Re: Any recent progress toward Fedora support for Raspberry Pi 4?

On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 09:51 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 03:46:12PM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage via > users wrote: > > With 8 GB the Pi4 finally has enough memory to be a fairly > > satisfactory > > workstation. By "headless server" do I understand you to mean you > >

Re: Any recent progress toward Fedora support for Raspberry Pi 4?

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 03:46:12PM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > With 8 GB the Pi4 finally has enough memory to be a fairly satisfactory > workstation. By "headless server" do I understand you to mean you have > no desktop installed?  If so, I need more. I suggest following up

Re: Any recent progress toward Fedora support for Raspberry Pi 4?

On Mon, 2021-01-11 at 13:03 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > Probably worth following htis thread: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/a...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/BTCBRUNAFMUBM2NW23QH5NQ5IT3X6CN6/ > > I'm currently running the 4GB variant of the Raspberry Pi 4 with the >

Re: Any recent progress toward Fedora support for Raspberry Pi 4?

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:26:33AM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage via users wrote: > > I have a Pi4 with 8G of RAM sitting in the corner of my desk gathering > dust waiting for a chance to run Fedora/ARM64. Officially it's not > supported: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Raspb

Any recent progress toward Fedora support for Raspberry Pi 4?

I have a Pi4 with 8G of RAM sitting in the corner of my desk gathering dust waiting for a chance to run Fedora/ARM64. Officially it's not supported: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Raspberry_Pi#Supported_Hardware >From time to time I hear rumors of upstream efforts to bring the P

Re: system-upgrade F30->31 prompt oddness: phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' - Some Progress

People, On 2020-01-17 08:35, George N. White III wrote: Before bash got PS0 there was bash-preexec.sh [1]. If your system was upgraded serially from before PS0 came to bash this might be leftovers from bash-preexec.sh. Sounds plausible - and: On 2020-01-17 09:03, Samuel Sieb wrote: On

Re: system-upgrade F30->31 prompt oddness: phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' - Some Progress

On 1/16/20 2:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-01-17 06:03, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/16/20 1:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Oh, BTW, I have [egreshko@f31k ~]$ rpm -q setup setup-2.13.6-1.fc31.noarch And I know I've not altered /etc/bashrc and I get.. [egreshko@f31k ~]$ sha256sum /etc/bashrc d925e7ec

Re: system-upgrade F30->31 prompt oddness: phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' - Some Progress

On 2020-01-17 06:03, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 1/16/20 1:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Oh, BTW, I have >> >> [egreshko@f31k ~]$ rpm -q setup >> setup-2.13.6-1.fc31.noarch >> >> And I know I've not altered /etc/bashrc and I get.. >> >> [egreshko@f31k ~]$ sha256sum /etc/bashrc >> d925e7ec2fdd6861be5f3a6d

Re: system-upgrade F30->31 prompt oddness: phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' - Some Progress

On 1/16/20 1:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Oh, BTW, I have [egreshko@f31k ~]$ rpm -q setup setup-2.13.6-1.fc31.noarch And I know I've not altered /etc/bashrc and I get.. [egreshko@f31k ~]$ sha256sum /etc/bashrc d925e7ec2fdd6861be5f3a6d5a08a1ff13a10d23ebbb8d26717b1b75ca4f118f  /etc/bashrc You shoul

Re: system-upgrade F30->31 prompt oddness: phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' - Some Progress

On 2020-01-17 05:19, Philip Rhoades wrote: > - . /etc/bashrc -> prompt includes: > "phr009D777;preexecphr009C\u009D777;preexec\u009C" > > I eventually worked out that this string is PS0 - but PS0 does not get set in > /etc/bashrc as far as I can see . . I can work around the problem by > resetti

Re: system-upgrade F30->31 prompt oddness: phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' - Some Progress

On 2020-01-17 05:19, Philip Rhoades wrote: > - . /etc/bashrc -> prompt includes: > "phr009D777;preexecphr009C\u009D777;preexec\u009C" > > I eventually worked out that this string is PS0 - but PS0 does not get set in > /etc/bashrc as far as I can see . . I can work around the problem by > resetti

Re: system-upgrade F30->31 prompt oddness: phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' - Some Progress

On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 17:20, Philip Rhoades wrote: > People, > > > On 2020-01-07 19:23, Philip Rhoades wrote: > > People, > > > > I did a dnf system-upgrade and now I get this before the completion of > > each CLI command: > > > > [phr@phil ~]$ ls > > phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' > > .

