have to issue another >>> command (even if one knows of its existence) to get a command to >>> function

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
> The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you > view source do you see the message body? yes. In "View source", I see 759 lines of stuff. But most looks like "meta-data", not message body that I would expect to see in the Thunderbird window. The first blank line is

Re: Is there a way to get something into a Fedora How To list?

2018-03-14 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/14/2018 12:54 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > Hi All, > > This is my doing: > > https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/how-to-set-up-your-scanner-to-work-with-sane-and-pdf-studio-under-fedora-27-linuxs-systemd/ > > > I inquired over on the sane mailing list as to getting it into > their how to's but

Re: What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread stan
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:45:43 -0700 stan wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 20:18:08 + (UTC) > Beartooth wrote: > > > Something on sourceforge has been recommended to me, but I > > try to stick to things that dnf can install. Surely there

Re: Starting programs when no internet connection is available

2018-03-14 Thread ni . ls
On 03/14/2018 06:24 PM, stan wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:48:35 +0100 > Thoughts only, not sure if they are true. My suspicion is that they > are made aware of the connection from network manager as if it is > active, so try to access it, and then have to wait a period of time > until they

No network on first try

2018-03-14 Thread Martin Wagner
I've got a Fedora 27 desktop that has a slight network problem. I'm using VPN and I used nm-connection-editor to configure it so that the VPN activates when eno1 activates. That worked fine in Fedora 26. But after upgrade to Fedora 27 the network doesn't start properly at startup, instead after

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-14 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/3/18 4:50 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 03/13/2018 01:19 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: It just seems counter intuitive to me to have to issue another command (even if one knows of its existence) to get a command to function "properly". Having read this thread, I think you may still not

Re: What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread stan
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 20:18:08 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > Something on sourceforge has been recommended to me, but I > try to stick to things that dnf can install. Surely there must be > some Fedora- native ebook reader! package fbreader

Re: What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread Dr. Tibor Attila Anca
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 14.03.2018, 20:18 + schrieb Beartooth: > Fedora- > native ebook reader! > I always use calibre. It isn't just a reader, more a converter and a library manager. It may seem bloated, but I really like its features and abilities when it comes to handle different ebook

What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread Beartooth
Something on sourceforge has been recommended to me, but I try to stick to things that dnf can install. Surely there must be some Fedora- native ebook reader! -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 12:58 PM, William Mattison wrote: Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the header (copied and pasted): = Content-Length: 33542 = The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you view source do you see the message body?

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
Hi Samuel, Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the header (copied and pasted): = X-Apparently-To: mattison.compu...@yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:45:33 + Return-Path: Received-SPF: pass (domain of

Is there a way to get something into a Fedora How To list?

2018-03-14 Thread ToddAndMargo
Hi All, This is my doing: https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/how-to-set-up-your-scanner-to-work-with-sane-and-pdf-studio-under-fedora-27-linuxs-systemd/ I inquired over on the sane mailing list as to getting it into their how to's but they ignored me. Is there a place for it in some Fedora how to

Re: Starting programs when no internet connection is available

2018-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/14/2018 12:24 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: NetworkManager has a few different states of connected.  There are at least NETWORK_LOCAL which seems to mean it has an IP address and NETWORK_GLOBAL which means it has internet access.  There might another one in between as well. Considering that

Re: Starting programs when no internet connection is available

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 10:24 AM, stan wrote: A few months ago there was a discussion here about how network manager decides that a network connection is live before it has actually connected. I think it would be neat if network manager did a ping of a / the dns address associated with a connection

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/14/2018 12:13 PM, Zachary Snyder wrote: Gotcha, well Im sorry to hear that. Might have saved the list from a second pointless email lol. Yes, but at least I trim the boilerplate off of the bottom before replying, unlike most of you. ___ users

