Re: F27 to 28 Upgrade of Postgresql

2018-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/09/2018 07:00 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: I'm excited to see Postgresql 10.3 included with F28. Has anyone upgraded to 28 with an older version of Postgresql? Did the Postgresql do the upgrade or did you do a dump and restore of your databases? There is a postgresql-upgrade package that you

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/10/18 11:13, Doug wrote: > I have a number of computers, as well as two printers, at present, and it > drives me > crazy that dynamic ip assignment by the router uses the same address for more > than > one device! What is the make/model of your router supplying dynamic IP addresses?  Ever

Re: Dell laptop for Fedora (XPS 13 or Latitude 7490) or worthier alternatives?

2018-05-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Thanks! Great to see someone who has almost both of my two competitors: > For my use, the two are extremely similar.  I like the Latitude slightly > better, since I'd rather have actual buttons for the mouse.  I don't > like clicking trackpads.  Having some USB-A ports is useful, too.  Other

dynamic IP assignment (was: Re: need help with printer set-up.)

2018-05-09 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 9 May 2018, Doug sent: > (I have a number of computers, as well as two printers, at present, > and it drives me crazy that dynamic ip assignment by the router uses > the same address for more than one device!) It could be that your router only is able to assign a small numbe

Re: Dell laptop for Fedora (XPS 13 or Latitude 7490) or worthier alternatives?

2018-05-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/09/2018 07:49 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: The XPS13 has a slightly lower spec for the processor (maybe, because it appears to be of slightly earlier stock - 8550U versus 8650U) but the specs are fairly comparable. The resolution is no doubt better for the XPS13. This configuration will cost

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread Doug
On 05/09/2018 10:28 PM, home user via users wrote: I held off on trying what you said because I'm missing some of the info I need to try it. I did successfully delete the the HP printer from cups using the command you gave me. I have about 1140 HP ppd files! The question is which one is the

Re: qutebrowser fails with a certificate error in F28 - Seems that it is looking for linux-vdso.so.1 and not finding it in libnssckbi.so

2018-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/10/18 09:41, stan wrote: > So, I'm trying qutebrowser from the Fedora package, and it starts, but > can't reach the web. It has this error that it is unable to verify the > certificate, not only for this website, but for any website I try. > > [1853:1870:0509/180934.705609:ERROR:cert_verify_p

Dell laptop for Fedora (XPS 13 or Latitude 7490) or worthier alternatives?

2018-05-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I have two alternative Dell options (unless more suggestions come in re: what I should get). The employer's standard fare which entails: #1. High Performance, Daily Use 14” Laptop: Latitude 7490 Processor: Intel Core i7-8650U Memory: 16GB Storage: 512GB SSD Graphics Card: integrated Wirel

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread Doug
On 05/09/2018 10:04 PM, home user via users wrote: Well, actually, this new printer is an HP Color Laser Jet Pro M180nw, according to its box. The model is "HP ColorLaserJet MFP M178-M181 PCL 6". The HP web site says it's a member of the M180-181 series. Based on your post, I went to direct

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread home user via users
I held off on trying what you said because I'm missing some of the info I need to try it. I did successfully delete the the HP printer from cups using the command you gave me. I have about 1140 HP ppd files! The question is which one is the best one (there is no perfect match). I did a separ

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread home user via users
Well, actually, this new printer is an HP Color Laser Jet Pro M180nw, according to its box. The model is "HP ColorLaserJet MFP M178-M181 PCL 6". The HP web site says it's a member of the M180-181 series. Based on your post, I went to directory "/usr/share/ppd/HP/", did a simple "ls" and looke

F27 to 28 Upgrade of Postgresql

2018-05-09 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm excited to see Postgresql 10.3 included with F28. Has anyone upgraded to 28 with an older version of Postgresql? Did the Postgresql do the upgrade or did you do a dump and restore of your databases? Thanks in advance, Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps wi

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread JD
On 05/09/2018 06:24 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/09/2018 04:55 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 05/09/2018 04:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: From just that line, it looks like there is no data transferred at all. I've never understood what 100% of I/O ba

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread JD
On 05/09/2018 06:08 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:55:03 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: Right, so it's not actually transferring any data, it's just waiting on I/O for some reason. If it is a brand new just formatted ext4 system mounted for the first time, the system writes all the i

qutebrowser fails with a certificate error in F28 - Seems that it is looking for linux-vdso.so.1 and not finding it in libnssckbi.so

2018-05-09 Thread stan
So, I'm trying qutebrowser from the Fedora package, and it starts, but can't reach the web. It has this error that it is unable to verify the certificate, not only for this website, but for any website I try. [1853:1870:0509/180934.705609:ERROR:cert_verify_proc_nss.cc(902)] CERT_PKIXVerifyCert fo

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/09/2018 04:55 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/09/2018 04:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>>    From just that line, it looks like >>> there is no data transferred at all.  I've never understood what 100% of >>> I/O bandwidth means.  How is the maximum