Re: system-upgrade F30->31 prompt oddness: phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' - Some Progress

People, On 2020-01-07 19:23, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, I did a dnf system-upgrade and now I get this before the completion of each CLI command: [phr@phil ~]$ ls phr009D777;preexecphr009C',data=iris)' . . - before I start hacking around, has anyone else seen this? I narrowed the proble

Progress of sorts - Re: VLC stopped launching

The task manager app showed me the process number and let me kill vlc and then I was able to view another video. But this should not be needed. On 7/7/19 9:24 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I got it 'open media' option to browser for a file and supposedly to open an mp4, but nothing. top is sh

Progress - Re: How to increase maximum user cpu usage allowed on a multi core system?

On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 12:03:39 -0700 stan wrote: > But, when I run a compile job with -j6, in order to allow all six > cores to be used, it limits the total amount of usage to 100% of a > *single* core. Booting from a Knoppix live DVD works. All six cores are utilized during a kernel compile. W

Re: Restarting - Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 02.12.2014 22:45, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have made some headway on this printing problem. See below. > > On 11/14/2014 01:57 AM, poma wrote: >> On 13.11.2014 22:04, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> On 11/13/2014 10:40 AM, poma wrote: On 13.11.2014 19:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 1

Restarting - Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

I have made some headway on this printing problem. See below. On 11/14/2014 01:57 AM, poma wrote: On 13.11.2014 22:04, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/13/2014 10:40 AM, poma wrote: On 13.11.2014 19:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/13/2014 12:44 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:5

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 14.11.2014 13:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 11/14/2014 01:57 AM, poma wrote: >> On 13.11.2014 22:04, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> On 11/13/2014 10:40 AM, poma wrote: On 13.11.2014 19:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 11/13/2014 12:44 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-11-12 at

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/14/2014 04:05 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Thu, 2014-11-13 at 08:34 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: su -c 'cupsctl --debug-logging' Nope. Still no error_log. Still not, after running that command and then trying to print again? Is this Fedora 20? In Fedora 21, CUPS error logs are directed t

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/14/2014 01:57 AM, poma wrote: On 13.11.2014 22:04, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/13/2014 10:40 AM, poma wrote: On 13.11.2014 19:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/13/2014 12:44 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:51 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: No error_log, only an access_

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On Thu, 2014-11-13 at 08:34 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > su -c 'cupsctl --debug-logging' > > Nope. Still no error_log. Still not, after running that command and then trying to print again? Is this Fedora 20? In Fedora 21, CUPS error logs are directed to the systemd journal by default: ht

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 13.11.2014 22:04, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 11/13/2014 10:40 AM, poma wrote: >> On 13.11.2014 19:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> On 11/13/2014 12:44 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:51 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > No error_log, only an access_log Turn on verb

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/13/2014 10:40 AM, poma wrote: On 13.11.2014 19:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/13/2014 12:44 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:51 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: No error_log, only an access_log Turn on verbose logging: su -c 'cupsctl --debug-logging' Nope. Still no err

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 13.11.2014 19:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 11/13/2014 12:44 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:51 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> No error_log, only an access_log >> Turn on verbose logging: >> >> su -c 'cupsctl --debug-logging' > > Nope. Still no error_log. > > In acc

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/13/2014 12:44 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:51 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: No error_log, only an access_log Turn on verbose logging: su -c 'cupsctl --debug-logging' Nope. Still no error_log. In access_log I see: localhost - - [13/Nov/2014:13:23:49 -0500] "POST /p

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:51 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > No error_log, only an access_log Turn on verbose logging: su -c 'cupsctl --debug-logging' Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/12/2014 11:40 PM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:13 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Now why the 'Filter failed'? what 'simple' command line printing tools should I test with? The /var/log/cups/error_log file should tell you what went wrong. No error_log, only an access_log

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 23:13 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Now why the 'Filter failed'? what 'simple' command line printing tools > should I test with? The /var/log/cups/error_log file should tell you what went wrong. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message pa

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/12/2014 10:47 PM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 12:54 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: It is TerminalRoom-8610 that only shows in the web interface. That one isn't marked as 'shared', so remote views of the server won't see it. AH, that was the only difference I could see in the

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 12:54 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > It is TerminalRoom-8610 that only shows in the web interface. That one isn't marked as 'shared', so remote views of the server won't see it. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/13/14 09:37, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Ah. Interesting. Are only the two kept? Because both have my 2 printers > and first I created one via the web interface, changed it, then created the > second via system-config-printer remote and changed that. This implies > either only a .0 being