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Zachary Snyder
Gotcha, well Im sorry to hear that. Might have saved the list from a second pointless email lol. Github: https://github.com/Sadin | Pagure: https://pagure.io/user/sadin | Twitter: https://twitter.com/sadinzs | Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@sadinzs On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Joe Zeff

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/14/2018 11:53 AM, Zachary Snyder wrote: To be fair, in the next email, if you read it, he apologized and said that it was a mistake. Yes, but I read my email in the order received, no threading, and reply as I read. I've been doing that for about thirty years now, and have no interest

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Zachary Snyder
To be fair, in the next email, if you read it, he apologized and said that it was a mistake. Github: https://github.com/Sadin | Pagure: https://pagure.io/user/sadin | Twitter: https://twitter.com/sadinzs | Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@sadinzs On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Joe Zeff

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/14/2018 06:55 AM, Kenneth Marcy wrote: The obnoxious uglification trend has been going on since the second Dubya Bush term, both in cars and pickups.  You can see it clearly if you look at the generation photos in the brand nameplate articles in Wikipedia. Why are you sending this to

Re: sound problem

2018-03-14 Thread stan
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:36:33 +0100 François Patte wrote: > When I log-in, sound is deactivated and I have to manually start it, > doing: Are you sure sound is deactivated? Is it possible it is trying to use the digital output associated with your video

looking for nonlinear optimizer with constraints accessible from python

2018-03-14 Thread stan
I want to solve a small (a few hundred variables) nonlinear optimization problem with constraints in Fedora. I've found the scipy optimization routines, but they are for unconstrained problems. And there are the coin-or routines (ipopt, etc.), but they are not easily accessible from python.

Re: selinux question

2018-03-14 Thread François Patte
Le 14/03/2018 à 12:04, Kai Bojens a écrit : > On 14/03/2018 –– 11:42:47AM +0100, François Patte wrote: >> Le 14/03/2018 à 11:05, Kai Bojens a écrit : >>> sealert -a /var/log/audit/audit.log > >> Thank you for this answer, but I don't know what to do with the alert >> message: "I you think that

[SOLVED] Re: F27: Grub2 hosed; request rescue help

2018-03-14 Thread Max Pyziur
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, While doing an upgrade on a non-critical laptop, including a kernel upgrade, the machine froze. Rebooting brought information to the effect that no boot image was available. I've been trying to find, and also using different CDs to rescue

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 10:46 AM, William Mattison wrote: h I did a "View source" on the most recent empty-looking message. Everything is there. The whole thing is 742 lines long. You want the top how many lines? Or how would I recognize the end of the header? The end of the header is the

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
h I did a "View source" on the most recent empty-looking message. Everything is there. The whole thing is 742 lines long. You want the top how many lines? Or how would I recognize the end of the header? What displays in the header area (below the list of messages, above where the

F27: Grub2 hosed; request rescue help

2018-03-14 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, While doing an upgrade on a non-critical laptop, including a kernel upgrade, the machine froze. Rebooting brought information to the effect that no boot image was available. I've been trying to find, and also using different CDs to rescue the system. I have both an F27

Re: Starting programs when no internet connection is available

2018-03-14 Thread stan
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:48:35 +0100 ni...@posteo.de wrote: > Hello, > > I'm encountering a strange issue with my Fedora 27 Gnome installation. > I'm sometimes connected to a WiFi network without a working Internet > connection. When that's the case, some programs like Firefox, > Thunderbird or

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 03/14/2018 09:10 AM, William Mattison wrote: Since March 08, I've received 11 messages from this list that appear empty, including 2 so far today. I have received a few (less) not empty, none today and 3 yesterday. What's causing this problem, and how do I fix it? My e-mail client is

empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
Good morning, Since March 08, I've received 11 messages from this list that appear empty, including 2 so far today. I have received a few (less) not empty, none today and 3 yesterday. What's causing this problem, and how do I fix it? My e-mail client is Thunderbird 52.5.2. I will