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:55:03 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Right, so it's not actually transferring any data, it's just waiting on > I/O for some reason. If it is a brand new just formatted ext4 system mounted for the first time, the system writes all the initial journal data structures (or somethin

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/09/2018 04:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:   From just that line, it looks like there is no data transferred at all.  I've never understood what 100% of I/O bandwidth means.  How is the maximum calculated?  Or does it mean that out of all the data tra

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread JD
On 05/09/2018 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 05/09/2018 10:58 AM, JD wrote: 276 be/3 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8] What command produces this output? It comes from iotop. From just that line, it looks like

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/09/2018 10:58 AM, JD wrote: >>    276 be/3 root    0.00 B/s    0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8] > > What command produces this output? It comes from iotop. >  From just that line, it looks like > there is no data transferred at all.  I'

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/09/2018 10:58 AM, JD wrote:   276 be/3 root    0.00 B/s    0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8] What command produces this output? From just that line, it looks like there is no data transferred at all. I've never understood what 100% of I/O bandwidth means. How is the maximum

Re: offtopic -- cloud question digitalocean/scaleway

2018-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/09/2018 09:20 AM, bruce wrote: Off topic question. Has anyone used digitalocean and/or scaleway for cheap vm/instances?? I have used DO on a few occasions, most recently to do the video processing for a live video stream. I have also used it for some package building and website testin

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/09/18 23:40, home user via users wrote: > Occasionally, I have wanted to include an attachment (example: a screen > capture) in a posting to this list. But I thought that attachments were > forbidden and discarded! How did you do it? Yes, attachments and html mail are discouraged. http

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 03:15:07PM -, home user via users wrote: > I tried this: > - > bash.4[~]: ls -R /usr/share/cups/ | grep ".ppd" > foomatic-db-ppds For a different manufacturer, the Linux version of their "driver" lacked a ppd file. I downloaded the Windows or Mac driver package, ex

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/09/2018 07:58 AM, home user via users wrote: Here's what I get: - bash.1[~]: lsusb Bus 002 Device 005: ID 03f0:af2a Hewlett-Packard Bus 002 Device 004: ID 047d:1020 Kensington Expert Mouse Trackball Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046a:0010 Cherry GmbH SmartBoard XX44 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/09/2018 10:58 AM, JD wrote: >   276 be/3 root    0.00 B/s    0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8] > > When I booted, drive was clean!! > > All my current running processes (i.e. ones I started), are quiescent. > > Whith glitches like these, it makes a LOT more difficult to honetsly te

Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread JD
276 be/3 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8] When I booted, drive was clean!! All my current running processes (i.e. ones I started), are quiescent. Whith glitches like these, it makes a LOT more difficult to honetsly tell students why they should switch to Fedora, "

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Wed, 09 May 2018 15:15:07 - home user via users wrote: > I tried this: > - > bash.4[~]: ls -R /usr/share/cups/ | grep ".ppd" > foomatic-db-ppds > No hp ppd files. I thought hplib would include the needed ppd > files. Apparently not. It does, but under /usr/share/ppd/HP r

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/09/2018 08:40 AM, home user via users wrote: > I tried this. I got the same results as reported in my response to Erik. > > side question: > Occasionally, I have wanted to include an attachment (example: a screen > capture) in a posting to this list. But I thought that attachments were

offtopic -- cloud question digitalocean/scaleway

2018-05-09 Thread bruce
Hey list, Off topic question. Has anyone used digitalocean and/or scaleway for cheap vm/instances?? I'm curious to hear about differences/issues/etc.. I've seen information from different sites, but figured I'd post here as well. thanks! ___ users mai

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread home user via users
I tried this. I got the same results as reported in my response to Erik. side question: Occasionally, I have wanted to include an attachment (example: a screen capture) in a posting to this list. But I thought that attachments were forbidden and discarded! How did you do it? ___

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-05-09 Thread home user via users
(I posted this last night, but the posting seems to have gotten lost.) Last night, I submitted Mozilla bug #1460104 to address this issue. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedorapro

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread home user via users
I tried this: - bash.4[~]: ls -R /usr/share/cups/ | grep ".ppd" foomatic-db-ppds Xerox-WorkCentre-6015B-fr.ppd.gz Xerox-WorkCentre-6015B.ppd.gz Xerox-WorkCentre-6015N-fr.ppd.gz Xerox-WorkCentre-6015NI-fr.ppd.gz Xerox-WorkCentre-6015NI.ppd.gz Xerox-WorkCentre-6015N.ppd.gz /usr/share/cups/ppdc: a

Re: need help with printer set-up.

2018-05-09 Thread home user via users
Here's what I get: - bash.1[~]: lsusb Bus 002 Device 005: ID 03f0:af2a Hewlett-Packard Bus 002 Device 004: ID 047d:1020 Kensington Expert Mouse Trackball Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046a:0010 Cherry GmbH SmartBoard XX44 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 0

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-09 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 08:23:53PM -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > Generally when I am messing with usb drives I have used these 2 commands: > > grep Dirty /proc/meminfo (dirty is the amount of write buffers that > need to be flushed for all disks, most will usually be the disk that > was just copied