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/12/2014 02:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/13/14 06:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/12/2014 12:06 PM, poma wrote: On 12.11.2014 20:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: This is interesting. system-config-printer on my notebook does NOT show the printer I configured with CUPS via the http inter

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/13/14 06:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 11/12/2014 12:06 PM, poma wrote: >> On 12.11.2014 20:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >>> This is interesting. system-config-printer on my notebook does NOT show >>> the printer I configured with CUPS via the http interface. So I did >> ... >> >> >>

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 12.11.2014 23:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Interestingly there is /etc/cups/printers.conf and /etc/cups/printers.conf.0 > > Both define both printers that I can see with my notebook browser > pointed to port 631 on the server. But when I use system-config-printer > on my notebook to connec

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/12/2014 12:06 PM, poma wrote: On 12.11.2014 20:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: This is interesting. system-config-printer on my notebook does NOT show the printer I configured with CUPS via the http interface. So I did ... All your printers are here /etc/cups/printers.conf* Interestin

Re: Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 12.11.2014 20:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > This is interesting. system-config-printer on my notebook does NOT show > the printer I configured with CUPS via the http interface. So I did ... Dear Sir/Madam, All your printers are here /etc/cups/printers.conf* man 5 printers.conf -- user

Progress Re: Configuring a printer on a server without a GUI

On 11/11/2014 11:00 PM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 12:59 -1000, Robert Moskowitz wrote: One, I don't see Sever>Connect on my F20 gnome notebook. https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/system-config-printer.git/plain/data/screenshot-mainwindow.png You don't see that "Server" entry in the

Re: Notification Process Doesn't Show Progress

On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 15:39 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Stephen Morris > wrote: > > How do I get this app to show the real progress, instead of its currently > > functionality of only notifying when the process has actually completed? >

Re: Notification Process Doesn't Show Progress

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > How do I get this app to show the real progress, instead of its currently > functionality of only notifying when the process has actually completed? That sounds like a bug to me. You may file a bug at https://bugs.kde.org/enter_b

Notification Process Doesn't Show Progress

Whenever I use dolphin to copy files from directories on my harddisk to a mount, irrespective of whether that mount is a USB Stick or a network mount, the progress is displayed in the notification application sitting in the system tray. This notification application does not show an updating

Re: progress on virt-viewer for windows

Hi Fernando, Could you please not cross post this thread on the Fedora users's list. Only your messages get to the list, there is no way to follow the discussion. Also this seems completely off-topic on the users's list. Please read the mailing list guidelines. Thanks, -- Suvayu Open source i

Re: progress on virt-viewer for windows

Hi, My first tests using virsh from http://teuf.fedorapeople.org/virt-viewer-msi/ were based on the 64-bit (x86_64) binaries. I'll try the 32-bit binaries and report on the results. The 32-bit binaries needed the same DLLs (of course the 32-bit ones) and gave the same results: virsh works with

Re: [Spice-devel] progress on virt-viewer for windows

Hi Marc, C:\Program Files\VirtViewer\bin>virsh -c qemu+tcp://kvmhost/system error: failed to connect to the hypervisor error: authentication failed: unsupported authentication type 1 It looks like the windows port can't do SASL auth over TCP. So I changed libvirtd.conf to allow unauthenticated c

Re: progress on virt-viewer for windows

Hi, My first tests using virsh from http://teuf.fedorapeople.org/virt-viewer-msi/ were based on the 64-bit (x86_64) binaries. I'll try the 32-bit binaries and report on the results. After having success with a few comands using virsh, I decided to try virt-viewer. It reported missing libss

progress on virt-viewer for windows

Hi Christophe, If someone provides newer windows binaries -- which aren't missing dlls, like the ones at http://teuf.fedorapeople.org/virt-viewer-msi/ -- I will test then. I gave you links to RPMs containing the missing dlls (rpm2cpio foo.dll | cpio -id will unpack them on linux) in https://ww

Re: mysterious progress bar

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:59:11 -0500 Claude Jones wrote: > I'm on fully up-to-date F18 using KDE DE. Regularly, maybe every few > minutes, I get a rectangular progress indicator appearing on my screen. > It only appears for a moment. It has a little monitor icon on the left,

mysterious progress bar

I'm on fully up-to-date F18 using KDE DE. Regularly, maybe every few minutes, I get a rectangular progress indicator appearing on my screen. It only appears for a moment. It has a little monitor icon on the left, and vertical progress bars. It's about two-three inches wide and less t