Re: PHP SOAP error after upgrade

2018-03-14 Thread Chris Kottaridis
I found the problem. I run named as a caching only server and had to change nsswitch.conf's host line to look in dns instead of mdns4_minimal. I had changed this line: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname to hosts: files dns After the upgrade I have a new

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Kenneth Marcy
Fedora users: I apologize for paying insufficient attention to notice the flaky addition of the fedora list address to a private mailing list message. My lack of a mouse pad today is yielding erratic rodent-movement results, and I did not notice the random address addition. Cars and linux are

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Kenneth Marcy
On 03/13/2018 09:41 PM, Linda Frasier wrote: > Why are all the Japanese cars looking more and more like Transformers? The > only exception seems to be Nissan, which has suddenly discovered chrome. Ford > clearly has a young Japanese guy or a young American fan of Transformers on > its design

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-14 Thread Robert Nichols
On 03/13/2018 03:54 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/3/18 9:33 am, Robert Nichols wrote: Whenever you have questions like this, you should run "set -x" in the shell to see exactly how commands are being invoked. (Run "set +x" to turn that off again.) I'm not sure what the point of this

Starting programs when no internet connection is available

2018-03-14 Thread ni . ls
Hello, I'm encountering a strange issue with my Fedora 27 Gnome installation. I'm sometimes connected to a WiFi network without a working Internet connection. When that's the case, some programs like Firefox, Thunderbird or even LibreOffice take really long to start. As soon as I disable the

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-13 at 17:20 -0700, jdow wrote: > Hidden files or directories are hidden. What part of that are some people > missing. You have to tell the system to expose those "hidden" items for many > operations such as listing files, which this abuse of "du" is showing. The system has no

Re: selinux question

2018-03-14 Thread Kai Bojens
On 14/03/2018 –– 11:42:47AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > Le 14/03/2018 à 11:05, Kai Bojens a écrit : > > sealert -a /var/log/audit/audit.log > Thank you for this answer, but I don't know what to do with the alert > message: "I you think that mdadm should be allowed to access getattr..." There

Re: selinux question

2018-03-14 Thread François Patte
Le 14/03/2018 à 11:05, Kai Bojens a écrit : > sealert -a /var/log/audit/audit.log Thank you for this answer, but I don't know what to do with the alert message: "I you think that mdadm should be allowed to access getattr..." How can I think that I have absolutely no idea!!! Regards --

Re: selinux question

2018-03-14 Thread Kai Bojens
On 14/03/2018 –– 10:47:19AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > Why this alert? What should I do? sealert -a /var/log/audit/audit.log ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: selinux question

2018-03-14 Thread François Patte
Le 14/03/2018 à 10:53, Lukas Vrabec a écrit : > ausearch -m AVC -m USER_AVC -ts today time->Wed Mar 14 09:49:23 2018 type=AVC msg=audit(1521017363.092:103): avc: denied { unlink } for pid=1 comm="systemd" name="request" dev="dm-6" ino=393224 scontext=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0

Re: selinux question

2018-03-14 Thread Lukas Vrabec
On 03/14/2018 10:47 AM, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > I have some alerts from selinux, for instance: > > SELinux prevent mdadm to access getattr on file > /dev/shm/lttng-ust-wait-7-972 > > Why this alert? What should I do? > > This is not the only one, how to configure selinux to act in

selinux question

2018-03-14 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I have some alerts from selinux, for instance: SELinux prevent mdadm to access getattr on file /dev/shm/lttng-ust-wait-7-972 Why this alert? What should I do? This is not the only one, how to configure selinux to act in a "normal" way: leave regular processes to access what they need

sound problem

2018-03-14 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, When I log-in, sound is deactivated and I have to manually start it, doing: 1- killall -9 pulseaudio 2- start-pulseaudio-x11 3- open mixer go to "configation" tab and choose analogic stero duplex. What is wrong in my sound config and how to correct this. Thank you. -- François