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

Tim wrote: > Having said all that, I much prefer how another OS I used to work, > worked. Writes to drives were completely completed (file written to the > disc, plus the directory data updated) in one go, and you could pull a > disc out moments later. There was no mounting or unmounting. And >

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

On 07/20/2012 02:28 AM, Ian Malone wrote: This might be something that needs improved, if you don't notice or your device doesn't have a transfer light (some USB sticks might not and on other devices it's less obvious) then you could end up taking it out while data is still writing. It's not unco

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

On 20 July 2012 13:52, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 20.07.2012 11:28, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 20 July 2012 08:45, Shibi wrote: >>> File has been transferred to the disc caching, but the cache hasn't transferred to the media? >>> the copy dialog is destroyed as soon as transfer

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

On 20.07.2012 11:28, Ian Malone wrote: > On 20 July 2012 08:45, Shibi wrote: >> >>> File has been transferred to the disc caching, but the cache hasn't >>> transferred to the media? >>> >> the copy dialog is destroyed as soon as transfer to cache is being >> completed, but file transfer from cache

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

Shibi: >> the copy dialog is destroyed as soon as transfer to cache is being >> completed, but file transfer from cache to media is still going on while >> there is no indication of it on screen. Ian Malone: > This might be something that needs improved, if you don't notice or > your device doesn

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

On 20 July 2012 08:45, Shibi wrote: > > >> File has been transferred to the disc caching, but the cache hasn't >> transferred to the media? >> > the copy dialog is destroyed as soon as transfer to cache is being > completed, but file transfer from cache to media is still going on while > there is

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

File has been transferred to the disc caching, but the cache hasn't > transferred to the media? > > the copy dialog is destroyed as soon as transfer to cache is being completed, but file transfer from cache to media is still going on while there is no indication of it on screen. -- Shahab Shahs

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 09:01 -0430, Dokuro wrote: >> I made a similar observation, where the file being copied was not over >> but the progress bar disappeared, you could still notice activity on >> the USB drive and if unmounted a

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 09:01 -0430, Dokuro wrote: > I made a similar observation, where the file being copied was not over > but the progress bar disappeared, you could still notice activity on > the USB drive and if unmounted a dialog would show up, with no > progress bar, that there

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

I made a similar observation, where the file being copied was not over but the progress bar disappeared, you could still notice activity on the USB drive and if unmounted a dialog would show up, with no progress bar, that there where still jobs pending on the drive, this does not feel intuitive at

Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

Hi in F17 when I Try to copy files to my USB stick copy progress window destroys soon before copy completed (In external Hard drive it is not a problem because the copy progress is far less time consuming than usb flash drives), in F16 progress bar was showing complete copy but it wasn't

Re: Progress on getting my desktop working properly

On 12/18/2011 11:55 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Looking back at the amount of time and work you spent on it, wouldn't it have been easier to just backup&wipe&cleaninstall F16 instead? :-) Considering the amount of customization, the number of programs I'd have to reinstall and so on, maybe not

Re: Progress on getting my desktop working properly

On Sunday 18 December 2011 20:00:25 Joe Zeff wrote: > I've cleaned up all of the problems reported by package-cleanup. > Checking for dupes reported over 1400 duplicate packages; but telling it > to clean them hung the program. I've spent the last several days > hacking away at this, little by lit

Progress on getting my desktop working properly

I've cleaned up all of the problems reported by package-cleanup. Checking for dupes reported over 1400 duplicate packages; but telling it to clean them hung the program. I've spent the last several days hacking away at this, little by little until I got down to about 1025 or so, and tried agai

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 19:49 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 23:33 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > I went back through archives of my installs and found a sufficiently > > different factory-install of /etc/hosts that I wanted to post it for > > comment given your "bad idea to bodge (si

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 23:33 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I went back through archives of my installs and found a sufficiently > different factory-install of /etc/hosts that I wanted to post it for > comment given your "bad idea to bodge (sic?) anything else into those > two lines. I checked 3

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On 8/22/2011 9:51 PM, Tim wrote: > > Have a look at a virgin hosts file, and it'll be like this: > > cat /etc/hosts > # Do not remove the following line, or various programs > # that require network functionality will fail. > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > ::1localhost6.loca

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 14:31 +0930, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> No matter what anybody says, and despite the setup of Fedora doing > >> it, it's a bad bad BAD idea to bodge *anything* else into those two > >> local lines. Sure, you can get away with it under *some* > >> circumstances. But you can run i

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 21:52 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I am trying to do my homework but more importantly trying to > understand just what I need so I don't solve a problem that doesn't > need to be solved. I suppose it all depends on what you're trying to achieve. Do you need a mail serve

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

Tim: >> No matter what anybody says, and despite the setup of Fedora doing >> it, it's a bad bad BAD idea to bodge *anything* else into those two >> local lines. Sure, you can get away with it under *some* >> circumstances. But you can run into a hell of a lot of pain under >> other circumstances

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On 8/24/2011 7:26 PM, Craig White wrote: Craig: Thanks for the two emails (one in response to Tim). I am trying to do my homework but more importantly trying to understand just what I need so I don't solve a problem that doesn't need to be solved. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 14:21 +0930, Tim wrote: > Ugh, a test mail has come from 127.0.0.1. You've got machine names > resolving to 127.0.0.1. Name resolution is up the spout, and it *does* > strike problems with various servers, despite the number of people who > *apparently* get away with puttin

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 22:15 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 8/22/2011 9:51 PM, Tim wrote: > > Tim: > > Thanks for your two emails. I am stepping back, going through all the > email again, and rethinking what I am trying to do and the best way to > do it. This "little exercise" was much big

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On 8/22/2011 9:51 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: Thanks for your two emails. I am stepping back, going through all the email again, and rethinking what I am trying to do and the best way to do it. This "little exercise" was much bigger than I thought and I need to do alot of learning before I come up wit

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:41 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Here's the hint (above), whatever mail server you end up playing with. Look at the transcript of what you get back, and do some searching against the error/status codes, rather than jus

[ENDING THREAD] Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On 8/21/2011 9:44 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > I really don't have much interest in ploughing through all of your e-mails > and all of the answers you get which just confuse the whole situation. > > All you really need to do is set smarthost on all of the LAN machines - > all machines smartho

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:41 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I dug around online and found info regarding mail, port 25, and port > 587. Got a little better idea what all this is about and I decided to > try some permuations > > Though I didn't get any mail sent, I was able to get a failure mes

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

I dug around online and found info regarding mail, port 25, and port 587. Got a little better idea what all this is about and I decided to try some permuations Though I didn't get any mail sent, I was able to get a failure message back which is more info than I've seen before. In sendmail.mc,

Re: Progress and advice so far

On 08/20/2011 05:17 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > "which" is a shell alias in bash rather than a binary somewhere. Anyway > you can always use "find" but yes locate is a good tool. Actually, if you check, "which" is an alias that expands to a call to /bin/which with a set of switches that will give the m

Re: Progress and advice so far

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Larry Brower wrote: > On 08/20/2011 12:23 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 08/19/2011 09:56 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: >>> Evidently linux does >>> not have which and apropos is not extremely helpful. >> >> Yes it does.  Well, *my* computer has it and I don't remember doing

Re: Progress and advice so far

On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:20:08 +0200, RH (Reindl) wrote: > > > Am 20.08.2011 17:16, schrieb Michael Schwendt: > > On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:58:58 -0700, CW (Craig) wrote: > > > >> # rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/which > >> which-2.19-5.fc12.i686 > >> > >> # yum remove which > >> << snip >> > >> Remo

Re: Progress and advice so far

Am 20.08.2011 17:16, schrieb Michael Schwendt: > On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:58:58 -0700, CW (Craig) wrote: > >> # rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/which >> which-2.19-5.fc12.i686 >> >> # yum remove which >> << snip >> >> Remove 356 Package(s) >> >> Installed size: 2.1 G >> Is this ok [y/N]: n >> E

Re: Progress and advice so far

On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:58:58 -0700, CW (Craig) wrote: > # rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/which > which-2.19-5.fc12.i686 > > # yum remove which > << snip >> > Remove 356 Package(s) > > Installed size: 2.1 G > Is this ok [y/N]: n > Exiting on user Command > Complete! > > almost impossible to

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> 1) As soon as you get to a command prompt run updatedb. Evidently linux does > not have which and apropos is not extremely helpful. An example of why you > need locate: apparently the console fonts are in a (sub)directory called > kbd. You'd pass over that a hundred times before you would think

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On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 03:26 -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Tim wrote: > > > I think a language barrier came across in your message. Did you mean > > it's also not installing which and apropos commands? Or did you mean > > they're not useful until an updatedb has been run? > >

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2011/8/20, Lars Eighner : [...] > I've done 4 or 5 various installs today, and at least one of them did not > include 'which' - perhaps it was the minimal one. Apropos seemed to work in > all of them but was not very helpful. locate has been the most helpful so > far. If you know part of the na

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On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Tim wrote: > I think a language barrier came across in your message. Did you mean > it's also not installing which and apropos commands? Or did you mean > they're not useful until an updatedb has been run? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting differ

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On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 23:56 -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > 1) As soon as you get to a command prompt run updatedb. Evidently > linux does not have which and apropos is not extremely helpful. Updatedb was always run as a CRON job, not immediately after installations, nor updates. So if you don't wa

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On 08/20/2011 01:32 AM, Larry Brower wrote: > On 08/20/2011 12:23 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 08/19/2011 09:56 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: >>> Evidently linux does >>> not have which and apropos is not extremely helpful. > >> Yes it does. Well, *my* computer has it and I don't remember doing >> anythi

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/20/2011 12:23 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/19/2011 09:56 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: >> Evidently linux does >> not have which and apropos is not extremely helpful. > > Yes it does. Well, *my* computer has it and I don't remember doing > anything

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On 08/19/2011 09:56 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: > Evidently linux does > not have which and apropos is not extremely helpful. Yes it does. Well, *my* computer has it and I don't remember doing anything special to get it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change s

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Only making slight progress so far, but here are some hints for others who may come my way: 1) As soon as you get to a command prompt run updatedb. Evidently linux does not have which and apropos is not extremely helpful. An example of why you need locate: apparently the console fonts are in a

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ever, it does meet the needs of the target audience and that is what is the crux of the matter. We, the 'all knowing' want our Gnome2. Well we have to come up with a really good business case as to why. Otherwise, the developers are going to put a massive amount of energy into Gnome

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On 08/02/2011 08:15 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 8/1/11 11:46 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >[...] >> Constructive criticism and suggestions are far more useful than just >> enumerating grievances. > Amen said the choir. Bellyaching about something you cannot change is > not going to change it and migh

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On 3 August 2011 03:15, James McKenzie wrote: > On 8/1/11 11:46 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> As others have said the last two: >> * Give us back the assurance of never having to reboot. > This is a silly requirement.  There are always reasons to reboot.  What > you mean, from what I gather, is don't

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James McKenzie wrote: > On 8/1/11 11:46 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 1 August 2011 17:52, Stuart McGraw wrote: >>.. >> but none of those.) As others have said the last two: >> * Give us back the assurance of never having to reboot. > This is a silly requirement. There are always reasons to reboot.

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On 8/1/11 11:46 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 1 August 2011 17:52, Stuart McGraw wrote: >> On 08/01/2011 03:31 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 04:14, Gilboa >>> Davaramailto:gilb...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> ... Because if you were actually trying to be constructive,

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On 1 August 2011 17:52, Stuart McGraw wrote: > On 08/01/2011 03:31 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 04:14, Gilboa Davara > > wrote: >> >>     ... Because if you were actually trying to be constructive, oh man, you >>     chose the wrong way to do

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On 08/02/2011 04:44 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > On 8/1/2011 10:05 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 08/01/2011 09:52 AM, Stuart McGraw wrote: >>> If complaints were less suppressed here, maybe the situation >>> could even be turned into a positive...Fedora could perhaps >>> raise some funds by selling "I su

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On 8/1/2011 10:05 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/01/2011 09:52 AM, Stuart McGraw wrote: >> If complaints were less suppressed here, maybe the situation >> could even be turned into a positive...Fedora could perhaps >> raise some funds by selling "I survived Fedora-15 T-shirts". > > > I think it says

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On 08/01/2011 09:52 AM, Stuart McGraw wrote: > If complaints were less suppressed here, maybe the situation > could even be turned into a positive...Fedora could perhaps > raise some funds by selling "I survived Fedora-15 T-shirts". I think it says quite a bit about F 15 that such a shirt would

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On 08/01/2011 03:31 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 04:14, Gilboa Davara > wrote: > > ... Because if you were actually trying to be constructive, oh man, you > chose the wrong way to do it. > > > I always applaud civilized and well-arg

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On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 04:10:39PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/31/2011 03:59 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > Give us back the assurance of never having to reboot. > > Running F 14 and only rebooting for kernel updates: > > [joe@khorlia Desktop]$ uptime > 16:09:36 up 46 days, 23:29, 2 users

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